silver2005

I got to do The Beast tour last year which Don ran, and in my group, he was asked what kinds of rides Kings Island would add under Cedar Fair. His response was pretty much towards reliable rides. The philosophy- waiting in line for an hour only to have that ride break down is time lost to the customer. That pretty much speaks volumes to the rides we'll see at Kings Island in the future. Just look at the history the park had when Paramount was in charge from 2000-2006. Most of those rides are either gone (Son of Beast and Crypt) or have downtime issues of some kind (Delirium). Yes, Firehawk has downtime, but 1. it was initially built by Six Flags and 2. Kings Island technically inherited it. WindSeeker is another story altogether. With that, if this is a major steel coaster, I'm willing to lean towards it being a B&M by a lot.

Looks like I have to bring this up again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t44EAsLwGWA

I know this is going out on a limb here, but the way those footers are paired aside from the set that look like they'll be a train shed make me think this could be an inverted coaster (which, throwing in my $0.02, is the type I'm hoping for). In comparison, I believe Diamondback's supports that hold up the brake run next to it's shed are regular supports like you'd see throughout the ride as opposed to the pairing's we're seeing here. Again, just an observation.

I believe this thread calls for a facepalm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t44EAsLwGWA

With that Screamscape update, why do I get the feeling Lance got that rumor from that Kings-Island-Project-2014 page on Facebook? I'm guessing that's why he himself said he's taking it with a grain of salt. EDIT: Thanks for the correction Diamondback96

So than why are we considering Italian Job a family coaster? And if you really want to classify a roller coasters length, I think fairly you can't count the lift hill. That's why The Beast is 5 minutes long... You do know that pretty much every coaster information site ever includes the lift hill(s) both in physical length and ride time...right? Plus for many people, going up the lifts are part of the experience, creating anticipation for the first drop.

What was the last family coaster added that was 30 seconds long?Top GunInvertigo I think they are a waste of money...I like them but they are to short. I'm not saying they are bad rides...don't get me wrong, I like long roller coasters... 1. Since when is Invertigo a 'family' coaster? 2. Both are longer than 30 seconds. 3. Contradiction much?

^Yeah, though I do adore coasters and don't really have that much a fear of heights, seeing Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster still give me goosebumps. Such a rush for me riding them both, only 2 of a few rides I'll gladly wait over an hour for. Yeah, some consider TTD a one-trick-pony, but it does one heck of a trick. I'll also jump on the Magnum love here. Magnum was my first coaster over 200 ft and my first ride on it was at night, which I've made a tradition in always ending a day at Cedar Point with a night ride on her. Such a great design in a great location to boot. Oh, and I first rode it during its 10th anniversary; still have the t-shirt commemorating it for that.

Just because the green track didn't end up at Kings Island doesn't mean that some of us aren't interested in where it is actually going. Some of us do follow the happenings of parks outside Kings Island. Just sayin'.

Also, Intamin has other models being sold outside their giga/hyper coasters that still use the box track.

I've been around coaster sites a while and for me, its easier for me to compile all my trip reports into one topic so I don't lose track of them. Along with park trip reports, I also like to do reports on the trips I do with the UC Band for bowls and tournament trips. I do have a few things to start out with. This year I have 3 other park visits planned outside of Kings Island; being Cedar Point, Michigan's Adventure, and Holiday World (the later 2 being my first time visiting). Though I've been to Cedar Point many times, I do want to leave the option to eat outside the park for this particular trip, which I've never done before. A few things on that. First, if I leave the park at Cedar Point including the parking lot, what is the procedure for re-entering the parking lot? Also, what are the best places to eat outside the park? For Michigan's Adventure and Holiday World, I just need general advice. In particular, a good day plan for both (I'll be going on weekdays for each), best places to eat in the park, and any hidden gems that need pointing out (I like to do more than just the coasters, I am a flat ride fan). I will be going to Holiday World for 2 days so I can take in as much of Splashin' Safari as I can. For food advice, it's mostly the lighter food I need advice on where to find (I know that's a stretch for amusement parks, just general light food is fine). Any advice on riding their respective coasters would be helpful as well. Thanks and I hope to have a trip report soon!

Let's see...for me it'd be classic rock, some modern/contemporary rock (not a big fan of rock that's too hard, Metalica, Nirvana and Alice in Chains is as hard as I go), jazz, and classical music. I also like to listen to movie scores. I'm also a bit of a musician myself, with the alto and tenor saxophones as my instruments of choice. I LOVE playing jazz. I currently play said saxophones in the UC Bearcat Bands and a community band during the summer, also run by the UC Band.

That is Formula Rossa at Ferrari World in Dubai, built by Intamin, also the fastest coaster in the world. Though, it just launches nearly 150 mph right into trims. Meh.

While dive machines are a different design than a typical floorless coaster (like Bizarro and Hydra), they do come with floorless trains now, so technically that'd be kind of getting a 2 for 1 deal there. Just sayin'.

Every time I've been to Cedar Point, more specifically in line for Wicked Twister and Magnum for some reason, I get people pointing out and insisting that Lake Erie is really the ocean.

Just to make it clear for those who may not be aware, this plant has produced track for several parks, many of which are outside the Cedar Fair chain and even some outside the United States. Off the top of my head and using recent examples, the plant helped produce Dollywood's Wild Eagle, Carowinds' Intimidator, Hair Raiser at Ocean Park in Hong Kong, the aforementioned Flying Over the Rainforest, along with a slew of others I'm sure. This track is probably for another park.

Well for one, the plant is out in the middle of nowhere and second, they would need a heck of a truck to haul off with the pieces, not to mention getting them on said truck if at all.

How exactly did you guys pinpoint they are supports just for a wing coaster? I can probably find about any B&M coaster and find similar supports, or even rides from other manufactures.

As a former employee of the Rivertown Potato works, I can attest to how busy it can be. I had the fortunate (or unfortunate) timing of my first days being over the 4th of July weekend in 2004. That and among other weekends we had lines extending all the way across the midway. It got really bad when there's a train rush from when the water park closed for the evening (or just the train pulling up in general). There was also the fact that one who worked there came out smelling like peanut oil, which I kind of got used to. Lots of shenanigans as well to make it interesting.

Ok, start at where the go karts used to be. There is a lone pine tree just above that and behind that is the slab of concrete I saw (covered by a plastic tarp in this picture).

I went to Kings Island yesterday and from the Eiffel Tower, I spotted a piece of concrete that was sort of triangle shaped and pretty large. It kind of looked like a footer that could hold several supports at once, possibly indicating an elevated turn or curved drop on the ride, or even, dare I say...an inversion. The slab was just down the hill from King Cobra's old spot.

LaRosa's is my go-to food most of the time. Of all 3 locations, I actually prefer the International Street location. I kind like to people-watch plus just the allure of that area plus the fountains is relaxing to me. I'll probably start eating at the Reds restaurant quite a bit as I LOVE Montgomery Inn BBQ and I'm a diehard Reds fan, not to mention its right by my favorite wood and steel coaster. I'm also a patron of Graeter's, the blue ice cream, and Rivertown Potato Works, where I used to work during the 2004 season, not good when they were hitting sewer lines to make way for Italian Job and the train rushes when the water park closed. O.o The only time I ever eat Skyline at the park is in October. I can't stand chili in hot weather.

I hope some of you realize this, but this has already been planned out in its entirety, even the schedule of the construction, when to put certain things in, etc. I honestly think some of you are over-thinking things WAY too much. Whatever happens happens. What they're doing now is probably on schedule to making this a reality for April 2014. Patience is a virtue.

You also have Manhattan Express in Vegas which is 203 ft tall (only a 144 ft drop) and has 2 inversions. The coaster formerly known as Steel Phantom had a 225 ft drop and 4 inversions (pre-Phantom's Revenge days). Alpengeist comes close at 196 ft. The few giant inverted boomerangs in the world are 191 ft. Obviously Son of Beast made this list and the aforementioned dive machines.

The only reason we have Firehawk is from Geauga Lake's closure. Our only rides from them otherwise are Invertigo and Aerial Ace. I'm pretty sure Cedar Fair hasn't dealt with them in quite a while, plus I don't think Vekoma builds to the scale we're anticipating for the 2014 ride. @TheCrypt- I'm also in the boat of not wanting a giga coaster. I know the evidence points to one, but I'm kind of pulling for an inverted coaster or a dive machine. BTW, for those wanting floorless, dive machines come with floorless cars now.