ragerunner Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 If that is the case, then X-Flight might be going there. Where you able to get any pics of the heavy equipment or the footers? Since it sounds like you live in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Paging CoastersRZ.....(who will remind all it is NOT footers, but it may be footings...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nemo Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 This is how I look at things. in 2000 we got SOB, a ride to bring back coaster seekers in 2001 we got the Nick Expansion to bring back Families in 2002 we got TRTR to bring back thrill seekers in 2003 we got a new Thrill ride and Family ride in 2004 we got a new and improved waterpark in 2005 we got a family coaster in 2006 we got a new and improved kids area. I look for a pattern, each year a new attraction is built to bring back a crowd of a certain thrill level, 2000: Thrill 2001: Kids 2002: Thrill 2003: Thrill and Kids 2004: Family 2005: Thrill and Kids 2006: Kids Do you see a pattern? It is all part of marketing, to bring back a group of people. If we were to go by this pattern guess what would come next... Thrill. And after that it would be Kids in case you were wondering. It's all about who will bring in the most $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality15 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 If that is the case, then X-Flight might be going there. Where you able to get any pics of the heavy equipment or the footers? Since it sounds like you live in the area. Nope, I didn't because my camera was stolen from my dorm a week ago and I just went and got a new camera last night. Not to mention that area is hard enough to see because it's covered on two sides by wooden roller coasters and the other by trees. I live about 45 minutes away, just west of Grand Rapids. I was driving back to school from home (Okenawa) and figured I'd stop by since it was on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 A lot of posts over on Coasterbuzz (as well as a rumor on Screamscape) point toward X-Flight going to Michigan's Adventure, rather than PKI. I would think MiA would face the same "low attendance/big footprint" issues with hosting this ride as GL faces (of course, MiA doesn't have the other coaster support overhead that GL does). The logic/argument for this ride not going to PKI is its capacity–people seem to think it's too low for PKI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The only reason they point to MIA is people in that area are angry at CF for not building any new coaster in years. I think it's more wishful thinking on their part than any proof that it will go to MIA. You can't argue capacity either. Look at Delirium, Face/Off, and Drop Zone...capacity nightmares. I really don't think it's an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I was going to say... When I think capacity nightmares, I think boomerangs. When I think boomerangs, I think Face/Off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shman Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I just had to laugh at this signature from Maureen in the other topic: Soaring through the off season, PKImaureen Fits very well ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yeah, I'm not an advocate for the position one way or another...just stating what's being mentioned on other boards. Does anyone know what the hourly capacity on X-Flight even is? Also, when Stealth moved to Carowinds (and turned into "Borg Assimilator") was a second loading area added? I seem to remember that being mentioned as a fault of the Stealth prototype design. However, X-Flight was built with the redundant loading stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkjkj Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 as stated by RCDB the capacity for X Flight is Capacity: 1430 riders per hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I really it gets that many people. And since when does Kings Island care about capacity? I mean come slow loading times on Delirium, Dropzone and Face/Off. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIDelirium Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Delirium? Umm. Delirium's line moves very quickly. Drop Zone's isn't bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Really? Is that why it seems that the line never moves? I see you love Delirium, but its' capacity is not that great. I also left out TR:TR as low capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkjkj Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 TRTR has okay capacity, and Delerium has great capacity, idk wher you have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 In line forever waiting on Delirium. Tomb Raider has awful capacity. About as good as Drop Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 MiA under CF has already recived a used ride already, the dodgems from CP. If they got a used ride from CP, why not a used coaster from sister park GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I rarely ride Drop Zone because the line takes forever. Horrible Capacity. Back to X-Flight, Michigan is becoming more and more of a tourist area, especially the Grand Rapids and West Coast areas. Cedar Fair might have big plans for MiA because of the increased tourist boom in the area. Im not saying its going there, but we still have very little proof it is going to KI. We only have reports of soil test samples and a survey crew from Mason at GL. There really isnt much else to go by except rampant speculation. Also most on here dont want to think about X-Flight going somewhere else because we really want it at KI. Makes sense we all think its going to KI, this is a KI community. Until we have pictures of construction, track spotted, or a press release I will keep speculating. MiA at this point might make more sense then KI, especially seeing as how Cedar Fair hasnt even opperated KI for an entire seasson yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Delirium's got a decently fast line...it's main problem is loading times, but with people kicking you in the shins every step along the way checking restraints, I can see why it'd take a bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality15 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 MiA under CF has already recived a used ride already, the dodgems from CP. If they got a used ride from CP, why not a used coaster from sister park GL. Two. The Swan Boats have also come used from Cedar Point. We've also recieved a lot of the decor from the old Coasters restaurant from downtown Sandusky. Deconstruction is supposed to start this week at Geauga Lake, so I'm guessing we'll be seeing track or supports at the ride's destination at the most two weeks from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well everyone in Toledo keep your eyes open and everyone in Columbus keep your eyes open. Whoever spots track first will let us know where its going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialk141 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 well we all know x-flight was originally slated for PKI the year after Stealth opened. Those plans were scrapped by paramount and Six flags put the coaster close to the park it was orignally inteneded for. Same with Batwing i believe. Anyone know where in the park the coaster was orignally supposed to be installed? if so, that could be a hint as to where it may end up now. i mean the surveying and such was probably already done when this coaster was planned for pki, since we know its a long process of planning, purchasing and constructing. is there something else wehre the coaster was suppsoed to be placed? if not, we could probably assume that if it is coming to PKI it will go there. honestly, i have heard nothing but bad things about these coasters. there are only three in existance from vekoma, so stheres probably a reason for that. sure i'd love the addition i'm sure, but it cant be that great of a ride, or the concept woul have taken off, and we'd see a lot more of these things around. p.s... also laughing at maureen's sig: "soaring through the offseason" oooo... fuel to the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reon Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 A lot of posts over on Coasterbuzz (as well as a rumor on Screamscape) point toward X-Flight going to Michigan's Adventure, rather than PKI. I would think MiA would face the same "low attendance/big footprint" issues with hosting this ride as GL faces (of course, MiA doesn't have the other coaster support overhead that GL does). The logic/argument for this ride not going to PKI is its capacity–people seem to think it's too low for PKI... If we're going by rumors on other sites, ThemeParkReview seems to be favoring KI last time I checked.... As far as capacity, I hate to say it but Delerium has a pretty good capacity (stupid killing off King Cobra *angsts*) The other newer thrill rides do have an issue IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 crew from Mason at GL. They were from Milford not Mason. CoastersRZ's company has done work with the crew in question before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yes, it's true that there are not many Vekoma flyers around. However, I have been on X-Flight many times and it is a good, thrilling ride. Not uncomfortable or bumpy. That's why I want it to come to KI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 A lot of posts over on Coasterbuzz (as well as a rumor on Screamscape) point toward X-Flight going to Michigan's Adventure, rather than PKI. I would think MiA would face the same "low attendance/big footprint" issues with hosting this ride as GL faces (of course, MiA doesn't have the other coaster support overhead that GL does). The logic/argument for this ride not going to PKI is its capacity–people seem to think it's too low for PKI... If we're going by rumors on other sites, ThemeParkReview seems to be favoring KI last time I checked.... As far as capacity, I hate to say it but Delerium has a pretty good capacity (stupid killing off King Cobra *angsts*) The other newer thrill rides do have an issue IMO... So...who is "going by" the other sites? I simply mentioned that alternate theories were being discussed in other places--which is true. Personally, I don't give any more credence to theories and rumors floated on Screamscape, Coasterbuzz, (or ThemeParkReview) than I do to what gets posted here. Until there's some official confirmation it's all just a bunch of talk anyway... Now, if Shaggy were to come on and post an informed opinion about where X-Flight were going, I'd definitely take that one to heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Id say the flying Dutchman didnt take off for Vekoma, because it was a Vekoma coaster. They are not world renowned for great designs or coasters. Nothing like a great Vekoma Hang and Bang. SLC anyone? That and B&M followed with their flyer fairly soon after Vekoma. So would you like a Vekoma or B&M? Easy choice. I will say though that I think the Flying Dutchman is the best Vekoma coaster design out there. It is smooth, thrilling and unique, even with its cookie cutter design. Good addition to any park as a used ride, but still why not build a B&M insted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Have a ride on Expedition Everest and you will see that Vekoma can build one as smooth as a B&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueTEXAN1990 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Nope, I didn't because my camera was stolen from my dorm a week ago and I just went and got a new camera last night. Not to mention that area is hard enough to see because it's covered on two sides by wooden roller coasters and the other by trees. I live about 45 minutes away, just west of Grand Rapids. I was driving back to school from home (Okenawa) and figured I'd stop by since it was on the way. If its so hard to see how come you could u see heavy equipment let alone footings for a new ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality15 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 If its so hard to see how come you could u see heavy equipment let alone footings for a new ride. It's not like you can't see through a wooden roller coaster... and there's a place in the employee parking lot that if you get in the right spot you can see the edge of that area. I said it was hard to see, not impossible. I don't see why you feel the need to bash me when all I'm saying is that I saw something, I'm not making some outrageous claim like a bunch of others are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkjkj Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 who's a bunch of others? I dont think i've heard ANYONE make a totally utrageous claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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