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Her intent may have been to eliminate rumors. I'm not sure if either way would be a good decision.

^^ Her screaming in pain is actually a good thing as it shows somewhat normal brain activity. And please understand I am in NO WAY toning down the seriousness of the accident, just trying to point some things out and looking for any positive news.

@Kenban I cannot put into words how terrible this is- for everyone involved. I did not see the report you mentioned, but even thinking about it turns the stomach. I can only hope it is not as serious as it sounds, but am fearful it is exactly as it sounds. At this point, I do not see many differences between TTD and SoB. I also wonder if other Intamins with similar cars & breaking systems will also be shut down for thorough inspection.

There are so many possibilities on what happened. Was it a train failure? Track failure? Brake failure? Was it a lost personal item that became lodged in a brake fin and jammed in the bottom of the train? Any accident is terrible. Let's just hope that the injured will be ok moving forward. I do have full confidence that CP/ CF will investigate this thoroughly and appropriate corrective actions taken.

It's all about weather & height. Good, warm weather now vs. questionable cool/ cold & windy weather in the offseason. It should be at least 50 degrees when painting- and that is for normal household paint (the paint used on outdoor fixtures like this may need different temperature requirements). Combine that with winds a couple hundred feet the ground can make for some sketchy work (no way I would ever want to even try it & kudos to those that do!).

The issues with BB have been going on for some time now. I makes me wonder if there is a reason why repairs have not been done. EV- 1972 to 1983 SEV- 1984 to 1991 (20 years with same layout) PT- 1992 to 2002 SDatHC- 2003 to 2009 BBoBH- 2010- ? (30 years with same layout) When KI opened in 1972, EV was the most expensive attraction for the park at $1.5 million.

I have heard about this a few times and have always questioned the validity of it. I don't understand why a roller coaster manufacturer would agree to, what is basically a non-compete, not add their product to another park? If there were such a deal, the last B & M at BGW was in 2007, so is the deal forever?? The proximity of Sea World in TX to SFT also comes into question. The logistics of such a deal is mind boggling.

https://ir.cedarfair.com/news/news-details/2021/Cedar-Fair-Unveils-Exciting-Plans-for-2022-Operating-Season-Including-Upgraded-Safari-Village-Area-at-Kings-Dominion-50th-Anniversary-Celebration-at-Kings-Island-Fun-Filled-Seasonal-Events-and-Upgraded-Lodging-and-Dining-Venues/default.aspx Cedar Fair Unveils Exciting Plans for 2022 Operating Season, Including Upgraded Safari Village Area at Kings Dominion, 50th Anniversary Celebration at Kings Island, Fun-Filled Seasonal Events and Upgraded Lodging and Dining Venues August 12, 2021 SANDUSKY, Ohio--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Cedar Fair Entertainment Company (NYSE: FUN), a leader in regional amusement parks, water parks and immersive entertainment, today announced exciting plans for the 2022 operating season across all of its properties in the U.S. and Canada. These include a new themed area at Kings Dominion in Virginia, the reopening of two newly refurbished resort properties at Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio, and the 50th anniversary celebration at Kings Island in Mason, Ohio. In addition, Cedar Fair plans to introduce several new and upgraded dining venues and to expand its popular festival and event calendars to include something for everyone in the family throughout the year. “We’re in the business of making people happy, and we are actively investing in our parks to help us deliver the type of fun, immersive experiences that our guests crave and our associates love to provide,” said Cedar Fair President and CEO Richard A. Zimmerman. “Based on positive recent trends and our renewed confidence in the recovery of the business, we now plan to invest between $175-$200 million for the 2022 season to improve the guest experience at our parks. These investments include ongoing renovations at the Castaway Bay and Sawmill Creek resort properties at Cedar Point, as well as the addition of new rides, attractions and guest amenities across our parks in the U.S. and Canada.” Zimmerman said consumer research continues to reinforce the significance of food and beverage (F&B) and the high-quality menu options Cedar Fair parks offer as essential components of delivering a memorable park experience. As such, the company is investing aggressively for the 2022 season as part of the next phase of significant development in its F&B lineup. Under this plan, Cedar Fair is upgrading and expanding F&B facilities across its portfolio, with new chef-inspired restaurants opening at several parks. The focus is on providing signature menu and beverage items that tap into consumers’ interest for unique flavors and experiences they can’t find anywhere else. In 2021, Cedar Fair has added approximately 20 chefs to its park teams to accommodate the continued growth in its culinary program. In addition, these capital investments will improve the capabilities, technologies and efficiencies of the parks’ food preparation and delivery systems. Among the highlights of Cedar Fair's capital program for the 2022 operating season: Kings Dominion is renaming and upgrading the Safari Village area of the park and introducing a new roller coaster in 2022. The new area, Jungle X-Pedition, is set to an exotic archeological dig site and research facility, where explorers can visit the base camp for a bite to eat at a new signature restaurant and shop at an immersive retail location. Around the corner, guests can climb aboard Tumbili, a thrilling roller coaster that suspends riders on either side of the track as the cars flip continuously throughout the ride. Kings Island will celebrate 50 years of fun, memories and traditions. Guests will join the park in commemorating the landmark anniversary with limited time events, enhanced food offerings and all-new live entertainment – each telling the stories of Kings Island’s first 50 years and sure to delight all ages and create lasting memories. The park will announce more anniversary details in the coming months. Cedar Point’s full lineup of entertainment returns in 2022 with the popular Frontier Festival at the start of the season, Cedar Point Nights and the Celebrate Spectacular Parade during the heat of the summer and HalloWeekends in the fall. In addition, the park’s Frontier Town will introduce a new chef-inspired signature restaurant that is sure to delight guests throughout the season. On the resort front, the re-imagined Castaway Bay Indoor Waterpark hotel will welcome back families with all-new guest rooms, enhanced amenities, kid-friendly activities and a new take on dining, all intertwined with a whimsical theme that connects sea, land and air. 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Knott’s Berry Farm’s full Seasons of Fun lineup will return in 2022, kicking off with the return of the Peanut’s Celebration, an extended Boysenberry Festival in the spring, the return of Knott’s award-winning summer experience, Ghost Town Alive!, and the festive Knott’s Spooky and Merry Farm closing out the year. The Knott’s Berry Farm Hotel will also undergo a major renovation to its 300+ room onsite resort. Cedar Fair continues to invest millions of dollars into its two Schlitterbahn Waterpark properties in New Braunfels and Galveston, Texas. The enhancements for the 2022 season will focus on infrastructure and aesthetics throughout the park, including upgraded food locations and attractions. The planned projects will continue to improve the overall guest experience, while maintaining the unique character and iconic Schlitterbahn tradition that guests have treasured for more than 40 years. In addition, other Cedar Fair parks will offer a full lineup of seasonal events. 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This immersive holiday experience is filled with millions of lights, enchanting themes areas, ice-skating, live holiday entertainment, sweet and savory treats, and a variety of additional activities for the entire family. “Each season we introduce a full slate of new rides and attractions, limited-time special events, and upgraded food and beverage programs,” Zimmerman said. “As we’ve seen across all our parks this summer, consumers are hungry for more, and with season passes now on sale for 2022, we are ready to satisfy their growing appetites for entertainment and family fun.” For more information about 2022 season passes, please visit www.cedarfair.com and click on your favorite park property. About Cedar Fair Cedar Fair Entertainment Company (NYSE: FUN), one of the largest regional amusement-resort operators in the world, is a publicly traded partnership headquartered in Sandusky, Ohio. 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As much as I would love to see PT make a comeback. Other than KI enthusiasts, would the general public like to have the same experience of animatronics? PT was a great experience in 1992. In 2002- not so much. Curse of DarKastle at BGW was a great dark ride and utilized the: video, 3D, special effects and motion motion simulation technology of the time, but it's lifespan only lasted 2005-2017 due to high maintenance and operating costs and low ridership. Could CF make that same investment? Never say never, but given the recent history, it does not seem to be in the cards.

Your post is quite concerning as other parks: Hershey, BGW etc. are focusing more on food quality. What you have described is anything but quality. What is quoted above is worse. Going to guest services and receiving the blow off line "there is nothing we can do". You are guest services, there are many things you can do to help smooth the issue. It literally is your job! Not that it matters, but did you happen to take a pic of the "meal" served?

Watching the WT removal video, I see more than WT's last launch. I see something old becoming new again.

Interesting that the dreaded "end of service life" was not used.

There was some teasing at Winter Chill Out. I anticipate it is about a ride removal which will lead into the teasing of a new ride.

Intamin impulse vs. Vekoma boomerang Yeah, anything except Vekoma.....

"Mt. Rushmore" is so overused, the meaning often gets lost. The historical significance should mean more than biggest, fastest, newest or most popular. My OH coasters of significance: Racer Beast Magnum Millennium Force

Reading into this: I find it ironic that such information about a major ride being down for the rest of the season was followed up with "Major technical issues, it'll be down for a while." That quote alone makes me question the validity of the statement made. The ride being down the rest of the year is a major news whereas part of the ride getting re-tracked to reduce roughness (as the rumor goes) is very typical of wood coasters and the reason was not mentioned. As the saying goes: "those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know."

This is terribly sad...but.... If people being rude is going to stop anyone from going to the park, that person should really just stay home as "rudeness" is not just at KI- it's literally everywhere.

Cash is time consuming, promotes shrinkage, easily lost, and is crazy dirty (ever been to a club??). The cards are a welcome addition. I was skeptical when Waldameer went cashless with kiosks dishing out Wally Cards, but it has worked out incredibly well. KI has taken it a step further where the cards being handed out can be used anywhere. Speaking of clubs, imagine if they went cashless??

Waldameer in Erie went cashless a few years ago & it has gone much smoother than I ever thought it would. They deserve a ton of credit for bucking the trend & doing it good! ICYMI- Unless it's a holiday, Waldameer has no park entry fee. The Wally Cards used in lieu of cash are also used for ride entry so their system is used at every ride as well. Also remember- if the card system goes down it likely is an internet/ Wi-Fi issue and everything else is typically down as well.

Yes, at least one person.

There have been so many incidents, including violent, at parks over the past handful of years it is inappropriate to single out a specific chain/ park.

There have been numerous discussions across many fan sites about the increasing trend of line jumping over the past handful of years. Part of me thinks it may be due to Fast Lane opportunities at most parks. Full disclosure: I am not a Fast Lane supporter, likely due to being more "old school" but truly want to understand how other park enthusiasts feel about line jumping and the increased trends. Please let me know if another question should be asked!

There was a similar incident at Waldameer in Erie PA on Memorial Day. These incidents are becoming too common at parks over the past few years https://youtu.be/yRzY8iTO5m4

The chaperone policy on paper is one thing, properly implemented is another. We all saw what "mask police" have done during covid and the altercations that followed, now there will be "chaperone police" at a park? I would be very upset & quite miffed if some random guest accused my kid of not having/ needing a chaperone. Accusations don't make for a fun day. Not to mention the chaperone policy was implemented with the idea that the chaperone would not allow incidents like this to happen. In today's world, "adult" is more about how one acts than their actual age and many time those that are of adult age act worse than kids..... Whatever the park decides (and there is a good chance we will never officially hear about it), it cannot be a knee-jerk reaction. Simply adding more security isn't always the answer. Everyone knows that a video camera is in the pocket of most people and there are security cameras everywhere and in incidents that happened at KI still happen. Even with security present the incident continued. People no longer have any accountability for their actions and have zero respect for others or those people meant to keep the peace. Perhaps a slower, less obvious approach would be to have more communication/ radios between all employees to the powers that be. If security/ managers were made aware of incidents as they happen their presence in real time (as opposed to 10 minutes after) could be the deterrent needed. Even a step further would be to have those in a high-level position use a notebook/ iPad to review video with offenders. Perhaps a few big screens showing all the park security cameras with live video feeds at the park entrance as a reminder that big brother is always watching? I'm not sure if there are any perfect answers.

Faulting the park for people not being able to control themselves is incredibly unfair. There was a garage sale in my neighborhood this past Saturday. It's a nice subdivision with home values $200,000 to $350,000 Cars lined on both sides of the street. Moving cars could not pass by. Garage sale cars illegally parked in many driveways. Police had to block off both entrances to my subdivision from letting more cars enter. Then the fights started. And a stabbing....no joke. PGA Championship took place in South Carolina this past weekend. Crowd rushed Brooks Koepka and knocked him around causing more pain & injury to an already injured knee. Crowd was way out of control. We have all seen fights over stupid crap like facemasks, or those butthurt because their entitlement is not acknowledged by someone else. Road rage videos everywhere. There is one similarity of the above examples- no teenagers were involved. They are all adults committing these horrific acts. Covid has mentally affected many people negatively where social interaction was lost. Combine that with everyone's head in their phone for the past decade plus and it's not a massive surprise people have zero clue how to act socially. We all need to just be nice to each other. Not everything is meant or intended to be malicious. Agreeing to disagree and move on is SO MUCH easier than fighting like wild animals. There is no magic wand to solve all these issues and more rules and restrictions will only create more animosity. We all need to take a step back, breathe, and really ask ourselves- is getting mad over the little things really worth it and what is the endgame you are looking for by getting so uncontrollably mad?