I just like how King's Island first zero-g roll is coming together.

Where are Afterburn and Alpengeist located? Besides "Not Kings Island" "Not Cedar Point" and "Other parks"

For future reference, use "rcdb.com"

Just search the name of the ride.

And Carowins and Busch Gardens

I know all about RCDB, and if I was home and had a laptop with a screen that didn't have a broken front and back bezel (plastic casing) and would actually stay up I would have done that. iPhone + Sprint with very VERY spotty 4G LTE that's still in testing mode = fail and major headache I try to avoid getting on the actual internet on my phone when I'm not connected to wi-fi because it's slow and frustrating. I will have to see if they have an app.

^ You could always text your brother.

^ touché! -does that-

I need to carry two phones...one for crosschecking info.

Looks like the orange and cream crane is working on the dive loop.

that is just a man lift. likely just torquing the bolts.

surprised to see Clifford is still standing. No noticeable changes at the site yet, or at least not that I can tell.

They have the large yellow man lift bucket hooked to Clifford right now working at the top of the lift hill. Putting the chain in maybe?

In the meantime they are building the small crane in the valley. Doubt we will see any supports or track put up until that one is built.

Sounds crazy that you can go upside down 28 times next year if you ride all the coasters.
Looks like there --- ^^ I was beaten mid-post.

Where are Afterburn and Alpengeist located? Besides "Not Kings Island" "Not Cedar Point" and "Other parks"

Afterburn is at Carowinds and Alpengeist is at Busch Gardends Williamsburg

i stand corrected about the supports. guess i never paid attention to the rides except Banshee.

Sounds crazy that you can go upside down 28 times next year if you ride all the coasters.

Looks like there --- ^^ I was beaten mid-post.

I could only count 27 loops. What was your count?

looks like CJ is alive

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I see Clifford Junior down in the valley now!

Sounds crazy that you can go upside down 28 times next year if you ride all the coasters.

Looks like there --- ^^ I was beaten mid-post.

I could only count 27 loops. What was your count?

6 - Invertigo

7 - Banshee

4 - FoF

6 - Vortex

5 - Firehawk

I got 28 also

6-Invertigo

6-Vortex

4-FoF

5-Firehawk

7-Banshee

For a total of 28 (looks like I got beat to the punch lol)

Sounds crazy that you can go upside down 28 times next year if you ride all the coasters.

Looks like there --- ^^ I was beaten mid-post.

I could only count 27 loops. What was your count?

Probably Firehawk. Lots of debate on how many inversions it actually has.

Yeah the lay to fly elements are tricky! It's like every two counts as an inversion. The second one being the conclusion of an inversion.

RCDB has us for 25, but they only give Invertigo 3 inversions so......................

Yeah, it was Firehawk. It is really confusing.haha

I think baby Clifford is grown up now. Appears to be bending over to work today.

Call me crazy, but the new crane didnt look too much smaller than Clifford.

Also, the new one is currently laying flat on the ground

RCDB has us for 25, but they only give Invertigo 3 inversions so......................

Yeah 3 ONE way lol silly RCDB people.

Firehawk I count an inversion from going 180* and back to the original laying down position. Much like an inversion anywhere else will have you go inverted and back to the default orientation. So that brings us to 5.

And Invertigo has 3 inverting elements, but the ride will throw you upside down 6 times. so... idk.

This is a debate when counting inversions on 4D coasters as well (like X2). If we're going by how the track inverts, it only has 3, but add in the times the rider is physically upside down with the spinning and it adds up to the double digits. Eejanaika, a 4D in Japan, has 14 inversions if you count the seat flips.

I would say the number of times a rider goes upside-down. Same basic perspective for my number of 6 for Invertigo.

Firehawk I count an inversion from going 180* and back to the original laying down position. Much like an inversion anywhere else will have you go inverted and back to the default orientation. So that brings us to 5.

And Invertigo has 3 inverting elements, but the ride will throw you upside down 6 times. so... idk.

This reminds me of a question I've had.

RCDB lists The Great Pumpkin Coaster as 199 feet. If you only went around the track 1 time, would you travel 199 feet or 99.5 feet? Feels like 199 is the right answer

Same question with Invertigo

RCDB lists it as 1,013.8 feet. If it were possible to start at the top, go to the other side thru the course, then hop off, would you have travelled 1,103.8 feet, or 551.9 feet? or perhaps they could even count the first lift hill more than once since you go up, come down and thru the course and on the way back you go up again and back down to the station.