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Marketing experiences is better than marketing stats in my opinion. Disneyland and Walt Disney World are both marketed as “The Happiest Place on Earth” and “The Most Magical Place on Earth.” Cedar Point is often marketed as “A Place Like No Other.” These types of titles emphasize the experience rather than statistics. If you apply that same idea to Kings Island, you could have: Kings Island: Where Fun Reigns The message stays intentionally broad, but in a good way. When a park claims to be the biggest or the best, people often rush to critique those claims. A phrase like this focuses on the feeling of the place instead of something that can be easily disputed.

Totally. I’d really love to see something akin to the original facade, but I’m hoping this is more of a situation where they feel like this is more of an opportunity to build off of what they have as opposed to any type of budgetary constraints. Mentioned this elsewhere, but I feel like adding something similar to the original marquee would go a long way in taking this from a castle to a theater, amongst a few other changes.

Im a visual person too though Im also a writer. I love making drawings and such too as well as the likes of new haunted houses, dark rides, roller coasters, and more for my Minecraft theme park resort home to over 110 roller coasters!

If it means more budget for the actual ride experience/show, I think it’s worth it to update what’s there. But yeah, an original facade would be preferable. Guess we’ll see. Ultimately, I’d say what’s inside the building will matter more.

Appreciate it! I’m a visual person, so I had to take a bit of time to obsess over what it could look like. Haha. Can’t wait to see what the finished product is.

Not sure what they are doing to the entrance...wish they'd just knock the dang castle down and put up an original facade

Thank goodness! The end of the ride was horrible last summer when I was at Holiday World for 4 days. Rode it 2 times on that trip. I think the second time was rougher. Most of the coaster is plenty smooth to me and then, you know.

That sounds like a cool slogan! Someone should do something with that LOL

To be frank, this is the first time I have ever had any Phantom Theater dreams as far as I recall XD.

Totally get this. Hahaha. Just one more month and maybe we’ll be able to sleep again normally.

This ride already has tons of capacity. I don't see any way they increase it. In fact, when I visited last summer, I remember thinking that I don't think they could have made the ride more efficient.

I am delighted to see this. I love how you clearly put time into this and just how great it looks!

I just woke up after THREE back to back strange dreams featuring weird versions of the new Phantom Theater that are absolutely almost nothing like what the ride experience is going to be like. The first two focused on the ride experience while the third was a queue walk through but got cut off due to my alarm going off. The first two also had a really fast spinny part in the ride which makes no sense for obvious reasons. My excitement for Phantom Theater: Opening Nightmare runs so deep its embedded within my pysche. As cool as some of what I saw in those dreams was, none of it is what I will actually see on ride. Ive never had 3 back to back dreams about something specific before nor dreams about an upcoming attraction before. This is something I think some of the teams at KI and Sally would love hearing about.

The private equity ownership is the problem. Hill Path Capital owns 49.7% of the company, creating significant influence and putting greater focus on share buybacks and driving value. The ownership structure of private equity means that any losses from this lawsuit will go against United Parks, not against Hill Path Capital. At least I think that's how it works, but unlike the other cases I've heard about, this isn't a leveraged buyout. Still, the priority is financial gain for Hill Path, not for United Parks. Customers don't matter. Employees don't matter. Only the shareholders matter. If the parks go downhill (and they will), possibly even bankrupt, Hill Path Capital may just sell off the remains while keeping the profits they made from stripping apart the parks. Private Equity has a large (and incomplete) list of bankruptcies on Wikipedia, and I wonder if United Parks could eventually join it.

My friend, that may be true, but I can assure you I’m still crazy.

I normally go to Coaster Stock every year, but this year I'm skipping it because I'm getting married about the same time that they usually have it. Although I'm still following whether or not they're having it this year anyway. If they decide to water it down like they did with Coaster Mania, I'll be very disappointed when it comes to planning it for next year.

My suspicion is that the law suit will force United to pay then things will go on like always. This isn’t the first time they’ve stopped paying bills just to see how far they could push it—I’ve seen that before (granted, at least then the pandemic could be blamed)

I think you could do quite a bite with the existing facade to make it work. The castle dental molding should go, as well as the turret style features (which they seem to be addressing now). A lot of the existing colors in the art design (from what we’ve seen) could be incorporated into what’s there. Mocked up this concept over the last few days to try and visualize what it could be. Not sure how it would work, but I’d really love to see some kind of marquee added to the front inspired by the original: Excited to see what they do.

This thread is being closed. There is no need to go back and fourth with definitions that servers no real purpose on the forums.

^ Given that, why use it in marketing the park/ rides etc.?

Biggest and largest doesn’t move the needle. Experiences that are worth repeating do.