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What would you change about the All Season Dining Plan for next year?

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No one can deny that the All Season Dining Plan is a great deal for anyone who visits the park regularly.  However, with any new concept there are a few things to work out.  My question to you is: what would you do to improve the All Season Dining Plan for 2016?  Would you change the price?  The offerings?  The time frame?  This is just an open ended question for fun.

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I think the price for what is offered is a nice balance.  I wouldnt mind paying a little less to do a meal and snack plan or a little more for 2 meals and a snack plan.  

 

I thought the 4 hours would be bad this year but it really isnt.  I can go around 2/3 eat then grab a bite on the way out of the park around 7/8 or so.  

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I like the idea of the of having the two meals. But it would be nice if you had more meal options like Cedar Point. They offer a large soft pretzel and a fruit cup as a meal. If they keep the snack buckets then I don't think snacks are needed. But maybe more options for sides besides fries, like a side salad (which are offered at cp).

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Perhaps offer an upcharge version that allows purchasers to have discounted drinks - on par with normal restaurant prices (between $1 and $2).

 

I doubt it would happen though, as the profit margin on soda is ENORMOUS. At the current rate of ~$4 a drinnk, if a dining plan holder gets a soda with their meal, then the park has likely come out ahead on that particular meal even with the dining plan. On the other hand, even at $1, the park would make money on the drinks and would be considerably more likely to get some cashflow from dining plan holders.

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I think the price is a good value and the timing is about right to help offset potential abuse - would be willing to pay a little more if that meant more consistent food quality and faster lines.  I would also like to see more healthier options - not that they have to add to the places, but if a place serves a salad meal, allow that to be the meal.  Last year you could get the bigger salad at LaRosa's instead of the two slices of pizza and this year you can't.

 

I would also like to see the option to replace a meal with a snack - there are times when you just don't want another full meal and I don't really like to get a meal and not finish it either.

 

If the unlimited drink option being offered for 2016 at CP is available at KI, I think the lines will get even incredibly longer as the drink station will become yet another bottleneck in the chain of getting food, especially with all the line cutters that you frequently see jump the food line and go to the drink station and thus delaying people actually getting food from then moving to the drink station.  I have seen times where the line cutter line is longer than the people getting food - I was once in the chicken shack and was the only one at the food line and while my food was being handed to me, a group of 8 came in and jumped ahead of me to the drink station and then a group came in to get food and it log-jammed the entire line.  KI will never do this as they seem to have trouble enforcing policies already in place, but with an unlimited free refill option, they really need to consider having stand-alone drink stations in the park and not allow folks to fill drinks in the food stands unless they are getting food also.

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I think the price is a good value and the timing is about right to help offset potential abuse - would be willing to pay a little more if that meant more consistent food quality and faster lines.  I would also like to see more healthier options - not that they have to add to the places, but if a place serves a salad meal, allow that to be the meal.  Last year you could get the bigger salad at LaRosa's instead of the two slices of pizza and this year you can't.

 

I would also like to see the option to replace a meal with a snack - there are times when you just don't want another full meal and I don't really like to get a meal and not finish it either.

 

If the unlimited drink option being offered for 2016 at CP is available at KI, I think the lines will get even incredibly longer as the drink station will become yet another bottleneck in the chain of getting food, especially with all the line cutters that you frequently see jump the food line and go to the drink station and thus delaying people actually getting food from then moving to the drink station.  I have seen times where the line cutter line is longer than the people getting food - I was once in the chicken shack and was the only one at the food line and while my food was being handed to me, a group of 8 came in and jumped ahead of me to the drink station and then a group came in to get food and it log-jammed the entire line.  KI will never do this as they seem to have trouble enforcing policies already in place, but with an unlimited free refill option, they really need to consider having stand-alone drink stations in the park and not allow folks to fill drinks in the food stands unless they are getting food also.

I would be willing to pay $30 to get $.99 drinks just scanned off my season pass.  Anyone thoughts on that?

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The park is better off fixing the woes in service and quality with food concessions than making changes to the dining plans. I likeMagenta Lizard's idea with substituting a meal and getting a snack instead. But it's not going to matter next year when your handed an over cooked pretzel your trying to soften up with cold cheese dip after 20 minutes being inline between getting the pretzel and actually paying for it. ( happens a lot at Larosa's in the festhaus)

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My family has visited the park a handful of times this year, maybe 2 or 3 more times before the end of the year. We don't have the plan because it seemed too expensive for no more than we were going to be in the park.  If we could get free drinks or 99 cent drinks, I'd buy the pass without a second thought.

 

Not sure why that makes it so much more appealing to me, but it does.

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I thought KI advertised for next year a season long drink cup?

Also not sure it's line cutting when you walk in to purchase a drink but not food so you do not stand in the food line...

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CP is offering an unlimited free refill cup for 2016 for $22.99 - but you have to carry around the cup.  I think many would probably purchase the BoddaH1994 idea of put $30 on season pass and debit off .99 cent drinks in cup to avoid having to carry around a cup.

 

Regarding cutting in line to bypass the food and get to drink station - several places have a queue line - Chicken Shack, Skyline and LaRosa's on IS, FestHaus, etc., and informal lines form at many of the others (pretzel place, etc.) and I see EVERY time I get food someone (usually more than one), come through exit and form another line just for drinks.  Last I checked, you can't skip people in line at a drive-through cause you are just getting a drink, or go inside a fastfood place and jump past the line in there just cause you want a drink only, yet it is an everyday occurrence at KI.  Watch at FestHaus and you will see groups simply walk in between the two sets of cash registers on either side and form a line of just people getting drinks, yet their is a queue line with people coming through - if this isn't line cutting, then who gets priority at the drink station when someone with food and someone that entered through the exit reach the drink station at the same time?

 

My solution is to simply quit getting a drink and when the cashier asks me if I would like to buy a souvenir cup, I point to the long line of people that just walked past him/her through the exit and said until that problem is fixed I will not be getting a drink.  I waited long enough for the food, not going to wait double to get a drink on top of it.

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I thought KI advertised for next year a season long drink cup?

Also not sure it's line cutting when you walk in to purchase a drink but not food so you do not stand in the food line...

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CP is offering an unlimited free refill cup for 2016 for $22.99 - but you have to carry around the cup.  I think many would probably purchase the BoddaH1994 idea of put $30 on season pass and debit off .99 cent drinks in cup to avoid having to carry around a cup.

 

Regarding cutting in line to bypass the food and get to drink station - several places have a queue line - Chicken Shack, Skyline and LaRosa's on IS, FestHaus, etc., and informal lines form at many of the others (pretzel place, etc.) and I see EVERY time I get food someone (usually more than one), come through exit and form another line just for drinks.  Last I checked, you can't skip people in line at a drive-through cause you are just getting a drink, or go inside a fastfood place and jump past the line in there just cause you want a drink only, yet it is an everyday occurrence at KI.  Watch at FestHaus and you will see groups simply walk in between the two sets of cash registers on either side and form a line of just people getting drinks, yet their is a queue line with people coming through - if this isn't line cutting, then who gets priority at the drink station when someone with food and someone that entered through the exit reach the drink station at the same time?

 

My solution is to simply quit getting a drink and when the cashier asks me if I would like to buy a souvenir cup, I point to the long line of people that just walked past him/her through the exit and said until that problem is fixed I will not be getting a drink.  I waited long enough for the food, not going to wait double to get a drink on top of it.

 

 

I wouldn't want a debit system - I'd rather just pay for the drinks with a discount than give someone money to hold for me so I can use it elsewhere. Also, the park may not want to get into the debit business. That, in a way, makes them a bank and could lead to an entirely different set of laws and regulations to deal with, which raises operating cost, which raises our cost.

 

I'd want something more like the meal plan - I pay a flat fee and get free (or very deeply discounted) drinks whenever I want. Of course, there would need to be a wait time between drinks etc or it wouldn't be economical for the park to offer this, but that's beyond me to figure out.

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Somehow, I felt a little guilty for having pulled off $244 worth of meals for $100, then I realized that this plan is kind of like paying $100 for a season-long buffet with well-thought-out parameters, that isn't 'all-you-can-eat.' Only someone who has the tenacity to 'live' at an amusement park could really 'crush' the plan.

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I think the price is a good value and the timing is about right to help offset potential abuse - would be willing to pay a little more if that meant more consistent food quality and faster lines.  I would also like to see more healthier options - not that they have to add to the places, but if a place serves a salad meal, allow that to be the meal.  Last year you could get the bigger salad at LaRosa's instead of the two slices of pizza and this year you can't.

 

I would also like to see the option to replace a meal with a snack - there are times when you just don't want another full meal and I don't really like to get a meal and not finish it either.

 

If the unlimited drink option being offered for 2016 at CP is available at KI, I think the lines will get even incredibly longer as the drink station will become yet another bottleneck in the chain of getting food, especially with all the line cutters that you frequently see jump the food line and go to the drink station and thus delaying people actually getting food from then moving to the drink station.  I have seen times where the line cutter line is longer than the people getting food - I was once in the chicken shack and was the only one at the food line and while my food was being handed to me, a group of 8 came in and jumped ahead of me to the drink station and then a group came in to get food and it log-jammed the entire line.  KI will never do this as they seem to have trouble enforcing policies already in place, but with an unlimited free refill option, they really need to consider having stand-alone drink stations in the park and not allow folks to fill drinks in the food stands unless they are getting food also.

I would be willing to pay $30 to get $.99 drinks just scanned off my season pass.  Anyone thoughts on that?

 

I would absolutely be on board with that 100% every season without a doubt.

 

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I partook in the inaugural dining plan last year and was happy with it.  I didn't do it this year and I don't regret it.  Mostly because the time change between meals makes it difficult to get two in on a short day after work (if I want to eat twice).  I'd love to see Snack's added.  Perhaps a tiered system could be implemented.

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Sort of disagree on the drink line. If you have 10 people waiting only for pizza can you not skip ahead to get a drink?

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How do you know all 10 people waiting in line is in line for pizza, some could be for a drink only and entered the food/drink line in the proper place?  The only time I have seen the behavior "enforced" is if someone asks the cashier can they just go to the drink dispenser and the cashier says no they have to go in line.

 

Ironic that in your signature line is "You don't butt in line" <_<  When someone bypasses the food queue line and goes through the exit (or underneath the queue bar) that is butting in line in my book!  I can almost guarantee you this problem will be brought up in posts on this forum next year if we have the unlimited free refill drink cups in 2016.  They should really make a drink only line or the whole food line wait problems will only get worse.

 

Maybe if the food stands were like fast food places where you place your order and pay and move down the line instead of paying at the end, it would eliminate that, and may possibly speed up the lines?  Probably not, who am I kidding!

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So like a debit card? If you're saying you pay $30 for unlimited drinks (non souvenir cup) all season vs the souvenir cup, I think some people would go for that. Pay the extra $20 just for the convenience of not carrying around that cup.

The park would then lose out on paper cup cost and locker fees. It would be a great idea for us, but bad business for them. Remember "People gotta drink" as a particular executive would say..
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