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Grand Carnivale 2023 Discussion and Food Reviews


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Did they actually get all the lit garlands plugged in or do they all just have the plugs hanging from them like they did on Tuesday. Seems like a waste to buy garlands lit with specific colored lights to match the garlands-hand them on buildings covered in outlets and never plug them in. 

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56 minutes ago, Timchat2 said:

The garland lights were dark tonight (Saturday). Hopefully we'll see them lit up soon.

don't count on it - they went the whole event last time mostly all dark with dangling plugs - was hoping this time around they MIGHT have actually taken the time to plug them in. They used a lot of them just wadded up at the bases of the poles on the concrete blocks - seems like a poor use of the assets they have to work with. It's cool that they actually match the flags of the country they are used in, so some thought went into them. 

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Were the Grand Carnivale characters around outside of the opening ceremony and the parade? Other than the King, Queen and two jesters I didn't see any of them at the dance parties or the finale.

With so many of the performers still doing their regular shows during the day the park is likely letting them go home after the parade to round out their shifts.

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30 minutes ago, Timchat2 said:

Were the Grand Carnivale characters around outside of the opening ceremony and the parade? Other than the King, Queen and two jesters I didn't see any of them at the dance parties or the finale.

With so many of the performers still doing their regular shows during the day the park is likely letting them go home after the parade to round out their shifts.

They also didn’t mingle and then close out the night on stage like they did in past years. Really took away something that was rather magical in past years. Food was good, parade was fun, but the budget cuts this year were really felt in some aspects. 

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36 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:

They also didn’t mingle and then close out the night on stage like they did in past years. Really took away something that was rather magical in past years. Food was good, parade was fun, but the budget cuts this year were really felt in some aspects. 

Thankfully the parade feels essentially like it did in 2021, so that core part of the event remains intact. The performers and their costumes look amazing this year so it would have been nice to spend more time with them, get photos, etc.

Not having Pulse of Carnivale (the drummers and cirque performers) is unfortunate because that really added to the festive vibe of the evening. And while I do enjoy RetroSpect on its own terms, the show doesn't really have much in the way of international flavor to its music. The lack of a live band is certainly felt as well. Royal Rhythms felt like a true party with all that energy coming from the Bandstand.

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7 hours ago, BoddaH1994 said:

They also didn’t mingle and then close out the night on stage like they did in past years. Really took away something that was rather magical in past years. Food was good, parade was fun, but the budget cuts this year were really felt in some aspects. 

Those aspects that you mentioned are really getting noticed and called out in other channels as well. It’s not just the “crazy loyalists” that are noticing the drop in quality recently. Slipper slope here. 

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6 hours ago, Timchat2 said:

Thankfully the parade feels essentially like it did in 2021, so that core part of the event remains intact. The performers and their costumes look amazing this year so it would have been nice to spend more time with them, get photos, etc.

Not having Pulse of Carnivale (the drummers and cirque performers) is unfortunate because that really added to the festive vibe of the evening. And while I do enjoy RetroSpect on its own terms, the show doesn't really have much in the way of international flavor to its music. The lack of a live band is certainly felt as well. Royal Rhythms felt like a true party with all that energy coming from the Bandstand.

Looks like they cut the trampoline unit (as they have at the other parks that have already done Carnivale) was hoping that was just a temporary thing at KD, but looks like it applied everywhere. 

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5 hours ago, brenthodge said:

Those aspects that you mentioned are really getting noticed and called out in other channels as well. It’s not just the “crazy loyalists” that are noticing the drop in quality recently. Slipper slope here. 

This also explains why the opening ceremony is at 6:00 instead of 5:00 like on past years. 

5:00 - clock in 


6:00 - opening ceremony

7:00 - parade

8:00 - clock out

Saving well-over three hours of labor per performer. 

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6 hours ago, brenthodge said:

Looks like they cut the trampoline unit (as they have at the other parks that have already done Carnivale) was hoping that was just a temporary thing at KD, but looks like it applied everywhere. 

With the All Wheel Sports trampoline performers at Off the Rails this summer I was hoping Kings Island's parade would have kept the trampoline unit.

The tight evening schedule is apparently a way to still have the regular daytime shows and Grand Carnivale within a 12-8 shift for nearly everyone (except RetroSpect's evening shift).

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1 hour ago, Timchat2 said:

With the All Wheel Sports trampoline performers at Off the Rails this summer I was hoping Kings Island's parade would have kept the trampoline unit.

The tight evening schedule is apparently a way to still have the regular daytime shows and Grand Carnivale within a 12-8 shift for nearly everyone (except RetroSpect's evening shift).

Plus cutting hours out of the other opening ceremony/dancers’ schedules so they work four hours instead of eight. 
 

Much of what they have is really great, some of it is so cut down that it’s less like Grand Carnivale and more like Church Carnival. 

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1 minute ago, BoddaH1994 said:

Plus cutting hours out of the other opening ceremony/dancers’ schedules so they work four hours instead of eight. 
 

Much of what they have is really great, some of it is so cut down that it’s less like Grand Carnivale and more like Church Carnival. 

"Church Carnivale" is how to get around using the word budget and getting flagged like using that word with giga LOL

It will be interesting what the park surveys come back with, along with social media posts. 

To the couple time a year guests it is probably a nice limited run event - "hey lets go to KI before that event is gone"

To the multiple visits guests and fans of the park, they will notice the cuts and may decide to skip the event, especially if the limited run increases attendance.

Is the bump in attendance yesterday and today a result of Carnivale or the nice weekend weather that we haven't had the past several weekends?

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Now I know what I noticed at Winterfest this past year.  It was still beautiful, but something about it felt kind of empty.  Kind of like going to a Christmas party and all the snacks and decorations are there, but the host had already left.

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