^ There was a threat of storms yesterday, though apparently none hit Sandusky. On my previous trip in July, they were transferring off trains well in advance of the storms.

On Wednesday, everything at CP except Gemini had all the trains running. Unfortunately, they chained off cars 3 and 4 of Corkscrew around 5:00pm.

I personally see nothing wrong with The Voyage. Is it tearing up the track? I am not sure??

Is it a smooth coaster? NOPE!! That is the ride style that I like from time to time.

That is why I would love to see a major steel coaster at Holiday World, so I can get a break between the wooden coasters at the park.

Changing the trains isn't going to keep it from tearing it's self apart...wooden coasters cost more to maintain cause you never stop building them.

To better days for Holiday world:

I can see them charging for parking next year to increase revenue...

I can see them charging for parking next year to increase revenue...

Free drinks, sunscreen, and parking are a major part of the park's marketing. It would be extremely difficult to eliminate them, no matter how much management wants to pinch pennies.

Running one train reminds me how Cedar Point cut the third train for millennium force and Gatekeeper the other day, is like they want the lines to be an hour wait... My thought was because they are trying to keep in the park longer which is smart business thinking but screwed up if your the one standing in line.

Either:

A. Maint. issues

B. It's more inefficient to run three trains, as they would be loading and checking/unlocking empty restraints.

C. Both of above

D. Told by park op to go to two train op

They don't do it on purpose to make lines long, we actually do our best to knock out the lines..just saying

Yes, but...THIS is a Holiday World thread.

Things there are very different now than they once were. Regardless of what happens next, a return to past ways of management is extremely unlikely.

Terp, who having nearly said too much, will now stand pat.

Why the hate for Voyage, it's not re-rideable. I've ridden numerous wooden coasters and coasters in general. Voyage...I can only ride at most twice in a row before I have to go do something else or sit down without feeling ill.

That's why there is the hate and for what I understand a portion of why Timberliners were being tested.

I'm not saying this would happen but if Cedar Fair were to take over Holiday World then I think we could all say goodbye to the free parking, free soda, free sunscreen, and DEFINITELY free lockers on the Raven, Legend, and Voyage.

I'm not saying this would happen but if Cedar Fair were to take over Holiday World then I think we could all say goodbye to free parking, free soda, free sunscreen, and DEFINITELY free lockers on the Raven, Legend, and Voyage.

i don't think so, its not dick kenzel anymore running Cedar Fairs. Matt Ouimet stated each park was its own brand, the things you see now at holiday world would probably be the same, except more capital being invested into the park, and great ideas from the other Cedar Fair parks transferring over.

What great ideas would those be that wouldn't forever change the character of Holiday World? Funtime said it wasn't going to dramatically change Geauga Lake.

What great ideas would those be that wouldn't forever change the character of Holiday World? Funtime said it wasn't going to dramatically change Geauga Lake.

I thought GL had the same character throughout the Funtime ownership, and Premier/Six Flags ruined it?

Those in charge of Flagging Geauga largely came from Funtime.

Well I am glad to hear HW is not selling the new train...One less crazy business decision I have to worry about with them. I do hope the Koch's can get things settled and get back to business as usual. Will must be spinning in his grave over this.

I was just there on Wednesday and Thursday. The Millennium Force line was just as short on Thursday.

I was just there on Wednesday and Thursday. The Millennium Force line was just as short on Thursday.

No wonder. This a Holiday World thread. I'd not expect a Millennium Force line to be very long at Holiday World!

lol... I feel like an airhead now. I was trying to quote Tr0y.

One thing to keep in mind about the freebies at Holiday World. Beech Bend also has free parking/soft drinks/sunscreen, though I believe they do it because of Holiday World. It would be great marketing for them if HW stopped the freebies, even though HW and BB are much different parks.

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Holiday World really needs a Hyper woodie in 2014. But the chances of that are 1.1

Holiday World doesn't even know who will own, manage, control or direct it next year. That's all in litigation presently.

Just hand it over to Cedar Fair...

Crazy for such a great park

Just hand it over to Cedar Fair...

I'm sure the current majority owner would be happy to do so for the right price.

After all, this is all about what is, for that family, a relatively small amount of money. The legal fees are probably approaching the amount in controversy.

The Koch family had refused to sell, time and again, despite very lucrative offers, back in the Premier Parks\Six Flags overexpansion days. Pat would be even more heartbroken.

Poor estate planning contributed to this situation.

A sale is looking more and more likely.

Just hand it over to Cedar Fair...

Please don't.

I must admit the idea of Six Flags Holiday World competing with Ed Hart's New Kentucky Kingdom is rather amusing.

They could even have a section called Bluegrass Boardwalk!

I believe if CF was to get HW it would almost immediately be put down. Perhaps a Water Park only......if it was lucky.

If it were to stay open, the freebies would disappear first. Followed by its small park charm.

I believe the new Six Flags would be a better fit.

See The Great Escape...

If the park's going to be part of some major park chain, I don't know that I wouldn't prefer Herschend, or even Parques Reunidos. Of course, I haven't been to The Great Escape, so I don't know how well Six Flags does with that park. Just not Cedar Fair, please. Not that I think they're willing to go further into debt to acquire Holiday World, anyway.

The day I see a giant Snickers banner hanging from Voyage will be the day I stop going to Holiday World.

Please, no SIX.