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You really ought to let your kid ride Invertigo to be able to try it out for himself. What may be too intense for you might not be the same for your kid. If I didn't do anything my mother couldn't/wouldn't do (anything that is jerky or spins), I would have missed out on The Beast, Adventure Express, Invertigo, and Vortex. Let him get the lay of the land and boundaries can be more appropriately set.

Yes, I don't recommend it...

Those are some mighty big footers going in. More like lift hill footers. I'm going tomorrow morning, I'll have to check them out in person. Has any body every tried taking a picture through the telescopes on the ET?

He's a magic eight ball.

Because...you know...300 ft drops at near vertical angles at 90+ mph are SO family friendly. And btw, giga's have high g forces as well. Just sayin'.

High capacity rides appear to have shorter lines. Low capacity rides appear to have longer lines.

Massive changes are coming soon. There will be much more room for the park and associated opportunities for revenue generation.

Top Thrill Dragster: 1,000 pph Blue Streak: 1,400 pph Intimidator 305: 1,350 pph Flight of Fear: 2,000 pph Cheetah Hunt: 1,370 pph Kumba: 1,700 pph Capacity is much more complex than you think. You must not have been to a year round park before. Visit any of the parks in Florida and then tell me about Top Thrill Dragster's stellar theming. I'm not saying that the Cedar Fair coasters are inferior for their lack of theming, but putting a full sized aquarium in the queue (Manta) or running the coaster in reverse to imitate a chase scene (Revenge of the Mummy) certainly don't hurt.

I find it funny she doesn't want an intense invert yet asks for a "family friendly" giga or blitz.

Newbie here - Can we assume that this mysterious green track was seen heading southbound on I71 in Columbus? And now can we assume that track was heading to Kentucky Kingdom for their reopening in 2014? Kentucky Kingdom is accessible from Columbus via I71 and I65. Is this a safe assumption? I do not know where any Intamin warehouses are, but Kentucky Kingdom is a very logical alternative for the track if not Kings Island because one would pass Kings Island when traveling this route.

Off Hand, but couldnt XBase expand behind Firehawk and KI can add a couple new addtions to that section? But for now, bathrooms in X-Base would be very much appreciated.

It's sad that nobody can joke around on here without someone saying something.

Much like Flight of Fear, the "third" train is rehabbed during the current regular season to get ready for the next season. For example: trains 1 and 2 run in 2013, while train 3 is rehabbed. In 2014 trains 2 and 3 may run while train 1 is rehabbed and the pattern follows for the next years. Although it should be noted that the trains currently running are always labeled "1" and "2," but have weld marks indicating their "real" numbers. While running three trains, the ride does get increased capacity, but if the crew doesn't move fast enough that third train "sets up" on the second lift. Apparently constant set ups were causing too much stress on the lift hill motor. Even the best crews can get delays in the stations.

Before I start, I must say this is all just opinion. Okay. Here's how I do Diamondback every time. Get on back seat on the left. Leave about an inch between the lap bar and your waist. Keep hands and feet up during entire ride. Turn around. Watch the track fly by behind you throughout ride. Smile for the Camera. Look at the water shoot during the splashdown. Get soaked. Looking Backwards on this ride is the most terrifying thing you can encounter in the entire park. (Especially on the first drop) Don't believe me? Try it. As for Vortex, try back seat blindfolded. Holy crap it's fun. But enough of my opinion. How do you ride the coasters at KI? (or anywhere else) Any special techniques?

For more pictures of Greezed Lightnin' Deconstruction check out these pictures I found earlier....They were posted on Theme Park Review by Midgetman82 so all photo credit goes to him and only him. (I am not a member of ThemeParkReview.com) (All photo credit goes to the photographer Midgetman82 from ThemeParkReview.com, I did not take the pictures, he did.) For these pictures and more....http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1331362#p1331362

I still think a giga like Millennium Force would be more family-friendly than a headache invert.

I wa there that day it was really crowded. I was ****ed bc it was Tuesday but had Saturday crowd. It was weird in a way bc I do remember backlot was packed but like Vortex wasn't. I totally believe that flight deck could had been that packed after seei ng backlots que. it was like people there wasn't riding anything big. I'm glad flight deck is getting attention.

I like the idea of expanding behind X-Base. And I love the idea of adding restrooms back there. Currently you have to walk pretty far in order to get to the nearest one and having one there would be really convenient. Anyone who has been at the park recently and has gone on Eiffel Tower, how are footers progressing?

Ode to the Shuttle Loop Coaster.... "There was a time, there was a place When this ride's technology set the pace. ... The simple drop of a forty-ton weight Jerked riders forward - from zero to 58. A run of straight track vaulted riders into a loop; Some became queasy, while others whooped. Fans would come from near and far For the thrill of riding in the front car. The 70's and 80's were her prime; She was a great coaster for her time. Everything has a season; everything has a reason, And today, when we must finally tell her so long. We promise you this - her spot won't be empty for long. R.I.P. The Shuttle Loop Coaster 1978 - 2009 AKA: Greezed Lightnin’ Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom 2003-2009 AKA: Viper Six Flags Over Georgia 1995 - 2001" ( https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=605729856127857&set=a.599973010036875.1073741827.150584424975738&type=1&theater )

So you believe Flight Deck to be a fail? I respectfully disagree.

Just because you see land doesn't mean it is necessarily buildable. Still, Cedar Point needn't worry about land availability as a planning constraint for many years to come. Especially given what's planned to alleviate that...soon.

O_o Well this thread got rather awkward rather quickly....

Cedar Point is not running out of space. People have thought that for decades. They will continue to innovate with the space they have, like they've been doing.

Life's too short to be in constant worry and paranoia. Think of each day like it's your last and make the best of it. Do what you want to do. Go where you want to go. Say "I love you" to the important people in your life. Focus on the positives and don't bear a burden of thinking bad thoughts. If someday you encounter an act of terrorism, know that there would have been nothing you could have done to stop it. When you're running through the garden, look at the beautiful flowers, not at the ugly weeds. You know the weeds exist, but to live a fulfilling life, move on from thinking the worst. Yes, you should always be on your toes ready for action in case something does happen, but just have fun and accept all life has to offer. Be thankful that a personal encounter with a terrorist attack has a very low probability in this wondrous, free country while people in the Middle East constantly wonder if each step they take will be their last. Don't grow old and look back on your life and have regrets that you didn't do something or go somewhere only because of a nagging, uncalled for worry. Live life to its fullest--no matter what--and have no regrets.

I've never had a problem riding inverts. I just sit back and relax.

In an ironic twist, before its removal, Greezed Lightning was the tallest coaster at Kentucky Kingdom once Chang left for SFGadv. That title is now held by T2, which means for at least the 2014 season, KK's tallest roller coaster will be SBNO- unless the new-for-2014 coaster is taller. Given that the park has stated the location of the new coaster will be GL's old spot, I cannot help but think...the Intamin Impulse KK never got under Six Flags could finally cometh?

Beast1979- I see some bunk with a few of those capacity numbers: Official capacity numbers, in many cases, are complete and utter bonk. For example, both from Kings Island: Firehawk- 1,430 riders per hour capacity Beast- 1,200 riders per hour Uhh, yeah, that's not right at all, for obvious reasons- A 1 hour wait for Beast would actually probably be more like a 3+ hour wait for Firehawk. Also, Flight of Fear pulling 400 more riders per hour than Diamondback? Maybe when it ran 4 trains (Rcdb says it once did) but now that it's only running two (and with only 5 cars per train to boot), no way. If it did, it would be one of those rides with a 30-minute wait or less on a super-crowded day... These capacity numbers are also complete estimates, and many factors are not taken into account. As a rule of thumb though, a coaster with at least 3 large (7-car+ or several 6-riders-per-car) trains, and some means (like a MCBR or something) to send a second train out when another is already on the course, that doesn't take forever to load/unload will have good capacity. If a ride is fairly short, like Flight Deck, 2 trains can do pretty well too. Rides that take forever to load/unload (Flying & Stand-Up Coasters) and rides with tiny trains that can only hold a few riders (like Wild Mice, BLSC) will have long lines. Capacity is one area where I would not 100% trust what most manufacturer's claim it is. My two cents on the whole capacity topic, which I may be a bit late to...

^Hopefully more holes for more footers to go into.

Like I said, it is just my opinion that gigas feels much less intense than inverts. Obviously none of those options are truly "family friendly", but as a mom of a kid who loves Diamondback, I'd be less inclined to take him on an intense invert. They just have always seemed to do a number on me and I don't like the feeling of intense pressure the entire ride. I haven't let him go on Invertigo for that reason and we all know how short that one is. Again, just my silly opinion .

It's funny you say this. Many others on this site would argue that the "family oriented" thing to do would be to build the invert and not the giga. But I completely agree with you. Inverts are more intense than gigas IMO. It was actually what I was thinking this whole time, but never could find the right words to put it.

^ Everytime someone says twisty I think of that guy "and the ride is twissttyyy weeeee twisttyyyy". I completely agree with you. I much prefer Maverick/Giga type rides, but Ill be happy with whatever!

I passed by the fairgrounds this morning on the way to a flea market and noticed that GL is gone... at least you cannot see any remaining portions of it from the interstate.

If they do remove cedars and golds, eh ok, I'd feel bad for individuals without vehicles like our international employees. Also if they do this they need to add to the employee dorms off point now then too. If they're ganna go that far they need a serious renovation and whatnot..old crappy buildings, little to no WiFi, bed bugs, terrible bathrooms, ect. I'd love to see the investment and hope it happens soon as cedars is ganna fall over here sooner or later if someone leans on it wrong.

Let me get this straight. On Tuesday, July 2nd 2013, Flightdeck had a 40 minute wait? That's extremely hard for me to believe! Jr... who waited 40 minutes to ride DB tonight and then decided to marathon Flightdeck and Racer soon after. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying....I didn't look at the time, but it sure felt like 40 minutes. It may have only been 25 to 30, but it felt like 40. Either way, it was still the longest I have ever waited for Flighdeck.Unfortunately I couldn't see anything new in the construction area from it.

Plans change from time to time. Just keep watching and listening. Cedar Fair's in great hands, and building the future is exciting!

I think we can assume that there was no green Intamin track, until green Intamin track shows up elsewhere. But why worry about it? Also, welcome to KIC!

So reading their Facebook, there are several people who are pretty tiffed off that Greezed Lightning is being torn down. I understand the memories that were made on the coaster but many are over looking the whole fact that the ride was determined to not be on the rehab list due to the fact that it is beyond repair. Why would they save the ride to just sit there if they can't reopen it?

Welcome aboard!

Hi! I am new here, though I have been visiting KI since I was in my mother's womb (literally, she rode The Racer when she was 7 months pregnant with me back in 1981). I have been following this thread since late May when my family visited KI and I noticed they were building something where SOB used to be. My internet research led me to this forum. I really don't have enough knowledge to speculate on what the new ride is, but I wanted to say that I am disappointed to see that the majority here seem to think this will be an invert. Personally, I have found most inverts that I have ridden to be very uncomfortable and disorienting. I love thrill rides and love sharing the experience with my 10 year old son, who is just now 54 inches. However, I would be hesitant to let him ride an intense invert, due to the force of all the positive Gs. It seems to me that an invert would go against the theory that CF wants to build rides that families can enjoy together. Maybe others don't share my opinion, but I'd rather take my kids on a giga coaster or a fun Maverick-style coaster, than on an intense inverted coaster. It seems if that is the direction they are going in, then they are catering to thrill seekers and not to families. That's just my 2 cents which probably isn't worth even that.

Afterburn has mist filled tunnels that are very cold in cooler weather. Does that count?

Not all rollercoasters can be as long as Diamondback or The Beast; variety is the spice of life, I'm guessing you're going to utimately enjoy whatever ends up being built. Next season's 2 hour wait will be 2019's 30 min wait as everyone lines up for KI attraction 2019. Personally, looking at all the footers in place currently, knowing what it replaced, knowing what the importance of this coaster means to not only the park in general, but that specific section of the park which has been "dead" for several years now that we're all mostly going to be happy with the announcement. If they hit a solid homer (not neccessarily a grand slam) this ride will breath new life into flight deck, congo falls, drop zone, etc... I'm guessing this isn't the only thing we see new in Action Zone over the next 5-10 years. I believe this is the start to redefining your experience at the park. Instead of entering the park and turning right towards The Beast or Diamondback, or perhaps going straight back to avoid Firehawk and Flight of Fear's long lines, you're now going to debate turning left toward the 2014 attraction, flight deck and rides coming down the road. I have no inside information; but my gut tells me this is going to be transformative. I also think its why all signs point to it being a B & M, the need something reliable and trust worthy. To continue the baseball analogy from above, it doesn't have to be a grand slam, but something the general public is going to look forward to riding each trip to the park. Diamondback wasn't a grand slam, the 200' mark had long been past, its a similar style ride that many enthusiast had been on before, but it was exactly what the park needed to breath new life into the park. It was a solid homer and remains so today.

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I have never had a vomit smell after getting wet on the ride, walking by the pond, or going through. If we wanna speak dirty water, don't even get me started on the Log Flume at Camden Park, that water reaaaaaakkkkkks!

Son of Beast was big and tall and made a statement.

Or a Brady Bunch theme.... Come to think of it, if it were a Brady Bunch themed coaster, and we named the three trains after the Brady girls then we could all ride......never mind. Can I claim dibs on Marsha..... oh wait, never mind.

As Much as I like this, This Coaster design has way to much of a thing called "Theming"... And we all know Cedar Fair's Attitude towards that... or rather, their Lack of attitude.. Can we really say that about Cedar Fair now?.... Lets give the company a few more years and see how the theming at the parks goes......Because so far, Matthew has the parks and the company headed in a good direction. Just remember.... Out with the Kinzel - In with the Ouimet...

Not every tweet by KingsIslandPR is about what they're building for the future. Kings Island's forecast today includes a lot of sun. You need to read my post a little closer. I was being sarcastic, reason for the LOL! I was poking fun at everyone who thinks every tweet is about the new attraction.

I hear screams... Ah! I think my bones just chilled!

The Missouri ad placement is priceless.