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Yet you are still here. Differently abled people are entitled to equal opportunity, which I have fought for for most of my career. That does not mean a pass to do what one wants and then to cry out "But I'm disabled." rights are far too important to use only as a crutch. If I have truly offended someone who was not doing that, I apologize. I do NOT apologize, and never will, for knowing and expecting that all of us can achieve great things. And, by the way. If I have a problem with someone or their conduct, I tell them. I don't wait weeks or months and then "Hint. Hint" on a public forum. You won't get much done in life that way. Disability may be a fact of life, and for many of us it is., but it is not an excuse to be used for life.

I enjoy seeing that the park is actually putting light upon the dismantlement of the ride. Seeing how many of the posts and updates about SOB continually reference future park expansion, fills me with hope that there are currently plans for the area. Reminds me of how Disaster Transport and Space Spiral were announced for dismantlement before Gatekeeper was announced. But realistically, nothing will be there in 2013, hopefully 2014.

Probably one involving a sister.

I think we should merge the two topics. There are too many SOB topics. Why can't photos of SOB be locate here in the official SOB to be removed page?

Info for 2012 has been added below and to the original page. Pictures from Kings Island's facebook. --- 2012 A new haunted house and several new scare zones were added, as was a new dining experience and a new show. Madame Fatale's Cavern of Terror (The Crypt) - A wax museum style haunted house. Utilized various props from Phantom Theater and The Crypt. On-ride photo included at beginning. Madame Fatale's Dead Inn Feast (The Crypt) - A unique dining experience hosted before the start of Haunt and housed in the former antechamber / preshow rooms of The Crypt. Nightmare Alley (Pathway between International Street and Action Zone) - A generic scare zone with an extensive use of eyeballs. Freak Street (Planet Snoopy) - A new name for 2011's Nightmare Alley. Grimm Blvd. (Action Zone) - A steam punk fairy tale style scare zone Death Drums (Action Zone Water Tower) - A unique music show. Returning attractions were Slaughterhouse, Club Blood, Wolf Pack, Cut-Throat Cove, Massacre Manor, Mysteria, Urgent Scare, CornSTALKERS, Tombstone Terror-tory, CarnEVIL, Holiday Horror, Cemetery Drive, and Hot Blooded. Half-Pint Brawlers did not return, enabling Graveyard Shift to be performed during Haunt hours. Cut-Throat Cove was reversed, placing the entrance near Sling Shot and allowing Viking Fury to remain open at night. The queue was reworked for Tombstone Terror-tory so that guests would enter through the White Water Canyon entrance.

The swing in my back yard has a larger active seat capacity than WS now.

Please tell me there is an inside joke here? Terp and I may disagree on numerous topics, but it has NEVER come close to being disrespectful.It sounds like CoasterOhio is not only looking for special treatment, the member is looking for a handicap parking space at KIC (metaphorically speaking, of course). - Brown. Who's daughter was diagnosed with a disability, and made sure the ENTIRE family treated her the same as any other kid to prevent the excuse crutch from EVER being used.

I'm not much of a KIC enthusiast. I've never even met Dane, Boddah, or The Interpreter. Actual (slightly mushy) answer: I don't know. I know enough random KI ride trivia to make my non-coastering friends' eyes roll, but I don't get psyched every time I go to the park like I used to. I still love the park very much, but it's become less of "this is the best mini-vacation ever" and more of a place where I can relax and get away with each trip. I've come nowhere near the 18-ish visits I made in 2008 in this year or last, but I feel like I've learned to appreciate the place in a new way. (I guess that's one thing that can be said for the removal of The Crypt for me: I never really noticed this until this year. Once upon a time, riding it and Son of Beast were the meat and potatoes of a KI trip for me and my friends.) If you told me a year, I probably couldn't tell you with much certainty (unless we're talking the late 90's, 2000's, and whatever you want to call this decade) what rides came or went, but I can point out several places in the park where I've had fun experiences since I started buying my own passes four years ago. More times than not, the fun we've had was because we were at Kings Island. Summarized: I love the place, but not for any particular reason related to what's there, haha. EDIT: Except for Adventure Express.

Just now got around to photographing some of my memorabilia I treasure. The first of which is something which I believe is very rare as I have not seen this anywhere else. These are my Face/Off playing cards from the Paramount days. I believe I bought these in 2002 when KI was celebrating their 30th Anniversary Season.

You mean you don't throw the word "donkey" into every sentence? What kind of forum do you run?

How about we leave the moderating to the moderators? PM them if you have issues. These posts about moderating are just clutter. And how it's done elsewhere is of little to no relevance here. We ain't elsewhere. Glory be!

I hope the park continues to update us on what is being demolished. I really like the current pictures!

I voted 10, but I guess I am really a 10+. After being on these forums for close to 3 years now. I have gain a lot of knowledge, respect for members and park, and most of all friends. I have only meet Dane a few times, I hung out with Boddah at opening of haunt for several hours and enjoyed his company. I have briefly meet Terpy and got to shake his hand at KI once, but still consider him a good friend as I do everyone on KIC. I really enjoy meeting others from the site especially the younger ones that have a real passion and genuine love for KIC and KI. I had the opportunity to meet and ride with a few of our younger KIC'ers like ohiocolts and beatie1980 and it makes me proud to be part of such a fun and dedicated group of people that have the same enthusiasm as me about KI and other parks!

^ Careful about planning a trip on the 30th. I believe you'll be disappointed: http://www.visitkingsisland.com/hours-directions/kings-island

Agreed. Particularly in an election year, Cedar Fair should be more savvy than implying only Democrats are frightening. Pretty sure Reagan got me on Friday... I know they are only going by the calender, and they aren't trying to be political, but that's also a reason to have both sides. Who knows? George Washington with an ax could be lurking around. Last year Bill Clinton had the misfortune of leaping out right in front of my neice, the only thing I could think of was "Not her, you don't!" I hope he got the humor of that. If it were any other president, the thought wouldn't have entered my head. Bausch and Lombe used to have a good eyedrop solution, I don't know if they still make it, I no longer wear contacts. Fair warning, anytime you are in a situation where say, the residue of something like fog can get in your eyes, sometimes drops can only make it worse, it a gross way.

^knowing him as a man of good character and true respect for those with disabilities, I would imagine there was misunderstanding involved. I can't think of anyone else here who has made more posts against inappropriate stereotypes or derogatory statements than he. There are several people here that I have tremendous respect for and I owe the majority of my KI knowledge to this site. I find peace, comfort and joy with these friends (some I've never met) and am glad to be a part of this community. I get annoyed at immature posters and haven't posted much recently but I can't imagine I'll ever stop returning to KIC.

I want to start a topic about how you FEEL about SOB being removed. Since there's already topics about rumors of it, pictures of it and a discussion of it. Frankly, I'm sad and glad, happy and mad, feel good and bad. The only constant...is change.

wow. just read all comments on thread. That's about 30 minutes of my life I'll never get back. I've read things from the park's press release that I am sure was well prepared and rehearsed... From that I would surmise a few things: don't expect anything in that area except grass and weeds for 2013 and maybe a construction zone in some of it for 2014. the words were clear way for future expansion. I think for some on this board that means every acre used by SOB in that expansion... doubtful. from my perspective. a few things: I anticipate an Action Zone makeover with a mid-completion date of 2015 and beyond. in regards to our newbie's critiquing the Board. I'm going to side with Terp on this. not saying that one should have 35k+ posts like terp to critique... but possibly more than 45.

silver2005: Let me get this straight. You come here to gather information for a competing website, and you are complaining it's too hard to find here and there's room for improvement. Really?

^ I wouldn't say that asking for it is very hard at all!

I beg to differ. While this site isn't like others, there are things that other sites do that could make this site better IMO. This is the premier website on Kings Island information out there and I see soooo much room for improvement. Just sayin'. Is it really too hard to ask for a little organization?

On a completely unrelated note, someone really needs to start the "land where SoB used to reside" thread... No matter what you thought of SoB…

I honestly think it was the best one the park has had in a very long time. It definitely is my favorite. I was really hoping they would do a good job with it considering they would have a full year to prepare for it. I was blown away by the maze and definitely will be doing it again. I didn’t feel like it was a generic maze at a theme park. It had its own unique atmosphere and was really well planned. It is by far my favorite maze at the park and hope they keep it around for many seasons.

Welcome to KIC! I try to give everyone that is newer than me a welcome photo, and since your post was about fireworks... here is one of my favorite pictures I took at the WBEN fireworks this year. Pictures2 477 by KIC-Original, on Flickr It kinda looks like a double headed snowman.

On July 4th, my boyfriend and I thought we were going to luck out and get to watch the fireworks go off while riding Invertigo. Instead we got stuck in the station because someone went into a restricted zone and the ride had to be shut down. They couldn't get the ride to reboot (or do whatever they do) properly to even let us off. They eventually had to manually release us. Fun Times!

Why have two topics that are basically discussing the same thing: SOB removal. What topic is next, SOB replacement topic and SOB replacement construction pictures? I say merge both topics into this topic, which was here first.

Last time I was at KI I took multiple pictures for this topic and I am trying to spred them out, 1 by 1 so this thread wont become "dead" (hey that rhymed!). I have lots more where this one came from. I hope to post some pics of it being torn down, when I go this weeked. Its really hard to get some diffrent pictures of it because you can only see so much of it now from AZ, and the Eifle tower. (And mabey a few other places) Pictures2 588 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Pictures2 564 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Pictures2 584 by KIC-Original, on Flickr

DISMANTLING OF Son of Beast UNDERWAY AT Kings Island http://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog-article/online-fun/Dismantling-of-Son-of-Beast-underway-at-Kings-Island

Still less than 64, but infinitely more than 0.

This is perfect. It totally describes me as well, down to the rides even. As I grew up through the 90's and 2000's, I made tons of memories riding and doing things that I thought would always be there. Phantom Theater, King Cobra, and the Antique Cars were huge hits in the childhood when they were removed. You can't replace memories like that. Son of Beast is the biggest blow for me, being that that ride was my coaster "moment" (when I knew i was hooked, haha) It really does give you a new perspective of the park. You create new memories every time you go, and you have to appreciate every moment you get there because you never know what won't be there next time you come. Hearing my parents tell me about The Bat, Flight Commander, and other rides of legend makes me wonder what I'll tell my kids about one day.

I attended the Haunt on 9/21 (Friday). I must say, although the new Madame Fatale Haunt was rather great (even on opening night!), something felt sort of missing. My sister and girlfriend (both longtime attendees as well) both noticed it as well. It could have been the lack of the Fog smell we are now so used to, or the fact that there wasn't very much fog at all. The past few years Coney Mall has been something you can barely see in when walking, which I always thought added to the atmosphere of the night. To add to that, the combo of the fog and the scare actors is a fundamental of a good Haunt night. I think I saw maybe 10 scare actors around the park the whole night, and when they were around, they were either talking to each other or walking (not scaring). Everything else looked great. Action Zone had some life in it for the first time in years, and the decor around the park (music included) was awesome (Phantom Theater characters made me happy/sad to see). I'll chalk the lack of scaring the crap out of my 13 year old cousin up to being the first night, but hopefully someone or something gets us next time. Rides ran great! I'll be going back this Friday so I'll update then. Also planning on next Sunday (the 30th), and maybe the KIC Haunt night on the 5th.

The ironic thing is that, in my opinion, the WindSeekers look more "upscale"; meaning they look more solid, what with their tower's solid shell, and the fact the seats are connected by metal bars rather than chains. This is proof that looks can be deceiving. I do hope that these issues are solved though, I actually thouroughly enjoy WindSeeker (even more so when I'm confident I won't be spending the night on it).

I am, yes.

Bigger is not necessarily better.

Agreed. Particularly in an election year, Cedar Fair should be more savvy than implying only Democrats are frightening.

I consider myself a hardcore enthusiast in real life. I know much much more than the average Joe. But some of you know much more than I do. As for the forums, I mostly enjoy reading other peoples posts and learning!

2010 Two new attractions were added to Halloween Haunt in 2010. Wolf Pack (Son of Beast Station) - A haunted house that toured guests through a forest and into a creepy cabin, avoiding the werewolves that stalked them. Included an on-ride photo at the start. --- Half-Pint Brawlers (Festhaus) - Midget wrestling with an excessive amount of blood. Featured ring-side seating for an additional $10. --- --- Returning attractions were Slaughterhouse, Hot Blooded, Cut-Throat Cove, Urgent Scare, Cemetery Drive, Club Blood, Tombstone Terror-tory, Death Row, Trail of Terror, CarnEVIL, Massacre Manor and CornSTALKERS. Ghouls Gone Wild continued performances during the day, but ceased showings during the Haunt hours. Urgent Scare's on-ride photo was moved from the beginning of the house to the end. Club Blood received a new sign. The Beast was "hauntified" with the addition of fog and a "beast" monster. Halloween Haunt 2010 Entrance Display (via KI facebook) 2011 The most recent year for Halloween Haunt and a decent-sized one in terms of expansion. Holiday Horror (Peanuts Playhouse) - A haunted house themed to miscellaneous holidays, including Christmas, Halloween and St. Patrick's Day. Included an "on-ride photo" at the start. Nightmare Alley (Planet Snoopy) - A new scare-zone populated by carnival freaks Mysteria (Red Barn) - A rename and rethemeing of the former Death Row. Featured new lighting effects and an extensive use of Morphsuits. Fright Lane - Not an actual attraction, but instead a new service available to park guests. For an extra fee, visitors were able to shorten their wait for every haunted house/trail. Returning attractions were Club Blood, Wolf Pack, Slaughterhouse, Cut-Throat Cove, Massacre Manor, Urgent Scare, Tombstone Terror-tory, CarnEVIL, Hot Blooded and Half-Pint Brawlers. Trail of Terror did not return. Boo Blasters on Boo Hill remained open during the event and received at least four actors hidden through-out the ride and exit. Cemetery Drive was expanded from Tower Gardens to all of International Street as part of a new scare-zone. Included in this was a minor new attraction, "Buried Alive", with an upcharge of $5. CornSTALKERS was relocated to Tower Gardens. Urgent Scare lost its outdoor segment and its on-ride photo. Club Blood received a new paint job. --- ------------------------------------------------------- - 2012 A new haunted house and several new scare zones were added, as was a new dining experience and a new show. Madame Fatale's Cavern of Terror (The Crypt) - A wax museum style haunted house. Utilized various props from Phantom Theater and The Crypt. On-ride photo included at beginning. Madame Fatale's Dead Inn Feast (The Crypt) - A unique dining experience hosted before the start of Haunt and housed in the former antechamber / preshow rooms of The Crypt. Nightmare Alley (Pathway between International Street and Action Zone) - A generic scare zone with an extensive use of eyeballs. Freak Street (Planet Snoopy) - A new name for 2011's Nightmare Alley. Grimm Blvd. (Action Zone) - A steam punk fairy tale style scare zone Death Drums (Action Zone Water Tower) - A unique music show. Returning attractions were Slaughterhouse, Club Blood, Wolf Pack, Cut-Throat Cove, Massacre Manor, Mysteria, Urgent Scare, CornSTALKERS, Tombstone Terror-tory, CarnEVIL, Holiday Horror, Cemetery Drive, and Hot Blooded. Half-Pint Brawlers did not return, enabling Graveyard Shift to be performed during Haunt hours. Cut-Throat Cove was reversed, placing the entrance near Sling Shot and allowing Viking Fury to remain open at night. The queue was reworked for Tombstone Terror-tory so that guests would enter through the White Water Canyon entrance. -------------------------------- So yep. I may get around to editing and expanding this, but that's the basics right there Hope you enjoyed; feel free to leave a question or comment.

First, reading some of these posts makes me feel so old, lol. I grew up with a father who loved roller coasters. I, however hated them until I was 10 or 11. My first was the Scooby Doo (Beastie, Fairly Odd Coaster, Woodstock Express),when I was 4, and as a youngster I was forced onto all the coasters by my dad. The one coaster he never got me on (and I seriously regret this now) was The Bat. My first looper was Screamin' Demon (later, just Demon). I got the fever when we went to Geauga Lake and Sea World and I rode the Double Loop. Once I rode it, I was hooked. My oldest didn't like coasters until he rode Vortex, then he became a rider. My middle child is not much of a rider, though he keeps saying he will ride. Surprisingly, something always comes up. My 3-year-old daughter is a rider. She finally got to ride Woodstock Express. took her front seat for her first ride. She LOVED it. She would ride it over and over again if she could. She also very badly wants to ride the "loopty-loop" (Vortex). She just has 8 more inches to grow, lol.

Holiday Horror was, once again, by far my favorite. It's a clever concept and just feels like they went the extra mile with decorations. I saw Obama and possibly Romney in the election area. The Easter bunny was present, too. Mysteria... *sigh* I really wanted to like it. I gave it another chance after last year's experience. It's essentially the same. There were some caged prop monsters that I didn't remember from last year, but I might have missed them at the time. The people we were grouped with didn't seem to care for it, either. Madame Fatale was well worth the wait. They went all out on props and it was cool to walk the grounds of a room I had only ever seen upside down.

Agreed. Particularly in an election year, Cedar Fair should be more savvy than implying only Democrats are frightening. Pretty sure Reagan got me on Friday... I know they are only going by the calender, and they aren't trying to be political, but that's also a reason to have both sides. Who knows? George Washington with an ax could be lurking around. Last year Bill Clinton had the misfortune of leaping out right in front of my neice, the only thing I could think of was "Not her, you don't!" I hope he got the humor of that. If it were any other president, the thought wouldn't have entered my head. Bausch and Lombe used to have a good eyedrop solution, I don't know if they still make it, I no longer wear contacts. Fair warning, anytime you are in a situation where say, the residue of something like fog can get in your eyes, sometimes drops can only make it worse, it a gross way. They could have Clint Eastwood and an empty chair. That could be good...

My very first coaster was the now defunct "Roller Coaster" at the equally defunct Riverview Park in Des Moines, Iowa.

I was there and I've never seen it that busy, either. Luckily, my group found some seating next to the Scrambler to get a front-row view of the fireworks. I only managed to get in two rides that night, but had fun anyway. Walking through the party in the pool was surreal. I'd go again if this event returns next year.

Here: added for emphasis Did you mean for 2013? If so, you should be more clear as to what you meant.

There is no inside joke. You found out about this the same way I did, by reading it here. Terp, who means what he says and says what he means.

I think that number is a little different now: WindSeeker- 00 riders, Starflyer- 24

Went to the park today. This is all you can see from Flight Deck.

Speaking of Mack Rides...... This coaster looks like it would be very cool to see at Kings Island.

...and closed with the rest.

Beast's double helix. All day.

2005 The park added five new "attractions", alongside returning a former one. The Curse of Sleepy Hollow (Rivertown) - An overlay for all of Rivertown, featuring the Headless Horseman CornSTALKERS (Pathway between Italian Job and Swan Lake) - A scare-zone populated by evil scarecrows that ruled the overgrown ruins of the Van Tassel Farm. Included an abundance of mannequin scarecrows and performers, creating a "what's real?" dilemma for park guests --- Headless Hollow (KI & MV Railroad and White Water Canyon Exit) - A nighttime train ride that led into a walk through the dark forest. Featured the Headless Horseman and various other creatures. Midway through the trip, the train would supposedly "break down" and guests were required to make the trek back to civilization. --- R.L. Stine Fear Street Nights (Rock Shop Building) - A haunted house with inspiration from horror writer R.L. Stine. Featured many similarities to the former House of Darkness. Elvira's Superstition (Paramount Action FX Theater) - Same attraction as 2001-2003. The queue included props and pieces from two defunct rides - Antique Cars and Phantom Theater. --- Massacre Manor (Temporary Tent) - The former Sleepy Hollow Horror under a new name. --- The Gauntlet (Pathway near Sling Shot) - A very minor scare-zone added several weeks into FearFest. Consisted of bloody sheets suspended from walls and a collection of cargo netting. Returning attractions were Circus of Horrors 3D, Maze of Madness, Psycho Path and Friday the 13th. House of Darkness was replaced by R.L. Stine Fear Street Nights. Curse of the Crypt did not return. FearFest ran for 9 nights in 2004. Additional FearFest 2005 Photos - KIC Additional FearFest 2005 Photos - KIE