Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex

[Fishleehooker]

So they move Orion's camera so we could see the rest of the construction. But am I the only one that thinks they made a point to turn it towards a big portion of Vortex?  I think we may see it come dow pretty soon. Then again I am wrong at least over half the time. 

[Legofan237]

5 hours ago, Fishleehooker said:

So they move Orion's camera so we could see the rest of the construction. But am I the only one that thinks they made a point to turn it towards a big portion of Vortex?  I think we may see it come dow pretty soon. Then again I am wrong at least over half the time. 

I believe they are removing Vortex after Winterfest. 

[LintemuthStudios]

COUGH COUGH

[FUN&ONLY!]

3 hours ago, LintemuthStudios said:

COUGH COUGH

I nominate this to replace Vortex!

[Hueney020]

7 hours ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

I nominate this to replace Vortex!

Let’s take a breath first. We don’t even know what it can do yet. Yes it looks like an RMC track but can it do inversions or anything special. I will say it definitely looks interesting and is exciting to see what it can do.   

[FUN&ONLY!]

8 hours ago, Hueney020 said:

Let’s take a breath first. We don’t even know what it can do yet. Yes it looks like an RMC track but can it do inversions or anything special. I will say it definitely looks interesting and is exciting to see what it can do.   

That is all true, but I am really excited to see what GCI can do with this. They already said at IAPPA that their new Infinity Flyer trains can handle launches and inversions, and I think that would be awesome. It would be nice to see GCI’s take on a hybrid, and considering Cedar Fair’s history with GCI, I could see them working with them if they want another hybrid considering the problems Steel Vengeance is causing for them.

[ethancoaster]

I know it’s not the most appropriate thread for this, but what if this track was applied to the straightaways on The Beast? The trims could be taken off and they could run the thing at full speed.

[FUN&ONLY!]

2 hours ago, ethancoaster said:

I know it’s not the most appropriate thread for this, but what if this track was applied to the straightaways on The Beast? The trims could be taken off and they could run the thing at full speed.

That has the potential to be really cool, but I see it as unlikely considering how much it would cost to completely re-track The Beast with this, and I know some people would protest if Kings Island touched The Beast. Still, cool idea!

[ethancoaster]

41 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

That has the potential to be really cool, but I see it as unlikely considering how much it would cost to completely re-track The Beast with this, and I know some people would protest if Kings Island touched The Beast. Still, cool idea!

I’m not suggesting a full retrack, but just the sections of track that have the highest levels of stress put on them. Pretty much any area near the trims.

Also, full disclosure, but I’ve yet to visit Kings Island. So I know I’m not qualified to talk about the level of quality with the track.

 

[BeastForever]

I'm thinking the biggest reason against that idea simply is that such a retrofitting process would be far more difficult than any one of us may think...

[Fishleehooker]

11 hours ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

That has the potential to be really cool, but I see it as unlikely considering how much it would cost to completely re-track The Beast with this, and I know some people would protest if Kings Island touched The Beast. Still, cool idea!

I'd highly consider chaining myself to the tracks then!!  Don't change my beast!! That came out wrong. Don't change The Beast!!  

[CorkscrewMcPuke]

18 hours ago, ethancoaster said:

I know it’s not the most appropriate thread for this, but what if this track was applied to the straightaways on The Beast? The trims could be taken off and they could run the thing at full speed.

Definitely wouldn't be in the park's best interest to retrack The Beast. Seeing as it was an in-house project, the last thing they want to do is throw a bunch of proprietary pieces onto it so they have to wait weeks for OEM replacement parts when it needs repairs. If I'm not mistaken, Vortex had to shut down for a couple of weeks a few years back because of a lift mechanism failure.

[Bdd127]

22 minutes ago, CorkscrewMcPuke said:

Definitely wouldn't be in the park's best interest to retrack The Beast. Seeing as it was an in-house project, the last thing they want to do is throw a bunch of proprietary pieces onto it so they have to wait weeks for OEM replacement parts when it needs repairs. If I'm not mistaken, Vortex had to shut down for a couple of weeks a few years back because of a lift mechanism failure.

The chain broke in summer 2011

[Hawaiian Coasters 325]

I watched in the loop's latest video on Iron Gwazi and let me say. Imagine that type of RMC lift structure towering in the back of the park where Vortex was.

 

[CedarFairFan787]

On 12/6/2019 at 11:24 AM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

I watched in the loop's latest video on Iron Gwazi and let me say. Imagine that type of RMC lift structure towering in the back of the park where Vortex was.

 

If only...

That would be so amazing and there is a chance it could happen...but then again, there is that new GCI hybrid, and we haven't seen what the're able to do.

[Hawaiian Coasters 325]

I'm also starting to think that it doesn't have to be a coaster to go into that plot of land. If CF really wants to spread out coasters and do more interactive experiences, then I think they could do something like a Forbidden Frontier and/or a midway expansion there. Yes, that land is perfect for a coaster, but if this was in fact a last minute decision and they want to find something to put there fast, then maybe a 2021/22 Forbidden Frontier type attraction is a possibility. 

[CedarFairFan787]

On 12/13/2019 at 9:33 AM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

I'm also starting to think that it doesn't have to be a coaster to go into that plot of land. If CF really wants to spread out coasters and do more interactive experiences, then I think they could do something like a Forbidden Frontier and/or a midway expansion there. Yes, that land is perfect for a coaster, but if this was in fact a last minute decision and they want to find something to put there fast, then maybe a 2021/22 Forbidden Frontier type attraction is a possibility. 

I would hope it would be a coaster, but then again, I have not experienced Forbidden Frontier for myself yet, so I don't know what its like. An RMC launched Hybrid would be my personal pic, but a great hybrid would do just fine. A B&M dive would fit there wonderfully as well though.

[dropdasher]

As unlikely as it is, I the land is big enough to hold a raptor and an infinity. I doubt Cedar Fair is going to add 2 coasters in a year, but maybe with a 3 year gap in between each 

[ThrillKingsFitzy]

Don't know about you guys, but I would absolutely love a clone of fenix in Vortex's spot. Fenix could possibly be better than Thunderbird. 

[Benjamin22]

I’d rather our new ride not be a clone, we already have 7 cloned / very similar rides at the park… (The Bat, Invertigo, BLSC, Racer, FoF, Woodstock express, Flying Ace Aerial Chase)

[CoastersRZ]

The Racer is not  a clone.  It was the original.  Racer 75 (which opened after KI`s Racer) is slightly different in the fact that the turn around does not fan out like it does on Racer.  

[Benjamin22]

^ That’s why I said very similar, yes there’s a slight difference but as you said, it’s only slightly different.

[collin.klopfstein]

Could monster jam thunder alley be a possibility while they make plans for possibly a new ride for 2023-2024?

 

[King Ding Dong]

I don’t see why not, other than cutting down trees.   IIRC I read CF was going to bring it to other parks.   I thought it was stupid but my boys liked it.  Once.  
 

Also surprised it wasn’t an upcharge.  The cycle time is horrendous, it makes Monster seem like Banshee.

[Oldschool75]

On 1/10/2020 at 8:17 AM, CoastersRZ said:

The Racer is not  a clone.  It was the original.  Racer 75 (which opened after KI`s Racer) is slightly different in the fact that the turn around does not fan out like it does on Racer.  

As well as way different profiles for the 4th hills. 

[collin.klopfstein]

I know we just got Orion and this is most likely Kings dominions Wing coaster track but here is some mystery purple track , could it be Kings Islands? Most likely not but just an idea

[Hawaiian Coasters 325]

2 hours ago, collin.klopfstein said:

I know we just got Orion and this is most likely Kings dominions Wing coaster track but here is some mystery purple track , could it be Kings Islands? Most likely not but just an idea

That purple track has been there for a while I believe. 

[Joshua]

I'd be very surprised if we get another coaster so soon. 

[ThrillKingsFitzy]

44 minutes ago, Joshua said:

I'd be very surprised if we get another coaster so soon. 

This is probably for the kings dominion coaster. Looks like wing track.

[rhyano]

More than likely it's for overseas, or it's dive coaster track for Emperor at Seaworld San Diego, normally domestic track doesn't show up outside until around July or August. Yukon was an exception because of the work they had to do around Vortex and take out sections of track to fit and lower pieces of track into that tunnel.