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Unless they are looking at another part of the car, the way the L brackets work with the prox switches, the bracket would be on the very front & very back of the train.

It will very interesting to see the final investigation from ODA. Some of my thoughts: I have dealt with L brackets with flat head cap screws and prox switches. The L bracket is simply a piece of angle iron. The flat head cap screw typically have a hex opening to have the screw end go into a threaded opening. The prox switches are very lightweight so they can be easily moved and many simple piece of plastic covering over the "sensor" part. This plastic covering has zero strength to it and can be easily snapped off using a couple fingers (these prox switches are part of the reason TTD is down often). Knowing how the bracket works with the switches if it was loosening over time, the prox switches would have likely not sensed the bracket shutting the ride down well before the accident. It's difficult to see the c'sinks 100% but there does not appear to be many dings/ dents on the c'sinks themselves- if there were it would suggest the L bracket was loose for a good amount of time and the screws were loosening up as the bracket would have been banging between the train & angled underside of the FHCS. The bend suggest bracket took one big jolt shearing off the FHCS. The previous press release from ODA did say there were half the bolts came off (the other halves would have been still threaded in the train). When the final report of the accident comes out, it will be interesting to see where damaged track is located- was it only on the brake run or did something cause the train to be misaligned on the launch side just enough to have the L bracket come in contact with an object moving the bracket to the point where one of the FHCS sheared off the launch and the other FHCS sheared off on the brake run that damaged more of the track & brake fins. Or I'm totally overthinking this and the FHCS were over-torqued from the start and finally the head failed due to constant vibration of the train being used (remember the wheel theming that came off on the brake run in 2003 that ended up in the water near ID?).

https://www.wkyc.com/article/entertainment/places/cedar-point/photo-shows-bracket-similar-to-one-that-injured-cedar-park-guest/95-d0d1828d-c419-4d98-80e1-52cb1fb2b253

I forgot it was sponsored by Encyclopedia Britannica. It was an after lunch relaxing ride in the A/C for our family. I remember there being many animals that were very active- pretty uncommon for a hot summer day. It seemed SO MUCH longer than 2 miles. Great memories!

I was excited earlier this summer when my daughter enjoyed Beast in 8+ years and said: "Dad, Beast is great. There is nothing else like it!" -Brown- proud father of an enthusiast daughter.

Pre-existing conditions was a term often thrown around when it came to injuries on SoB. What gets lost in the mix: people who enjoy rides often did so without incident or injury. Then they ride Do-Dodonpa or SoB and suddenly have an injury that gets chalked up as "pre existing". If they never had an injury until one particular ride, how does "pre existing" come into play?

It would be interesting to see the breakdown of each entities' seasonal park vs. year round parks as well as the breakdown of each park that was not able, opened late or could not open 100% due to the pandemic.

It would be interesting to see information on this concept.

Now that the age, victim's current location, hometown, and brief medical condition have been released, it certainly obsolves the PCN that has received much unnecessary hatred for trying to do the right thing and posting a Cedar Point incident report. Now the concentration needs to be focused on how the "mangled" parts came to be as the catch car has been questioned on how it may have "caught" the train off-center on the launch which resulted in a part of the train getting bent and hitting the L bracket off center on the brake run.

How does Gemini come into this conversation?

So the frustrating four play is eliminated with thrill of the ride climax? Gotcha!

No reason to include car mechanics as they cannot move a gas tank due to the design on the car. https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a6700/top-automotive-engineering-failures-ford-pinto-fuel-tanks/

^ And that is very unfortunate as the same methods of selling passes were done in fall of 2020. All 3 Sea World Parks & entertainment coasters that were anticipated to open in 2021 have not opened with two of them officially pushed to 2022. All 3 have different manufacturers but look to have the same result of not operating in 2021.

Makes you wonder if this will open in 2021.

The rest of the accelerator coasters may be the same type of coaster, but possibly be a different design on the brake run. It should also be noted that the other accelerators operating does not mean they were not given extensive inspection after hours. The rumored angle iron that struck the victim is merely a support device. There has been no clear indication that any type of brake exploding. We only know that a part came off on the brake run.

The article is from a website who has a definition of: "Exposing midlevel incompetence in the fight to ensure patient safety and preserve physician-led, physician-supervised medicine." Needless to say, objectivity in sites like this is not their strong suit. It's very similar to, but on opposite side of the spectrum of Sandusky Register. Each has an agenda and both show more concern for that agenda then that of the victim. It is most definitely an Intamin issue and their history of safety is just not good. Even though TTD has been with the park for sometime, it is still designed & engineered by Intamin. It's like trying to convince us the the issue with the Ford Pinto was on the automobile owner and not the design & engineering of Ford. It needs to be noted that given there has not been any information released on the victim- and that can be a positive thing that it appears to be recovery rather than decline.

Nurse practitioner that helped the victim and wrote the posted Cedar Point incident report: https://www.wfmj.com/story/44532804/canfield-nurse-practitioner-helps-cedar-point-woman-injured-by-top-thrill-dragster

She knew knew her career was not on the line and as seen in the video on how she was treated, had good reason to make sure the truth was out their. HIPAA has been inaccurately used for some time- even trying to use it as a threat. Hopefully with this discussion it will educate some on what HIPAA is meant to cover. In the spirit of safety-I hope the picture & story are not true, but those preaching about being ethical now have a real target.

This was reportedly posted on a news page. This is supposed to be what flew off TTD. A guest picked it up and said they were keeping it. If true, this would definitely squash some of the cover up rumors, but dang....who would ever keep such a thing and impede an investigation?? EDIT: link to article describing the part below: https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/08/18/conflicting-stories-after-cedar-point-accident-leaves-guest-seriously-injured/

Most state and law enforcement agencies are not required to follow HIPAA privacy rule. https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-att-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk003ajFU0yKSX5R_Ssuy7QMGAMTgMg:1629348566058&q=final_hipaa_guide+law+enforcement.pdf&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRvvqzpLzyAhVNCc0KHbSTBP8QBSgAegQIARAC&biw=360&bih=666

I do not have a medical license, but have numerous immediate family members that do. Where some of the confusion seems to be at: police report that was completed by a nurse and posted by same nurse is considered a violation. But that same report can be requested and posted by anyone and it's not a violation? I'm all for agreeing to disagree. I would never argue ethics- too gray of an area with too many opinions. What I am about is being objective as to why she posted it for all to see.

She posted a Cedar Point incident report. There is a reason why she was able to get a copy of it as it contains no sensitive information. And posting such a report does not go against their certified board license or oath. Unfortunately what is still being lost in the mix is why she posted it. It is actually a breath of fresh air that what she put into words on the Cedar Point incident report match what the bodycam video shows. Too often this does not happen. Even in your post you put that she claimed to be an ER doctor, which is inaccurate. She did claim to have a medical degree, which is true of a nurse practitioner: https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001934.htm

It's a Cedar Point incident report very similar to any police report that any eye witness can, and should, complete with as much information as possible. The information provided was the condition of the victim and first aid provided. None have anything to do with private information and certainly has zero to do with HIPPA. Where many are upset are the comments the lady made that put the park respose to the accident, as well as very questionable actions, in a negative light. What sticks with me the most- the only people, out of the dozen+, the CP representitive wanted out of the area was the lady distraught over the lack of a c-collar and the person with the bodycam who was ordered to go back to Shores the very moment he arrived. If it was just the lady he wanted out of there- yes it could have easily been her reactions before we can see anything. But on the other hand....if she was causing such a disturbance, it would be in CP's best interest to have the video on hand showing everything- not for that person having the bodycam to be ordered away immediately.

The Ohio Good Samaritan law does protect those with a medical license in a emergency event outside a medical facility where proper medical equipment is unavailable. Now if she provided some type of treatment that was malicious in nature, that is a different story. The bodyboard can be administered toe to head as opposed to side to side. But as seen in the bodycam video, the backboard was not available as an option.

There absolutely has been many allegations. Your allegations concentrated on the lady and no allegations dealing with the park. Brown- always trying to be fair & objective.