DoomPlague

Would be nice if our country clamped down on "service fees"

Not just the investment that they get but the fact that CP has no shortage of flat rides. Does anyone in the chain even come close in that regard?

Hard to imagine any of the flat rides being straight up demolished aside from the Drop Tower. Some are fairly new including a star flyer, a NebuluZ and a discovery. Looking at what they have I realized the park technically has two "flying dutchman" rides, which is kind of funny. Ragin' Cajun probably has a shot too.

When they talked about offloading or closing parks, this is the one that popped in everyone's head. So yeah, not a huge surprise. Always a shame to lose a park though and I feel terrible for the people nearby who actually enjoy SFA despite its reputation. I've never been there, so I may have to see if I can get there before they close. Sounds like the county wants them to find a buyer and keep it zoned as entertainment but the corporation would rather redevelop it and get some people to drive to KD, it would seem.

I hope everyone gets a chance to ride. I was lucky enough to get 2 rides a year ago and it was fantastic.

I believe they would need one more along with Siren's and TT2 to match Energylandia.

On one hand CF was wanting an excuse to close TTD which was expensive to maintain and while I imagine X2 isn't a great ride to keep running, it doesn't seem to be TTD level of problematic. But on the other hand, they've been on a spree of closing down rides and SFMM, probably more than anyone, needs to cut out some fat.

We're definitely reaching a saturation point with B&M models but that probably won't stop them from putting a B&M dive everywhere they can.

I would be more excited now for a Mack than I would have been a few years ago. They arguably made the two best new rides of 2024 and are safely in the top-tier of coaster manufacturers now. But I'll echo what others say about B&M. They are just the boring, safe manufacturer now and their quality appears to have gone downhill. Also: S&S. I was interested in where they take things and its only been disappointing.

A couple weeks ago I met my family inside the KI Starbucks after I grabbed food from LaRosa's. Part of me worried if someone was going to say anything but I was with my group and it was a cold, rainy day and there was plenty of space in there. Honestly, that Starbucks is a waste of indoor dining space in the park, even if G&G is next door.

I might ask to look at my parents' photo collection. The may have something, since we used it a few times in the 90s. I recall it having an actual picnic shelter.

I have trouble deciding between: -The speed hill on Orion: great airtime at high speed -The consecutive banked hills on Mystic Timbers, if you can count that as one element -The double helix on The Beast or... -The drop into the double helix: It's just so weird and unsettling building up speed at a steady but slow pace, and you're banked for the whole drop making it extra awkward, but in a fun way.

We got an invert right across from an old invert and a new wood coaster in the same area of the park as our most famous wood coaster. So at least those B&M's are in different parts of the park

I recall some expressing that the park should focus on operating its existing rides before getting a big new coaster. ...someone should tell that to Magic Mountain.

I know its operating temps have been discussed but Adventure Express would be fun for Winterfest. They could have some fun with the theming.

I'm not a rabid RMC fan like many others. I dislike the restraints in particular but I get why people love the rides as they are pretty much as wild as a coaster can get. So I wouldn't mind seeing one at KI...but I want it to be something special and not just a typical mid-level one Six Flags one.

I missed out on Haunt this year for various reasons but managed to get to the park for the last day of the season before Winterfest. I was pretty happy with the reasonable crowds and honestly the ride crews were on point. Everything was running at full capacity other than Banshee running 2 trains and WindSeeker not running. I don't think I saw any stacking on the coasters. Also, tried the spicy mac & cheese from Wishbone. It wasn't a ton of pasta but there was a lot of tender, fatty beef pieces which were surprisingly good. Aside from some insufferable young men trying to start a political chant on The Beast (and annoying the entire train), it was a pleasant end to the fall season. Also, I noticed the music in Rivertown, at least that I heard, was purely instrumental. Is that just a fall thing? I very much prefer that to the country style cover songs.

I hope the next passholder survey suggests Mystic with a loop and LSMs.

Looks like they're going to divert Perimeter Road for this. It's an odd/bad fit for the park, for sure but I'll gladly ride it. I'm also going to agree with those that think this is a last minute addition to make up for 2024.

The whole thing went almost as badly as it possibly could have and that somehow only adds to its legendary status. It's the last time KI tried to do something extraordinary and I've noticed that many younger enthusiasts, who never got to ride it, are surprisingly fascinated by it. Anytime I mention somewhere online that I rode it a bunch of times, people ask what it was like.

While it's unfair to make assumptions about BeastFarmer's motives, you don't have to have a racial slant to recognize the common patterns of racially charged comments that avoid "saying the quiet part out loud" especially any time an incident happens at a park. Honestly, at first glance, BeastFarmer's post reminded me of many similar comments that were a bit more obvious, but I prefer to give the benefit of doubt especially to a frequent poster. It's easy to have knee jerk reactions like that if you see enough "subtle" racist comments, especially on Youtube shorts. For some reasons I see way more racist comments on shorts than on regular youtube videos. I'm guessing its because racists have short attention spans.

Yeah, Intamin is a serial offender and their costs are obviously higher. Zamperla hasn't reached that status as bad as the TT2 situation turned out to be. Sure, it does seem that Intamin is more reliable than they were when all those rides were built (and don't forget P/I305) but its hard to look past at all the problems of the past.

I suspect the easiest would be more operating days, and I mean just more than a couple extra weekends. They potentially could experiment with some more evening-only dates, maybe with reduced operations. There are plenty of people in the area willing to show up for just a couple hours. Otherwise, I think the park would need a serious expansion to drive up the numbers, including a parking expansion and the chain just isn't interested in that.

Action Zone: A big retheme preferably is pretty much what we all want. My dream retheme for it isn't realistic but I think a victorian city theme would be neat here and I've suggested before that you could take out Congo, Timberwolf and Skyflyer to create a new path that goes behind the Drop Tower and them have room for new rides and a shop or restaurant, etc. Adventure Port: Add some music and some extra theming. Oktoberfest: I'm fine leaving it as a small part of the park, tbh. Coney Mall: Bring back the arch and make some other small improvements to add to the classic midway feel. And play appropriate music. Area 72: a full restroom and expand the food stall to have meals. A flat ride wouldn't hurt. Rivertown: a theme refresh would be great. I would consider a flying theater for the Crypt building and put in a Musik Express in that area or some other flat ride. I would love to see WWC get some improvements to scenery and new water elements. Planet/Camp Snoopy: as others have said: make the whole area camp snoopy. I-Street: Music changes. Some nice symphonic music with the occasional pieces that match the theme (like Italian or French). I know we have a whole other threat about park music but my most recent visit I was particularly bugged by how much country music is played in the park. Sorry if you like country music but, imo, I think music without lyrics at all works best especially if you have music specific to each area. As others have suggested, The Vortex plot and the area around WindSeeker and Backlot could be turned into a new area. Eventually Backlot should come out though. I enjoy the ride but it has poor capacity and its taking up that prime realestate with its ugly theming.

Honestly, I would gladly give up a couple of early Winterfest days in favor of more night rides on The Beast and other coasters.