Kings Dominion: Pantherian question

[Vortex1987]

Hello, I have a  trip planned this year for Kings Dominion with my family to get my #1 bucket list ride done: I305 (Now Pantherian) 

 

I have read TONS of reports of people blacking out and greying out due to its sheer intensity. Me, being a sucker for ultra-intense rides (as long as its not Crypt during 08, that was TOO much), wants to know: 

 

What is the BEST way to actively black out? How do I make myself black out as much as possible? I want that full intensity and this is going to be my only chance. What can I do to proactively increase my chances of blacking out on that first turn? The more intense the better!!

[disco2000]

Don't eat or drink for 2 days and sit in back row lol

[Orion742]

1 hour ago, Vortex1987 said:

Hello, I have a  trip planned this year for Kings Dominion with my family to get my #1 bucket list ride done: I305 (Now Pantherian) 

 

I have read TONS of reports of people blacking out and greying out due to its sheer intensity. Me, being a sucker for ultra-intense rides (as long as its not Crypt during 08, that was TOO much), wants to know: 

 

What is the BEST way to actively black out? How do I make myself black out as much as possible? I want that full intensity and this is going to be my only chance. What can I do to proactively increase my chances of blacking out on that first turn? The more intense the better!!

I hope you’re going later in the year because I’m hearing it might not be open until mid June at the earliest.

[Vortex1987]

6 minutes ago, Orion742 said:

I hope you’re going later in the year because I’m hearing it might not be open until mid June at the earliest.

Around July. I'm not going until I'm 100% certain Pantherian is open. 

[MysticTimberwolf]

Having been a part of a similarly minded group during an ERT event, here's what we found:

The back right side tends to exaggerate lateral and positive G-forces on that initial turn.

Don’t brace or tense—just let your body go with the motion.

Eat light beforehand, going in with an empty-ish stomach will heighten your body's adrenaline response, but PLEASE stay hydrated.

Tilt your head slightly down during the turn.

 

As intense as the ride is, even the most knee-locking thrill seekers in our group were only able to stay grayed out until the top of the subsequent hill.

[BeeastFarmer]

I didn't black out or gray out at all.  This coaster was boring. The worst of the GiGaS. If I had to choose between it and Mean Streak, I'd choose Mean Streak, it's that boring.

[CoasterJack]

10 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:

I didn't black out or gray out at all.  This coaster was boring. The worst of the GiGaS. If I had to choose between it and Mean Streak, I'd choose Mean Streak, it's that boring.

Did we ride the same ride? . I understand it's not great for airtime. If the intensity doesn't get to you, it basically just meanders arounds twists and turns and has a much different layout than any of the other Gigas.

[TOPGUN1993]

[Vortex1987]

On 4/13/2025 at 8:04 PM, MysticTimberwolf said:

Having been a part of a similarly minded group during an ERT event, here's what we found:

The back right side tends to exaggerate lateral and positive G-forces on that initial turn.

Don’t brace or tense—just let your body go with the motion.

Eat light beforehand, going in with an empty-ish stomach will heighten your body's adrenaline response, but PLEASE stay hydrated.

Tilt your head slightly down during the turn.

 

As intense as the ride is, even the most knee-locking thrill seekers in our group were only able to stay grayed out until the top of the subsequent hill.

I'll stay hydrated, I just want the thing to be as ultra-intense as possible. I'll probably try to lap it 15-20 times to increase my chances of a full blackout.

 

It can't be as bad as 08' Crypt.

[Vortex1987]

On 4/13/2025 at 8:04 PM, MysticTimberwolf said:

Having been a part of a similarly minded group during an ERT event, here's what we found:

The back right side tends to exaggerate lateral and positive G-forces on that initial turn.

Don’t brace or tense—just let your body go with the motion.

Eat light beforehand, going in with an empty-ish stomach will heighten your body's adrenaline response, but PLEASE stay hydrated.

Tilt your head slightly down during the turn.

 

As intense as the ride is, even the most knee-locking thrill seekers in our group were only able to stay grayed out until the top of the subsequent hill.

What will happen if I don't stay hydrated? I'm probably going to skip breakfast and lunch on the day I go and I'll make sure its a hot day. 

 

I want to black out. A full-on blackout. 

[silver2005]

You know, even if you try and manipulate your health for what you think are prime black out factors, you still may not because everyone experiences G forces differently.  There's no set way of trying to get one or not.  Heck, even with me, I get deep grey outs or near black outs on Invertigo a lot, but there are also times where I don't.   I thought I'd grey or black out during my rides on I305 but didn't.  I will say I do consistently grey out on Millennium Force between the bottom of the first drop until the first camelback hill. 

In addition, it the amount of G's on an element isn't the only factor in black outs.  How long they sustain is another key factor and with Pantherian's speed, you're blazing through that course.  The only turn that really has a chance at grey/black out is the one at the bottom of the first drop, which, keep in mind, was redesigned after its first season along with trims on the first drop because of the amount of people experiencing black outs being reported.  

I also feel if you're relying on a black out to enjoy a coaster, you might be enjoying them kinda wrong....

[Vortex1987]

48 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

You know, even if you try and manipulate your health for what you think are prime black out factors, you still may not because everyone experiences G forces differently.  There's no set way of trying to get one or not.  Heck, even with me, I get deep grey outs or near black outs on Invertigo a lot, but there are also times where I don't.   I thought I'd grey or black out during my rides on I305 but didn't.  I will say I do consistently grey out on Millennium Force between the bottom of the first drop until the first camelback hill. 

In addition, it the amount of G's on an element isn't the only factor in black outs.  How long they sustain is another key factor and with Pantherian's speed, you're blazing through that course.  The only turn that really has a chance at grey/black out is the one at the bottom of the first drop, which, keep in mind, was redesigned after its first season along with trims on the first drop because of the amount of people experiencing black outs being reported.  

I also feel if you're relying on a black out to enjoy a coaster, you might be enjoying them kinda wrong....

That 1st turn on Pantherian is nothing but sustained positives. And exactly what im looking to feel when riding it.

 

I want to see if it can outdo 2008 Crypt as the most intense ride Ive been on. Albeit, even though if Pantherian does end up being more intense (which i doubt it will), it wont actually scare me like Crypt did. 

[Tr0y]

18 hours ago, Vortex1987 said:

What will happen if I don't stay hydrated? I'm probably going to skip breakfast and lunch on the day I go and I'll make sure its a hot day. 

 

I want to black out. A full-on blackout. 

There are many bars to choose from at KD if you’re looking to blackout. I would avoid the premade mixed drinks, those tend to be light on the booze. 

[Diamondback_Is_King]

1 hour ago, silver2005 said:

I will say I do consistently grey out on Millennium Force between the bottom of the first drop until the first camelback hill. 

I also grey out occasionally right before the turnaround after the first drop...and for some weird reason I used to grey out during the helix on Orion. But, I've gotten over the grey out after riding it so many times. Doesn't happen much anymore. But I don't judge a ride on how much it makes me grey out, but by how much fun I had and the smile I wear after riding it!