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Isn't KI taking a chance with every new ride/ event/ fireworks show? I haven't seen anything that suggests midget wrestling causes drunken brawls. If people sat around all day thinking up the most extreme outcomes to decisions, we would never get out of status quo for fear of what may, or may not happen. And how is KI making a quick buck on this event? Is there an upcharge for the event that I am unaware of?

Actually, it only takes one person to assault another guest. Two guests for a fight to begin. Intoxication has nothing to do with it. Unless, you are now going to claim you have to be intoxicated to fight? How do you know what resources are going to be used for an event that has yet to happen? Along with that, do you actually believe that the promoters for midget wrestling want to have a label of letting a crowd get out of control? As was stated before, the wrestlers/ actors depend on events like this for their livlihood. If these events continuously became out of control, venues like KI would not hire them thus they have no job. They have a greater sense of urgency to stop an altercation than KI does.

The article(s), the first one from Wiki , lead you to believe that a person in a bar drinking-or drinking period- is intoxicated, which is simply not true. Just because a person drinks, does not mean they are drunk. From a rough numbers standpoint: take a football event. If 50,000 people are drinking, I am willing to bet only 500 are actually drunk. That is only 1%. Now if there will be 500 people at the HH wrestling event, that 1% is now 5 people. I'm sure park security, and the promotion security, can handle 5 people. Your second article, is a joke. Of all the events serving alcohol WORLDWIDE, you quote one article. What about all the other events that serve alcohol and there are no issues?

I believe what is happening here is a issue that people have with many things. MF's novelty & "newness" has worn off for some people, just like Beast today compared to 1979. The coaster(s) has been hyped so much from so many people, when someone finally rides it for the first time, they are looking for something new and MF just doesn't have that feeling in 2010 compared to a coaster built recently. That said, MF is as great today as it was in 2000. We are all just used to it now.

So, given the information in your profile that you are 15, how many bar fights have you experienced?

Kings Island is not promoting fighting on park grounds as this is a staged event. Did the park promote daredevil stunts when Robbie Knievel did his event? What would have happened if RK would have made a mistake and crashed? His event was much more real than this one will ever be- blood or no blood. Are you referring to one drink or multiple drinks as alcohol is being served in the park everyday.

Oxymoronic? Intresting.... I always thought HH as a living dead event during a time that a dark sunshine covers the park. So, if I am understanding your point (and please, correct me if I am wrong)- It is ok to allow teens into the park that have already been unruly to other guests given the marketing stratagies of CF and the fear of an attendance fallout. -But- KI should not try an event, for the first time, marketed for adults for fear of what kind of: attitude, guests, or attendance figures it will bring to the park. Now please don't take my example the wrong way. I am in no way endorsing that teens are not allowed into the park, but simply bringing up issues that I have seen personally and have also been talked about at KIC for many years with no practical solution.

Oh, I took your comments that you have first hand experience with these types of wrestling events, only to find out, you don't. My family & I have been disrespected numerous times at different parks by teenagers who insist on smoking, line jumping, running through the park, and being in off-limit areas. Given your unexperienced criteria of what type of people attend these events, do you also suggest to not allow all teenagers into the park without parental supervision? No. I am also not going to take my kids to a rated "R" movie as neither event is advertised for kids.

So you have attended events like this and have personally witnessed spectators acting out what is on stage? How terrible. Where and when did this happen?

Very true, and I enjoyed your thoughts. When a sterotype is tagged to something, people will often specifically look and seek out that specific sterotype. This event, given the attitude of many posters, has the potential to become negative no matter what happens. It is quite possible that this sterotype can be attributed to 10 people in a crowd of 1000 (as with any large crowd, there is always the possibility of an incident happening) only because people want to believe and are specifically looking out for the negative reference- this event will be considered terrible and shed a negative light on the park. I am amazed that the event has not happened yet, is already tagged as being a bad thing, and KI fans will refuse to enter the park. Drinking the Kool-Aid has certainly worked here. Now if this event does sour HH overall, I will have no problem agreeing that it was a bad idea. I just like to have an open mind and see the event for myself before passing judgement. On a side note: comparing midget wrestling to porn? Really? Talk about going to an extreme to shove an opinion down people's throats....

I find it intresting that most people obviously do not attend these wrestling events, but know: what kind of people do, know that those people will cause vandalism, will be drunk and disorderly, and should be considered/ called "white trash". Wow. The stereotypes contained in this thread are endless. And like many people find this event over the top and disgusting, I find these uneducated sterotypes worse. The YouTube video was produced for a shock reaction, much like ESPN's SportsCenter everynight- you only see the "highlights". The entire event will not be like the video- just like the highlights on SportsCenter are not the only things that happen in a game. The video showed the "worst" of the "worst".

The jungle theme does not appeal to you?

Did I hate the Paramount KI era? No. Hate is a rather strong word. I am more disappointed with their ownership compared to the previous owners. That said, I consider it a time where the park had a status quo feel. With a few exceptions, the park did not continuously improve like other parks. Their additions did not make up for their subtractions.

The sasquatch family has moved on to another entertaining spot....

I'm sure there are some that believe those movies are the best movies ever made, just like some believe SoB is the best wooden coaster out there. Yet, just because some people love them, does not make it above a decent movie. If you polled movie goers (not coaster enthusiasts) asking what is their favorite Paramount movie, I have no problem stating that those movies would not enter the discussion.

Those movies were decent at best. Movies like Drop Zone, Days of Thunder, and Face- Off are all terrible.

^^ It will take time to make everything look better. CF has had less then a handful of years to make up for what the former owners left behind, but so far, CF has done a remarkable job.

I forgot this: I suppose it is a matter of opinion, but, Racer now crosses over a midway. Also: Does SoB not count since it is SBNO? I can see it from practically anywhere in the park.

So DB is a bigger carnival ride than IJ? Again, really? Paramount already destroyed the KI themeing with their additions. To say that rides CF has since put in ruined anything is looking through rose-colored glasses.

So DB made Rivertown less appealing? And TR didn't? Really?

I too liked KI when it was based on theme. International Street Octoberfest Hanna-Barbera Rivertown Old Coney Adventure Village Unfortunatly many of those themes were lost to a company that wanted to advertise itself through naming rides after poor movies. I am happy to see CF try and get back to KI's roots of what made it a great park and not an advertising mecca. Also: how can you possibly compare Disney to a seasonal park?

Given that a potential sale of CF ended due to company value rising, and, that the economy still is on life support, I really can't see another group coming forward and making an offer. As far as bankruptcy goes: CF has not missed any payments to date to file for any type of protection. Given the recent refinance conditions, I believe CF has cleared the hump and is holding steady.

Yes.

This is too funny.... Why does everything have to be about a new ride? Why can't things just be meant for the most obvious of reasons? A present that has Snoopy on the name tag- is really for Snoopy. A pile of dirt- is really just a pile of dirt. A closed coaster- is really still closed.