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Is it just me, or is anyone else not surprised by the comments? FB gives people a voice w/o being confronted. Many comments fall into the "you can't fix stupid" catagory. Listening to those comments on FB and believing them is very close to listening and believing a certain site where people eScape from reality and Scream.

Getting the trains up to speed is not the issue as the park has parts on hand ready to go. The train parts have to be on hand since they are constantly changed during the season, and the trains are totally rehabbed in the off-season. Any park is not going to caught off guard and not have sac parts on hand, and, the parts are normally purchased in a mass quantity (i.e. order 10 instead of 1) to keep the cost down.

^ Wow, that sucks. I have been present for a workplace fatality, and I understand where you are coming from- the sight & sounds will never be forgotten. And in an attempt to make light of it: Can you let me know when you will be at the park? Thanks!

At least National Enquirer Screamscape has covered all the bases. In time, one of these will come true.... and then the others will disappear and Screamscape will look like a prophet again...

The point is that a reserved parking area is advertised as a pass "perk". The regular lot would be a lot more full if an employee was there turning the GP away from the area reserved for Gold/Platinum pass holders. I am guessing that a late afternoon parking lot employee is the easiest person to move to a different job due to call-offs.

I do sympathize with all involved, and I agree with your opinion. That said, you can't fix stupid. Are all victims to a tragedy like this stupid? No. I believe this incident was an innocent mistake that had a tragic ending. I am referring to those that break the rules by doing something stupid like attempting to stand on a coaster, or jump a fence surrounding a ride.

RVII POV:

^ How can it not be true? Mr. Kinzel said himself that for $20 million they could put in a "pretty good steel coaster." Paramount's $35 -$40 million plus CF's $8 million and now an estimate over $20 million for the TG treatment? SoB would then be the 2nd most expensive coaster on the planet.

If a person wants to do something like this, they are going to do it no matter what. I cannot blame a parent w/o knowing more details (child's age, where in the park- i.e. bathroom) etc. There are MANY assault cases where the assailant is a close relative. Are those cases a parent's fault too? Blame the responsible party, not a shoulda, coulda, woulda.

It looks like John!

I don't see a new leader pulling the trigger on a $20+ million project on a coaster that has had, at best, minimal success. There are too many other coaster projects that have been enormously successful for much less. A decision like this, right out of the gate, could end his/ her leadership very quickly. If a quote has already been submitted, the decision has already been made. Unless something MAJOR changes (i.e. CF wins a $200 million Powerball jackpot or steel prices drop by half), SoB's current status will not change with new leadership.

^ Or he simply misspoke. It happens.... Other than that- With any luck, this information will eliminate future rumors. (yeah, right)

Unfortunately, some complaints are valid and need to be dealt with accordingly. I have only had 2 complaints at any park: 1 @ CP for a rude go-cart operator & 1 @ BGW for a rude Alpengeist operator. Each time, I was offered free tickets for the next day (which I could not use anyway, but at least I was offered something).

That has always bugged me about the non-option of a shuttle from BE to the park. I did ask a manager at HB about that (since shuttle service is availableon the peninsula) and he told me it was simple- supply and demand. BE is typically 85% full without a shuttle, why have the added expense if it is not necessary? Although I personally don't agree, I understand the decision.

^ From a census purpose, I can understand. But from a geographical look, no way. Not to mention, suggesting a government site for accuracy? I'm not too sure about that!

^ Nice comments. You consider CP to be in the midwest?

I would absolutely LOVE to see the prints come back. Hey Don: Make it happen! Remembering stuff like that gets me all nostalgic....

The park will be crowded with Mayflies. Meh, they won't hurt you, unless you play for the Yankees:

Well done! All too often the comments are negative. It is a very good thing to point out the positves as well!

^ That is a good time to go as it is after school trips & before the heavy vacation season. I often do a late day Sunday & all day Monday with great success.

CF has people that are experienced & trained in business (unlike enthusiasts like you & me ) & have priced their food accrdingly to meet their financial demand (investors). I expect better food from Busch, Disney etc., and I do pay for it; just like I pay for some food at KI. When I have visited those parks recently, the prices were comparable (drinks) to KI, and more is most cases (food). Second guessing the prices is not much different than second guessing why certain safety policies are needed & enforced or why rides don't operate. Only a small handful know why & even less understand why.

My 10 year old daughter had no idea who Slider was, but when she spotted him at the Tribe game Sunday it was an immediate smile & "Daddy, I want a picture with THAT." I honestly believe people put WAY too much stock into the whole Peanuts vs. Nick thing. I have not heard a single child even close to mentioning: "No, I don't like them because I have no idea who they are." KI has also made the park look better than it has is quite some time using the Peanuts influence throughout the ENTIRE park- not just the kids' area. As far as pricing goes: try a baseball game. Hot Dog = $4, 20oz. soda (w/o lid & straw) $3.75, nachos = $6.75, bag of Cracker Jacks = $3.50, 16 Bud Light = $7.75, 20 oz. draft = $9.00. And all that was after 4 $50 tickets- and the game only lasted 2 hours & 21 minutes w/o the option of leaving the game & coming back in. Going to the movies is not a cheap date either with the same type of pricing. Consider other entertainment venues with inexpensive food pricing the exception & not the rule. Cutting the food prices in half will only cost the park more money. I'm sure that will make some laugh, but take a step back & look at the bigger picture. Businesses in the food service industry have to staff accordingly based on demand. If there was more people purchasing food, more employees would be needed & scheduled. If the typical food stand with today's prices on a Saturday needs 5 employees, cutting the price in half would necesitate 10 employees. Now if it rains for the first 3 hours of the day, those 10 employees would be standing around due to limited crowds. If the supervisor would let 1/2 go due to dead business, and then the sun miraculously appears- they are busy again & now understaffed. Not only are the guests ****ed about the wait, the employees sent home are also ****ed since they lose a days' pay and have them looking for a new & more stable job. The amount of food prepared falls into the same example. Cheaper price= more food prepared= possibility of more food thrown away due to limited amount of guests.

OK, it's official, you have more time on your hands than me!

^ Yeah, if you can hit the park on the holiday (or the day after in your case) the crowds are not too bad as many people are doing the "picnic" thing. They have offered decent fireworks for the 4th as well (not sure about this year). But the weekend after- yikes. I can only wish "Good Luck" . As far as ERT goes, if you see shorter lines on Friday around dinner or closing (if you are in line at close- you will ride- weather pending*) do it. That will ease the necessary rides to hit on Saturday. BE does offer WiFi: http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/park/resorts/hotels/breakers_express.cfm Just remember, a bad day at the park is still better than a good day at work!

With the exception of Halloweekeds in good weather, you will be at the park at the height of the busy season- especially on a Friday & Saturday. Maverick & MF will have 2+ hour waits. Use/ abuse ERT as the waits will be MUCH longer later in the day. HB does have WiFi & request the tower if $$ permits. Honestly, unless you cannot get vacation time later in the year, I would try & reschedule your vist to late August Sunday & Monday visit. The park will be crushed during your current plans. Good luck!