SingleRiderAfter1 Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I GOT IT! RMC Adventure Express. But seriously it would be neat, not that AE is a bad ride or a rough ride but it could be a fun improvement. Or just keep the original layout, add topper track, and extend the coaster. like a family beast. Maybe if it goes well keep adding on to it with expansions every so many years. Trust me there is a ton of unused land that way, with some good hills. They could have a very fun coaster an never have to build very far off the ground. That means cheaper to build...so more expansions 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Adventure Express is not a wood coaster and not a candidate for Topper track. 3 Quote
KI Guy Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Build a woodie up from scratch, #normcHow would the park do it?1. Design and build in house. 2. Outside designer and build in house. 3. Outside designer and outside builder Side note: Would GCI ever approve of running Millennium Flyers on a ride they didn't build or design? 2 Quote
KI Guy Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 They could probably even lessen the brakes on The Beast since those trains are articulated if they so desired. It might be like those legendary wet brakes rides I've heard about. 4 Quote
SingleRiderAfter1 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Adventure Express is not a wood coaster and not a candidate for Topper track. No it's not a wood coaster, it's a hybrid. I was just thinking a new track altogether would improve the ride experience. So Topper track, and add wood under that, or I-Box track. I just like the look of topper track over I-box, at least for Adventure Express. Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Terp is going to sit here, box of popcorn in hand, be good, and..., INCOMING: 4 Quote
WindingSon Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Adventure Express does not roll on wood track, and therefore is not a wood coaster. It's a steel coaster with wood supports. Just like Gemini and other coasters just like it. You probably could rehab Adventure Express in certain ways, but it'd probably be better to just replace it altogether if you're going to go that route, since that's basically what you'd be doing anyway. It's the same conversation as Vortex. Anything you could do to "fix" it (outside of replacing trains) is basically replacing it with something new entirely. And yes, the RMC "hybrids" are steel. I think many call them hybrids just because most are conversions of old wood coasters. The concept of steel track on wood supports however, is very old. 7 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 As is the concept of wood track on steel supports. See The Coney Island Cyclone, Cyclone at Crystal Beach..... 6 Quote
TheCandyManCan Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 RMC just needs to stay away, or invest in traditional wooden coasters again. I get the whole Iron Horse is their flagship product currently, but I'm tired of seeing them already. It's like the flying coaster phase of a few years ago. Practically everyone wanted one, then they died off. 7 Quote
marth555 Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Im curious as to if you have ridden an RMC? because everything ive heard from people that have has been positive Oh and if there ever was a ''flying coaster phase'' it was over a decade ago 1 Quote
TheCandyManCan Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 There are plenty of flyers across the world, they definitely had a stride. Also the enthusiast community was desperate for it everywhere too. I remember Pointbuzz blowing up several times during the announcement phase of the year speculating on a flyer. I've ridden quite a few RMCs. They're good, but again, I will always take a traditional wooden coaster if it was a traditional first. The Iron Horse deal is botched to me. Take Colossus, it's very sad to see something like it go. Plus again, I'm nostalgia driven for sure when it comes to rides, especially coasters. 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Colossus went years ago. So did the Riverside Cyclone. And The Texas Giant. It's claiming that SFGAm Goliath is a wood coaster that pains me. Heck, as badly as the Georgia Cyclone is running this year or the Great Escape's Comet was last, bring on RMC and be done with it. Steel, they wouldn't be wood no more. 1 Quote
Skylab Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I haven't ridden Georgia Cyclone in ten years. Is it as bad as I remember? 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 It WAS, for many years, my favorite wood coaster. Early this season, it was lethargic, rough, and shuffling. I nearly cried. Out of pain or sadness, I'm still not quite sure which. Fortunately, less than a week later, I rode Rampage.... 1 Quote
KI Guy Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Colossus went years ago. So did the Riverside Cyclone. And The Texas Giant. It's claiming that SFGAm Goliath is a wood coaster that pains me. Heck, as badly as the Georgia Cyclone is running this year or the Great Escape's Comet was last, bring on RMC and be done with it. Steel, they wouldn't be wood no more. It's funny, a certain person on a certain site actually threatened to ban people for disagreeing that Outlaw Run was a wooden coaster. I'm sure you know the donkey's rear of whom I'm speaking. 6 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I think Jeff Gramke said it best at Coasterstock. To paraphrashe: Wood coasters are actually steel coasters and steel coasters (as traditionally defined) are actually plastic coasters. 4 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 That may be one of the few things that man has ever said that I agree with. 4 Quote
KI Guy Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I think Jeff Gramke said it best at Coasterstock. To paraphrashe: Wood coasters are actually steel coasters and steel coasters (as traditionally defined) are actually plastic coasters.Are you referring to the wheels of the trains? 2 Quote
westcoaster Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 When will a park build a traditional classic wooden coaster again ? 3 Quote
KI Guy Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 I'm confident it will happen eventually. Wooden coasters are quite popular at Kings Island and have been a proud Cincinnati tradition for decades. Also, Holiday World is showing them up on that front... whoah! 1 Quote
homestar92 Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 Adventure Express is not a wood coaster and not a candidate for Topper track. Since this is a thread about RMC, I hardly think we need to worry about what does and doesn't count as a wooden coaster. They've established with Goliath, Outlaw Run, and now Lightning Rod that they don't worry with such details. Just call it what you want, apparently that's how coasters are classified these days anyway. 3 Quote
CoasterFan3180 Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 If Kings Island were to recieve an RMC, they'd most likely build a new one from scratch, but if I had to choose a woodie to get RMC'd, I'd choose Racer. I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a big fan of Racer. The only problem is, I'm not so sure RMC could do a lot with Racer because it has a fairly linear layout. 1 Quote
calakapepe Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 The old SOB supports could be used in the addition of a new RMC coaster Save some serious bucks! Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 Huh? If you mean footings, each and every one was removed. And RMC would not want any associated liability from that coaster. No one would. 4 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Huh? If you mean footings, each and every one was removed. I'd wager that there are footings holding up the station. 4 Quote
calakapepe Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Huh? If you mean footings, each and every one was removed. And RMC would not want any associated liability from that coaster. No one would. I was referring to the very small amount of SOB track and supports that still remain. (As a sarcastic suggestion) -I take it that no one caught on that I wasn't serious Quote
CoasterOhio Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 If I had to actually pick. I would honestly go with The Racers. I think It would be a cool RMC coaster. Quote
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