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  1. "Hmm, I wonder what that would feel like? Please, tell me more," pondered the Tomb Raider: The Ride/The Crypt fan aloud.
  2. Humanity is better off. Anaconda does not abide by the Geneva Convention. I think I honestly had to process Vortex's removal a bit before posting my full thoughts. I don't have too much love for it, but it's been at the park since my childhood. It was my first looping coaster. Seeing the double loop from the midway is as synonymous with Kings Island as The Beast or the Eiffel Tower for me. It's a bit like losing that coworker you've worked with for years and didn't particularly like, but you could rely on them to be there and do their job. I think one of the parts of this I'm sad about is losing the sound of its lift hill and brakes, because those are such iconic summer sounds for me. But, of course, everything has its time. I don't mean this in some backhanded, outraged way, but I do feel like the park's lineup grew a little more homogeneous with this announcement. I'm not about to swear off the park or anything, but there was something cool about the mix of old and new we had going on. A classic Arrow looper isn't something that any other company offers something comparable to. There's just something about the way an Arrow rides, for better or for worse, that has never been duplicated and likely never will. I feel about this how I felt when Wildcat and Disaster Transport left CP--I think their replacements were better experiences, but the ride lineup lost a little diversity that I had previously enjoyed. But again, I'm sure there's more to this announcement than the park just deciding to ruin everyone's day, haha. If metal fatigue was the cause, then a full-scale replacement a la Hulk would be in order... Is Vortex worth that compared to a new ride in that spot? As others have mentioned, the answer is likely "no," if such a thing is even possible with a 32 year-old Arrow. I do think that whatever replaces it also needs to be iconic. I love B&M, and they make great and reliable rides, but in my opinion, a B&M is pretty rarely iconic. Fury 325 and Thunderbird? Absolutely--because both break the mold and offer something distinct from start to finish that is not only unique to the parks they're in, but also to the roller coaster world as a whole. But honestly, a lot of B&Ms offer a supporting role that round out a park experience but do kind of fit the generic roller coaster experience. They're fun and fast but kind of forgettable? Like, I like Rougarou and think it helps make Cedar Point what it is, but how many people, enthusiast or general public, are going to Cedar Point specifically to ride it? (I only single out B&M because of Cedar Fair's reliance on them, which I don't think is a bad thing--it's just a thing.) I think Vortex's removal is a really special opportunity for the park. They've just removed a looping coaster with a 48" height restriction. It's more accessible to the younguns than Invertigo, Banshee, or Flight of Fear, and I'd wager a guess that it was many people's first looping coaster. I don't personally feel like the best replacement is a gigantic, ultra-intense record-setter with a 54" height restriction. That made sense with the transition from Son of Beast to Banshee, but I don't feel like that's the case here. And the 48" looping coaster world is an interesting one--that's where you find rides like Hangtime at Knott's, Railblazer at Great America, and Twisted Timbers at Kings Dominion. And I'm curious to know what Cedar Fair's feelings are with RMC since Steel Vengeance. Especially now that we've gotten that giga, I'm really intrigued to see what they do with that area. There's not a particular model that leaps out at me as a possibility.
  3. There's a little part of me that remembers @bkroz's re-imagining of Kings Island and kinda wants to see a Zamperla Moto Coaster with cars themed to horses or something like Verbolten (but with a unique theme) in that area. Especially if they used the area outlined by @Klabergian Empire and even maybe put Action Theater out of its misery in the process. I just really hope it's something unique and family-oriented and maybe a little terrain-y. I'm a little weary of the big coaster cycle (I like B&M, but I'm getting a little tired of Cedar Fair's dependence on them), and we're losing something with a 48" height restriction. Not to mention that Valravn is only 3 years old, so it'd be a little surprising to see a dive coaster show up at KI that soon since a lot of KI's customer base seems to be aware of CP's existence. Complete pipe dream incoming: it'd be even cooler if that was where a dark ride was put in and the exterior was themed to a carnival sideshow of sorts. Or something thematically appropriate for an amusement park from yesterday. Or even a reimagining of Coney Island's Lost River. Or literally anything besides another -est-iest B&M, haha.
  4. No no, they're installing lift track, not side track. Also, I don't know of a way to narrow B&Ms down by height on RCDB, but I'm sure the Family Inverted Coaster they did for Happy Valley in Beijing is in the running. According to RCDB, it's 65.6' tall. Link.
  5. (Source.) It's fine, I'm not bitter towards that ride after working it or anything. I do agree with this, though. VF has a really beautiful location in the park. When its day comes, I hope its replacement is equally as picturesque.
  6. ...Were they not before? I feel like I've read about those being prohibited in the rules for a lot of major parks for a while now. Does this just mean they'll enforce it?
  7. I would imagine that "attraction" does not exclude non-coaster installations. Smuggler's Run could not win Best New Roller Coaster, but it could be in the running for Best New Attraction Installation.
  8. This might very well be the best post I've read on here in a very long time.
  9. ^ Us in 10 years: "SeaWorld Sells Off Its Last Ride & Animal, Inexplicably Remains Open Anyway".
  10. My Spidey senses are telling me that SEAS has a lot of internal strife. They seem to be having trouble retaining higher ups like Carl Lum (former president of BGW, suddenly moved to SWSA, just quit out of the blue a couple weeks ago according to Screamscape) or any of their CEOs. What confuses me is why. I haven't followed them as closely in the last couple years, but the impression I had was that the chain is slowly on the mend. They seem to be pouring a lot of money into their parks for 2019/2020/2021 to help turn them into coaster destinations instead of focusing on the wildlife, which, in my amateur, don't-have-their-financials-in-front-of-me eyes, seems like one of the better plans of attack after Blackfish.
  11. Not at all! That was a logical counterargument. But yeah, I was mainly thinking about proximity to the fireworks. Fireworks debris could be an issue. Or, similar to what @fyrfyter said, perhaps there are codes or laws regarding proximity to fireworks that they have to follow.
  12. The real question here: will Orion have to close for fireworks like Beast does, or will the fireworks location change? Orion's even closer to the launch spot than Beast.
  13. Speaking of quotes from this thread that aged like milk...
  14. I knew you wouldn't let me down.
  15. ^ GhostRider and Boss are great!
  16. I actually just rode YS on Saturday. I didn't specifically pay too much attention to how much play there was in the restraints, but I didn't notice any major differences from Banshee.
  17. I have been dying to know the story behind the derailment for years. All I've ever seen has been that fuzzy satellite image with "1973 derailment" on it. Thank you so much for sharing, @kimv1972!
  18. I've ridden it at Fun Spot Orlando (when they still had one--I don't think it's there anymore?) It looks very nauseating, but it's a ton of fun. Zamperla Air Races are really great rides, and I'd love to see one come our way.
  19. I think it might be a comparison thing. For many years around here, Red was pretty consistently praised as being the smooth side. And then Blue received that retracking, which is making Red seem rougher in comparison.
  20. ^ This guy gets it. The time I went to Wonderland, I got Fast Lane. That was still much, much too long of a wait for Time Warp. And it was like a 30 second wait. It besmirches the good name of Tomb Raiders everywhere. Linus Launcher is smooth and nauseating, and that's about it.
  21. ...High school algebra is one of your favorite movies?
  22. I was just thinking about something similar--Italian Job and Delirium are literally the only late Paramount eras addition that are still standing. You have to go back to 1999 to find the next ones (Drop Zone, Face Off). And there was a LOT of money spent between 1999 and 2005 that ended up not paying off. And Delirium is the only one whose ride experience was sustainable. Love them or hate them, Cedar Fair's coaster additions have brought the park up to the modern era (as defined by timelines of other major parks) and will likely be around for a long while. This. I am *completely* making this up as I go, but if there is any validity to that, perhaps the height restriction is not uniform across the park? I've heard Kentucky Kingdom has that situation, though it was from enthusiasts and not from anyone official.
  23. I'm suddenly having flashbacks to The Interpreter saying years ago that if KI wanted to build a giga, they'd first have to start by digging a hole. If I remember correctly, it was explained later that this had something to do with height restrictions due to the park being close to an airport or a runway or something. And now I feel like I get why Orion wasn't taller, and I don't feel like it's a coincidence that it drops into a small valley to reach 300 feet. Anyway, stats aren't super relevant for me, honestly. It does remind me of Leviathan, which I wasn't overwhelmed by, but that's not going to keep me from riding it. I really like the turnaround and that subsequent little hop, and I'm glad our giga has a signature element like that to distinguish it from the others. If we do take stats into account, though, I don't know that I've ever ridden a coaster that was 200 feet tall or more that was objectively bad. And having this one a little over an hour from home is something to get excited about regardless. I do also have to say that (The Real) Mike Koontz's words at the announcement about what the park has done over the last few years brought something to mind I want to take a moment to appreciate. I don't know if this is his doing, corporate's doing, or a combination of both, but for me, little touches like Area 72 and giving everything in the area a coherent paint job (plus whatever theming they bring) adds a lot of soul that the park has lacked during the Cedar Fair era for me. Restoring the Glockenspiel, revamping International Street, giving the far end of Coney Mall a coat of paint and details that make it feel coherent, hosting a limited-time event with a parade that people actually make a point of seeing, giving Mystic Timbers actual dynamic theming... I really like what's going on. Even if the little theme of "we scientists have actually been testing riders' limits to prepare for this moment" from last night doesn't get carried into Area 72, that's a touch of imagination that I haven't felt at the park in a long time. I really, really like that. P.S. Curmudgeonly old man warning: I'm also really hoping the KI coaster community will finally chill out and go back to enjoying whatever the park adds instead of rolling their eyes because it's not what the park "deserves" or "needs in its lineup" or whatever. Get off my lawn.
  24. Ah, that makes a lot of sense. The cars also resemble Racer 75 instead of our Racer with those colored headrests. I wonder if some amount of the model came from a Kings Dominion rendering.
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