SonofBaconator Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 "Alter a waterway to construct in the Regional Storm Floodplain of the Don River in order to facilitate the construction of a by-pass channel and a new roller coaster at Canada's Wonderland located on Part Lot 18-20, Concession 5, 9580 Jane Street, in the City of Vaughan within the Don River Watershed." Its really hard to see what coaster the park could add. I'm predicting either a Gerstlauer, or a B&M Dive 1
teenageninja Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Definitely a good chunk of space in that area. 1
TheRickster Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 That mountain and water feature is so great... I really hope I can make it to CW someday. 2
Honorarius Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 They've actually removed a chunk of Vortex's track to facilitate what they're doing in the (currently drained) lake... The paperwork filed is saying 9 supports and a tunnel... 1
Honorarius Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Here's a good photo that shows the pieces of Vortex removed... Giving the link instead of posting the pic itself so that the pic gets proper attribution...https://www.instagram.com/p/BebQGpQBj08/ 3 1
SonofBaconator Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 So it looks like they're using the old space from Skyrider and the space next to Wonder Mountain? Interesting. I still think its a dive or a compact GCI 1
kirbias1 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 Looks like the tunnel will enable the coaster to use both pieces of land on each side of Vortex by going under the water, to one side, then back to the other. With both pieces of land, this will be a big coaster. My guess is a B&M inverted. 2
Honorarius Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 The current inverting coasters in the park: Arrow Looper (1981) Vekoma SLC (1995) Zamperla Volare (2004) Vekoma Boomerang (1987) Whatever it is, I hope it addresses this... 2
SonofBaconator Posted January 28, 2018 Author Posted January 28, 2018 Yeah they need a good inverting coaster. A dive or an invert would fix this problem nicely. I honestly hope its a dive but I don't know how soon we'll see anyother one in the chain. They wouldn't want to one-up Valravn 1
Oldschool75 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 Did someone order a B&M? **Edit- I removed the image since I found out the poster obtained it by using a drone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 1
BlondyRidesOn Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I'm surprised that it's already starting to appear on site. Not all that common in coaster construction. 1
vortexfan Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I imagine the park wants to get the underwater tunnel beneath Vortex done before the season starts. 3
SonofBaconator Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 16 hours ago, BlondyRidesOn said: I'm surprised that it's already starting to appear on site. Not all that common in coaster construction. Perhaps its a dive-rsion 6 1
matt112986 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 19 hours ago, SonofBaconator said: Perhaps its a dive-rsion You forgot the mike drop. 2 1
BoddaH1994 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/28/2018 at 6:45 PM, Vortexfan said: I imagine the park wants to get the underwater tunnel beneath Vortex done before the season starts. That's likely exactly what's going on. Ground work, tunnels, and track laying is likely to be done for this section quickly so that Vortex can be reassembled and operate for 2018 while construction continues. 2
silver2005 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 Also, if you guys think CP's construction weather is bad during winter... 2
BoddaH1994 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, silver2005 said: Also, if you guys think CP's construction weather is bad during winter... Oh, construction is down to a science now. I bet they have most of this built by the end of Haunt.... for that reason. See also Steel Vengeance progress by the end of Haunt. 1
MDMC01 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 5:23 AM, matt112986 said: You forgot the mike drop. Did somebody say "Mic Drop"? Sorry, I had too... EDIT: More on topic, I did see a Coaster Studios video on this (re: removing part of Vortex for the underwater tunnel) and more speculation. 1
SonofBaconator Posted February 6, 2018 Author Posted February 6, 2018 A couple of speculative questions while its still early Assuming it is indeed a Dive Coaster: Will it break 200ft or will it be one of those smaller Dive Coasters? Will it interact with Wonder Mountain? How many inversions might it have? 1
Honorarius Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 To me, the ride it gives is more important than the height... I'd rather have a great ride that's a bit shorter than a lacklustre ride that hits a certain height number just for bragging/marketing reasons... I personally enjoy Griffon more than Valravn, but to the average person through the gate, either would be a great hit... I doubt it will interact with the mountain... From where it is to the mountain is pretty long haul for a dive coaster... They're already going around/through Vortex, having to go over Guardian and may make it look really cluttered... As for inversions, if it's a dive, the answer is 'not enough'... Canada's Wonderland has 14 inversions, spread over 4 at best mediocre rides, 3 of which is are just off the shelf "I'll take one of those please" coasters, and the 4th is a Arrow Looper that isn't as good as Vortex (KI), Lock Ness Monster (BGW) or Anaconda (KD)... The park has rides with 75 and 80 degree drops... Do they really need a 90 degree drop that bad??? I'd say something is better than nothing, but I'd point to Soaring Timbers, Guardian and Time Warp as exceptions to that rule... 2
SonofBaconator Posted February 19, 2018 Author Posted February 19, 2018 A dive makes sense for Canada's Wonderland because a lot of their current coasters are pretty mediocre so having a dive will give them a good top 3 with Leviathan and Behemoth. Plus it'll be the only dive coaster in Canada so that could break some records there. Canada's Wonderland already has an invert, so I wasn't really surprised to see that they got a dive. I'm curious to see if we'll see more of these B&M dive machines around the chain as the years progress. California's Great America might get one since they're trying to break 200ft on multiple rides. 1
MDMC01 Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Nice! Looks like the new coaster will interact with Vortex, much like how Son of Beast interacted with (what is now called) The Bat years ago. EDIT: Also, a bit off-topic, but... for thos who have ridden both, how does CW's Vortex compare with The Bat at Kings Island?
medford Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Is that tunnel wide enough for a Dive coaster? Perhaps its perspective, but it doesn't look wide enough for the long, 3 deep trains that I've seen on the B&M dive coasters, perhaps a narrower car dive coaster? I'm thinking something like Griffon would be too wide to pass thru that tunnel, or if not, it would provide some serious "chopper" effects.
silver2005 Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 ^There are smaller dive coasters B&M has made that are only 6 across instead of 8 or 10. I'm not ready to call this a dive coaster quite yet. If they did that, I don't think they'd settle for the 6 across cars for a park as busy as CW is. It's clearly not an inverted coaster or a flying coaster, the tunnel is much too narrow for a wing coaster, and CW already has a hyper and a giga. I'm leaning towards a standard floorless at this point.
Honorarius Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Here's some pictures from when the wind was blowing the tarp up... You can see by the cross-section that the spine of the track is pretty sizeable... 2
BlondyRidesOn Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 That looks like floorless track. Dive track is typically wider.
SonofBaconator Posted May 1, 2018 Author Posted May 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, BlondyRidesOn said: That looks like floorless track. Dive track is typically wider. Indeed. Much much wider http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34963&start=480 But if you notice, there's a slight flat curve on either side of the rails- something typically seen on a dive coaster. 1
PKIVortex Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Just a few photos I took on opening day... NiceSent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
CoastersRZ Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 MDMC01, to answer your question, I prefer the setting of The Bat to that of Vortex at Canada`s Wonderland. Because the way the lift goes up in Wonder Mountain, you do not really get a sense of height like you do with The Bat. And I seem to recall the ride felt slower than The Bat, but that could be because of the lack of trees near the ride. The Vortex does have the fact that it is close to the rest of the park, and not a long trek to the station like The Bat has.
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