Rivertown Rider Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I agree that it makes more sense to put the entrance down by the former DA footprint. I would like to see them add some flats though and opening a footpath between AE and Racer would allow them to put some family flats there beside of FOF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium13 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 hours ago, SonofBaconator said: Blasphemy dear sir! Did you not read the snow?! Give me Maverick over Millennium any day of the week... and twice on Sundays. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 13 hours ago, kirbias1 said: Oldschool75's prediction makes the most sense IMO. Between FOF and The Racer is the ideal spot. It could go back behind Banshee or it could go back where DA was. I also think the new possible Coney BBQ restaurant is going there because there will be even bigger crowds in this area because of the new possible Giga in 19 or 20. KI is always looking to the future and I'm sure the Coney BBQ could be the first step in a much bigger (giga) plan in 19. My only concern with getting a giga in 19 is that Canada's Wonderland is rumored to get a coaster that year. Usually, it seems Cedar Fair doesn't release large coasters in its bigger parks the same year. They seem to stagger the coasters built out over different years. Remember that back in 2010, they built a hyper and giga in the same year. So they could do the same with Ziz (the current CW rumor), this giga, and Dorneys rumored relocated coaster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I saw on Instagram that Canada’s Wonderland filed for a permit to build I new coaster. I don’t have to picture personally, but if someone could find it and post it here that’d be great. I’m not 100% sure of its validity as I don’t understand these permits that much. If this were to be true, how do you think this would affect the prospect of a 2019 giga at Kings Island? Personally I think if this were the case, Kings Island would most likely get a giga in 2020 instead of 2019. Thoughts?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, DiamondBanshee said: I saw on Instagram that Canada’s Wonderland filed for a permit to build I new coaster. I don’t have to picture personally, but if someone could find it and post it here that’d be great. I’m not 100% sure of its validity as I don’t understand these permits that much. If this were to be true, how do you think this would affect the prospect of a 2019 giga at Kings Island? Personally I think if this were the case, Kings Island would most likely get a giga in 2020 instead of 2019. Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2020 is Cedar Point's 150th anniversary and it looks like Cedar Point will be getting a coaster that year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorarius Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, DiamondBanshee said: I saw on Instagram that Canada’s Wonderland filed for a permit to build I new coaster. I don’t have to picture personally, but if someone could find it and post it here that’d be great. I’m not 100% sure of its validity as I don’t understand these permits that much. If this were to be true, how do you think this would affect the prospect of a 2019 giga at Kings Island? Personally I think if this were the case, Kings Island would most likely get a giga in 2020 instead of 2019. Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The permit is to put a ride tunnel and 9 support piers in the lake around Vortex... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I figure Wonderland will either get a Wing or an Invert. While I don't think we will get a Giga in '19, I also don't think Wonderland's coaster addition keeps it from happening either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: 2020 is Cedar Point's 150th anniversary and it looks like Cedar Point will be getting a coaster that year. What is your evidence of this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: 2020 is Cedar Point's 150th anniversary and it looks like Cedar Point will be getting a coaster that year. I personally think CP will be doing something more along the lines of Kings Dominion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rivertown Rider said: I figure Wonderland will either get a Wing or an Invert. While I don't think we will get a Giga in '19, I also don't think Wonderland's coaster addition keeps it from happening either. They currently have a wing coaster and an invert. If you see either one of those disappear there's a good chance that's the kind of coaster you'll see in the future. Edited January 21, 2018 by SonofBaconator Meant to say flyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Flight Deck, the current invert, is probably the worst coaster I've been on. They don't currently have a Wing coaster. Time Warp, another bad coaster, is a flying coaster not a wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayaman2 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Plus, Kings Island and Cedar Point (probably more CF parks too) have more than one invert. I think a B&M invert or wing would fit well into CW's lineup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, Rivertown Rider said: Flight Deck, the current invert, is probably the worst coaster I've been on. They don't currently have a Wing coaster. Time Warp, another bad coaster, is a flying coaster not a wing. For some reason I was thinking of a flyer when you said wing. I still think a wing would be a suitable replacement for Time Warp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBlade21 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Rivertown Rider said: Flight Deck, the current invert, is probably the worst coaster I've been on. They don't currently have a Wing coaster. Time Warp, another bad coaster, is a flying coaster not a wing. IMO, Wonderland should demolish Flight Deck & Time Warp and use the combined space to make an excellent B&M invert. 7 hours ago, Honorarius said: The permit is to put a ride tunnel and 9 support piers in the lake around Vortex... Ooooh! That would be an epic place for a wing coaster. Interactions with the water & the backside of Wonder Mountain would be most impressive. Seriously though, I cannot believe how Wonderland's flat collection is outstanding but their coaster lineup drops off real quick. After Leviathan & Behemoth, there really is no other good coaster... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, BloodBlade21 said: After Leviathan & Behemoth, there really is no other good coaster.... Mighty Canadian Minebuster and Wild Beast good considering they're copies of the Shooting Star and Wildcat from Coney Island 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Have you ridden them? My last rides on them in 14...were not so amazing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, chugh43 said: Have you ridden them? My last rides on them in 14...were not so amazing. No I haven't, but from an outside perspective I think they fare well as they resemble a bit of Cincinnati history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: 2020 is Cedar Point's 150th anniversary and it looks like Cedar Point will be getting a coaster that year. After Steel Vengence the last thing they need is another coaster right away. Log Flume, Dark Ride, some modern flats, something family oriented. Anything but a another coaster. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorarius Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 9 hours ago, BloodBlade21 said: IMO, Wonderland should demolish Flight Deck & Time Warp and use the combined space to make an excellent B&M invert. Ooooh! That would be an epic place for a wing coaster. Interactions with the water & the backside of Wonder Mountain would be most impressive. Seriously though, I cannot believe how Wonderland's flat collection is outstanding but their coaster lineup drops off real quick. After Leviathan & Behemoth, there really is no other good coaster... They already took out SkyRider for 'future attractions' (at the end of 2014) and that land has been sitting empty... And it's next door to the currently drained Vortex lake that is getting supports and a tunnel put in it... And yes, the coaster lineup is woefully shallow... They have quantity, but not the quality... When the 3rd best coaster at CW is in line with the 6th or 7th at other parks, you don't measure up well... Sorry to drone on, I've just got years of pent-up bitterness over years of 'I think it's great that Canada's Wonderland is the park for flats' posts... For how many people they put through the gate, they could really use another high capacity attraction to spread that crowd out... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The one thing I love about Canada’s Wonderland is their flat collection and I’m jealous they have it and we don’t lol. I’ve been to the park 2 times, once prior to Fast Lane. I’ve pretty much determined no matter what attractions they have or don’t have, if you want to experience the full park you need Fast Lane Plus and to visit a couple of days. I find CW worthy of a multi day visit but I agree, they really could use another high capacity attraction. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Is wonderland worth getting a passport for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I mean, *I* think it is, but I'm also not as giga-crazy as you. I thought Leviathan was pretty forgettable, and not because it's a B&M--Fury is one of my favorites. For me, the draw for Wonderland is Vortex, Wild Beast, Thunder Run, and the unique flat rides, foods, and live entertainment. (And Wonder Mountain's Guardian, but I think I'm alone on that one.) It's a really well-rounded park that unfortunately just doesn't seem to have a singular star coaster. It's worth at least one visit, if nothing else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 ^^ I plan to visit one year as I go to a different CF park each season now. Just wasn't sure of sooner or later. Haha King's Dominion is this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 6:38 PM, IndyGuy4KI said: What is your evidence of this? Tony Clark said in an interview that he is super pumped for 2020 and that they are going to do something big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorarius Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Maverick44 said: Is wonderland worth getting a passport for? No... Unless you have some crazy love of flat rides, it'd easily skippable... Leviathan isn't as good as Millennium Force, I305 or Fury 325... Behemoth is a bit better than Diamondback, but not enough to make a trip for... Vortex (CW) and The Bat (KI) give the same ride with different scenery... The effects on CW's BLSC haven't worked since not long after the Paramount days ended... Dragon Fire isn't as good as Vortex (KI)... Nighthawk is leaps and bounds better than Time Warp, which is universally despised... Banshee is my favorite inverted coaster... Much better than Flight Deck is... None of the 3 wooden coasters are anything to write home about... Guardian has horrible capacity, the guns are often malfunctioning, and the 3D is blurry and dim... Silver Streak and FAAC are the exact same... As are Taxi Jam and Great Pumpkin Coaster... CWs Boomerang isn't inverted and slightly smaller... What else (other than flats) is there??? A wild mouse and Thunder Run??? If you're in the neighbourhood, give it a shot... Just be prepared to wait a lot... They get the same amount of people through the door as CP, yet only Leviathan and Behemoth have good capacity... Having a park full of flats means you're going to do a lot of waiting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It doesn't help that a bus line has a terminal there for when the park is in operation when it comes to crowd sizes. Jump on the bus to go to CW and not have to pay for parking? Sure! The one thing they have going for them is unique flats. Which to me is something worth going for. I personally love coasters but I'm not afraid of checking out flats. I wish we had a Sledgehammer and some of the other flats they have. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: Tony Clark said in an interview that he is super pumped for 2020 and that they are going to do something big. Tony is a PR Guy. He built up the recent SV Hootenanny as something big. Regarding CW, I look at those flats and think “Cool! I really want to ride those!” But everytime I get off one I always feel a bit let down. There is so much to do a lot closer and cheaper that I haven’t done yet so CW keeps moving down on my to do list. However I really want to take the boys to Niagra so if we are in the neighborhood.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 My wife and I hit up Canada`s Wonderland several years ago (2014). We visited in May, before Wonder Mountain`s Guardian was open. We found it to be a fun park. We got our pass ports for the trip, but we also hit up Niagara Falls on the way (as well as Waldameer). The park has a lot of charm and theming still. The flat rides are fun (and they have added new ones since our visit). We will definitely be going back, once our son is older. He is one year old, so this year our trips are going to be limited to Kings Island and Coney Island. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I really did enjoy CW and I think it is something to certainly spend a couple days there. It is a beautiful park. I would recommend combining it doing others things around the area. The Toronto City Pass is a great way to go to multiple attractions at a discount. The CN Tower and Cass Loma are both great. I would also agree with checking out Niagara Falls and Waldameer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I would still visit. Maybe save it for last thought haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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