Magenta Lizard Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 I decided yesterday since there were 99 days until park open that I wanted to do my own version of "99 bottles" by tweeting my way through the pics I took throughout last season related to the speculation and construction of "Project 2017" Mystic Timbers. If you've been following this thread there won't be a lot new to you, but I'm finding it fun to go back to the beginning and relive when we really had no idea what was to come. My first tweet (from yesterday) is here: I leave it to you to "find" today's tweet and follow along if you're interested 11
upstop Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 I know it's an optical illusion, but in the picture, seeing the height of MT next to DBs lift hill makes its first drop look like it's over 300 feet tall.... 3
sixohdieselrage Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Haha. It actually does. Wow. Maybe Diamondback actually is a giga. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 3
Xdog42 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Guys a picture of the lift hill of Mystic Timbers Kings Island posted on their twitter It's coming together super fast. Opening day can't come any day sooner. Photo: Kings Island via Twitter: https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/817842080525455360 12
meshi1962 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 http://mystictimbers.visitkingsisland.com/nature-rises/construction-photos The KI Mystic Timbers website has a bunch of really cool construction photos. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 10
sixohdieselrage Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 I know it's a little off subject, but does anyone know how tall Diamondback's first hill after the lift hill is? The pic above has me wondering. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 2
MysticsTimber Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 I had been saying something like the Immersive Tunnel since the ride was announced. Construction looks to be going well, don't see any reason why this shouldn't be open on opening day. Unless you're Lightning Rod...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 8
Italian Job 2005 Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Does anyone know if Mystic Timbers (or GCI coasters in general) will have drive wheels in the station and brake runs to further capacity? Or will they operate similarly to Beast where the brakes are simply released and gravity takes the train out of the station?Anyone know from previous GCI rides?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
Creed Bratton Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 More than likely will not have either.....Thunderhead just has brakes in the station and transfer shed. Those items don't necessarily help with capacity, clearing the blocks, having fast/safe crews and no bins will do that. 9
KingsMills79 Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Could be an optical illusion but from the DB webcam, it looks as if there is going to be a final drop either just before (or inside) the shed. 5
MysticsTimber Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Do GCI's tend to run with 2 or 3 trains? Just curious because Mystic Timbers will be my first eve GCI. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
Italian Job 2005 Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Most run with two trains with a rated 850 riders per hour. My thinking is that there might be a slow portion during the shed which is the pull factor for adding a third train to keep capacity up. 4
calakapepe Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Also we wont have to bake in the sun when the crews get a little sluggish (rightfully so) 2
silver2005 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Wodan Timbur Coaster at Europa Park runs 3 trains. Its roughly 200 ft longer than Mystic Timbers. https://rcdb.com/10018.htm 2
goettablitz Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 I believe that the 2 GCI's that I have ridden (Thunderhead and American Thunder) both run 2 trains. 3
new account Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Drive wheels are clearly drawn in all three Shed sections , as well as the curve into the station and the station itself if you look closely at the architectural drawing posted on twitter under the #whatsintheshed hashtag. 1
calakapepe Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 I don't want to post it because I don't know if it's allowed to be posted, but doing that serach "#whatsintheshed" on twitter looking at photos shows... well something! 3
new account Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 FYI, I was given those architectural plans by a friend that was asked to bid the building of the shade structures. Nowhere on the proposal did it indicate that these plans were to be kept secret. I have posted snapshots to Facebook and twitter weeks ago in areas that KI folks could clearly see and have not been asked to remove them. If you all want to keep your head in the sand that is fine. Otherwise I am happy to share the much better PDF file that can be zoomed in on to show much better detail. The plans that I have reveal nothing more than is already visible in those twitter pics, however it is nice to be able to zoom in at will. 2
IndyGuy4KI Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 The words here are professionalism and integrity. If you are asked to bid a project and given foundation and structure drawings to do so, one you don't share with your friends. Second, as a friend you don't spread them all over the internet and possibly risk your friend loosing his bid. Third, they don't reveal what's in the shead. 11
silver2005 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, goettablitz said: I believe that the 2 GCI's that I have ridden (Thunderhead and American Thunder) both run 2 trains. Yeah, all the other GCIs have 2 trains (sans the racing/dueling coasters which have 4 for obvious reasons). 2
CoasterOhio Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Mystic Timbers is operating with three trains. Some questions you guys seem to be asking can probably be revealed either on GCI's website, or the KI, MT webpage. 1
calakapepe Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 FYI, I was given those architectural plans by a friend that was asked to bid the building of the shade structures. Nowhere on the proposal did it indicate that these plans were to be kept secret. I have posted snapshots to Facebook and twitter weeks ago in areas that KI folks could clearly see and have not been asked to remove them. If you all want to keep your head in the sand that is fine. Otherwise I am happy to share the much better PDF file that can be zoomed in on to show much better detail. The plans that I have reveal nothing more than is already visible in those twitter pics, however it is nice to be able to zoom in at will. I didn't say the images were intended to be secret, just that I didn't know. But it's cool to see the queue plans line we got to see before Banshee was announced. 2
gforce1994 Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Just got alerted to a possible mistake in the animation. As you leave the station there is a clue that will tell you what is in the shed. 3
gforce1994 Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Double posting, but in the animation, as the train leaves the station, transfer track is seen protruding from the first segment of the shed. However, the track segment is elevated to such a degree, that a clearance envelope would be violated. Hence the only way to return to the track height of the second structure while covering 0 feet horizontally is a drop track. Images: Mystic Timbers POV animation on visitkingsisland.com: https://mystictimbers.visitkingsisland.com/nature-rises/ride-videos 3
CoasterOhio Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 The animation doesn't show anything. I wouldn't trust the animation for anything, as it's for a look at how the ride will (more or less) run with. 8
silver2005 Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Ok...seriously, this isn't going to be drop track. It'd be very technical to combine a drop track section with a transfer track, that building is the only logical spot for a train shed, and GCI is one of the last companies I can think of to try something like that. Not. Gonna. Happen. Don't go by animation so much. Use actual logic to think things through. 13
Magenta Lizard Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 During his spot on FOX19 Now this morning, Don Helbig mentioned something interesting about the shed experience. He was asked about how Mystic Timbers will be different at night: "Yeah, very much again like The Beast: two different experiences, totally different animal at night. Then you have also that tantalizing mystery with this ride of what's in the shed, and that's going to be different as well too, you know. So there's going to be some light that comes in the shed during the day, not at night, so again two different experiences." I've mentioned before that I think what is in the shed is screens. It makes me wonder if he was alluding to more of a difference than it being darker in there at night, like maybe a different video experience. Only 93 days (possibly less) until we should know! 6
calakapepe Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Either that, I'm getting that you think there might be two intentional experiences in there, similar to Verbolten's little show portion having three styles. I took that the shed won't be completely sealed from light. So, lots of underglow like is seen in typical tunnels.. I hope it won't be super humid in that shed... maybe that's why some light will spill in too, air vents towards the top 5
Magenta Lizard Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Also from FOX19 Now, Don Helbig gave an update on where construction is at the moment. The lift hill and first drop, and going into the first part of the ride are done, but coming around the train house, over WWC and back to the station still needs to be completed. It is still on course to be finished by opening day, tho. 6
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