mikejenkins1 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 So they are doing work on the track already installed but why are the bucket trucks so far away from the track? Looks odd that they had to extend the arm so far out when they could have moved the vehicle so much closer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I said this before but no one responded... Do you think that they built the lift so close to Sling Shot so the lights reflect into the top of the lift like they do?(unless they installed a different light, but it looks like its slingshots light) I don't think it was intentional for the lighting from Slingshot, but I think there will be very minimal lighting, if any on the coaster itself. I think the lighting that we are seeing on night shots on the webcam were intentional so we would be able to see the coaster at night on the webcam only. I believe the ride is going to be a really intense ride at night. I can't wait to see what surprises are in store for the ride next year.(fog, tombstones etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Do you think that they built the lift so close to Sling Shot so the lights reflect into the top of the lift like they do?No, i think they built it where they did because it fit there the best. I'm sure Banshee will long outlast Sling Shot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonbackandbeastlover Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I hope the light only shines on the lift hill to match the az theme if they don't retheme but I hope the rest is dark(no lights at night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMaverick Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 They should light up the lift hill with black lights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 In other words, the left side. Both of my rides were on the right side. Unfortunately, it will be at least 2015 before I make it back up to Cedar Point to try the left side. Left side in the back row is stunning. The pull and forces through the inversions are stronger on that side IMO. To those who are worried about the clearance Banshee, rest easy. If you have been on Gatekeeper the seats are tilted pretty far back. This means that legs dangle but dangle above the true bottom of the train. The train will have plenty of clearance. Ill try and find a photo to illustrate what I am saying. I know this one is from X-Flight but its the same thing. Look at the feet of the people they are not below the support beam for the seat: As you can see (even though these aren't the best pictures) , very few people can have their feet dangle below the seats but if they do its only by 6-12 inches. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginmike Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 In other words, the left side. Both of my rides were on the right side. Unfortunately, it will be at least 2015 before I make it back up to Cedar Point to try the left side. Left side in the back row is stunning. The pull and forces through the inversions are stronger on that side IMO. To those who are worried about the clearance Banshee, rest easy. If you have been on Gatekeeper the seats are tilted pretty far back. This means that legs dangle but dangle above the true bottom of the train. The train will have plenty of clearance. Ill try and find a photo to illustrate what I am saying. I know this one is from X-Flight but its the same thing. Look at the feet of the people they are not below the support beam for the seat: As you can see (even though these aren't the best pictures) , very few people can have their feet dangle below the seats but if they do its only by 6-12 inches. You do realize Banshee is not the same design type as Gatekeeper or X-flight. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Seat design is very very farmiliar... I honestly think the only difference the trains will have is everything is above the rides. Everything below will probably be cookie cutter, which is smart for several reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginmike Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Picture from RCDB I would expect more like this much clearance (From Monster in France). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I expect it to be just a teeny bit lower than that in person, but we won't know for sure I bet until we're under it... Also was that picture taken during construction or something...that ride looks very very dingy. Also odd seeing no concrete poured to help take the ride pressure off of the steel studs & nuts and more on the support and footer...there's a nice gap there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginmike Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I agree a little lower too but the amount of clearance in previous photo, unless it is just the perspective of the photo, looked a little on the tight side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 In other words, the left side. Both of my rides were on the right side. Unfortunately, it will be at least 2015 before I make it back up to Cedar Point to try the left side. Left side in the back row is stunning. The pull and forces through the inversions are stronger on that side IMO.To those who are worried about the clearance Banshee, rest easy. If you have been on Gatekeeper the seats are tilted pretty far back. This means that legs dangle but dangle above the true bottom of the train. The train will have plenty of clearance. Ill try and find a photo to illustrate what I am saying.I know this one is from X-Flight but its the same thing. Look at the feet of the people they are not below the support beam for the seat:   As you can see (even though these aren't the best pictures) , very few people can have their feet dangle below the seats but if they do its only by 6-12 inches. You do realize Banshee is not the same design type as Gatekeeper or X-flight. Right?  Uh... yes I do. The seat design for Banshee is very similar to Gatekeeper and X-Flight. Look at the video above showing what the Banshee trains and compare it to the Raptor above and see what I am talking about.   The difference I am trying to point out is the trains should be shorter (in height) on Banshee than a traditional B&M invert. The reason why is because the seats are reclined which makes the rider's lower legs dangle but not past the bottom of the train. Notice the rider's feet on Raptor they dangle at least 6-12 inches below the train because of the non tilted seats. The tilted seats also mean the overall height of the train should be shorter because they are not up and down like traditional B&M's. The picture of Raptor above shows very long supports for the seats. (My guess, which could be wrong, is that the trains for Banshee will be about 1-2 feet shorter.) This means lower passes which you are seeing already during the ride design. Again I could be wrong but that is my view on the trains for the ride. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 We'll try and get a closer look Sunday, GOCC construction tour. It does look to me as though it needs a shovel, lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Liking at that area on the webcam, it looks like on side of those supports is taller than the other side. That tells me that the ground slopes there some. The low clearance picture may just be a case where perspective is creating an illusion of it being shorter than it really is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpSonofBeast Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Going to the park today Any specific pictures you guys want me to get while I'm there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 See if there are any other changes in the Flight Deck queue area? Pictures there would be interesting!Also, the view of the dive loop from the midway? Thanks 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 as usual, I can't tell what they've been working on today lol yesterday was the only day I was able to tell what they were working on and that's just because it was so obvious.... but looking at the webcam now I don't see anything different than when they stopped last night. Anyone mind filling me in on what's going on? I'm SO not observant enough to be able to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Going to the park today Any specific pictures you guys want me to get while I'm there? I would love to see a pic of the completed dive loop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^^ I believe they added a track segment coming out of the vertical loop, by that I mean they extended it, I am aware that there was track coming out of it yesterday also. In response to the clearance issue. I'm sure that B&M got the clearance right, I mean a massive 25 Million Dollar ride and they are like: "opps, my mistake" Come on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^^ I believe they added a track segment coming out of the vertical loop, by that I mean they extended it, I am aware that there was track coming out of it yesterday also. In response to the clearance issue. I'm sure that B&M got the clearance right, I mean a massive 25 Million Dollar ride and they are like: "opps, my mistake" Come on. There was once a $20 million ride called Son of Beast that stood on the very ground that most would consider it a major "oops." (Granted that was not B&M nor was the company's reputation near what B&M's reputation is at) If there is truly a clearance issue I'm sure they could clear some of the land with a shovel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginmike Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I am certain there will not be a clearance issue when completed. I just made a comment about how close it looked in a photo from earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpSonofBeast Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Going to the park today Any specific pictures you guys want me to get while I'm there? I would love to see a pic of the completed dive loop! I'll get a few pics of that then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 as usual, I can't tell what they've been working on today lol yesterday was the only day I was able to tell what they were working on and that's just because it was so obvious.... but looking at the webcam now I don't see anything different than when they stopped last night. Anyone mind filling me in on what's going on? I'm SO not observant enough to be able to tell Not much "visual" progress today. I think they were just going around rechecking the bolts. Maybe re-torquing or marking them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^^ I believe they added a track segment coming out of the vertical loop, by that I mean they extended it, I am aware that there was track coming out of it yesterday also. In response to the clearance issue. I'm sure that B&M got the clearance right, I mean a massive 25 Million Dollar ride and they are like: "opps, my mistake" Come on. yeah that's what I thought, too. It looked like there was another piece of track there. I'd have to look at the screenshot I took yesterday to see... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 hmm... nope doesn't look that way. Oh well given how much they got done yesterday, and how cold it has been getting at night, they probably figured it was best not to start anything new and noteworthy today, but rather just double-check what's been done so far, like David said. I'd have to check previous Friday updates but IIRC, Fridays have never been huge progress days. I don't think there's a whole lot more track they can add for the dive loop until they get the outside loop supports up, and I believe I heard someone say that because of the angle those supports will be at, track has to be added and secured to the posts very quick in order for them to be very stable. I know nothing about construction though, let alone roller coaster construction, so I don't know how accurate that is Makes sense to me, but like I said, I don't know anything about roller coaster construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^^ I believe they added a track segment coming out of the vertical loop, by that I mean they extended it, I am aware that there was track coming out of it yesterday also. In response to the clearance issue. I'm sure that B&M got the clearance right, I mean a massive 25 Million Dollar ride and they are like: "opps, my mistake" Come on. ...and Maverick. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^ This is a first. Terp's using CoasterBuzz memes. Not that I mind. I just had to point it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 No. It's not a first. I've been known to putz around. And...Maverick did have an Oopsie. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Posted on the KIC Facebook page: Caption: "Insert loop here." 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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