SonofBaconator

Firehawk’s funeral was more of a marketing ploy to hype what was to come down the road. KI didn’t give Vortex a funeral because they more than likely weren’t trying to draw attention to it considering that there wasn’t a replacement lined up for it.

I don’t know why it’s so hard to make the event atmospheric. Playing fall music isn’t hard.

I don’t see why the goals have to be mutually exclusive: make the mazes and scare zones for adults and older teens and make the pathways more family friendly.

The fact that someone went out of their way to create a nearly identical burner account to discredit the park is beyond petty.

Someone on here pointed out that the chaperone policy might make that difficult. If these people already have passes, they’re going to bring their little ones vs paying a babysitter.

I think this is why I think they should relocate all scareactors to mazes/scare zones. With the number of monsters you take off the pathways, you could open up one or two more mazes or scare zones. In my opinion this would fix some issues with the event. I understand people miss being scared and having things be more adult oriented but with the way things appear to be heading with chaperone policies and more parents bringing their little ones, I think opening up more haunts at the expense of relocating scareactors would be a fair compromise for people who still go for the Haunt element.

I went tonight….things seemed very PG-13. Not sure why the DJ couldn’t play Halloween music in Coney Maul.

Would it be feasible to have Haunt run on Thursdays without the rides- where it would be mazes and scare zones? They could say that the “No Boo” necklaces wouldn’t work those nights and it would just be for those who want to get scared. In theory, could a ride-less Haunt even work?

I mean no one had made a comment for nearly a month until now…

An idea I have that wouldn’t take much effort to accomplish but could get the park some more attention: adding titles to their rides. For example, instead of saying “The Beast is waiting for you this weekend” say something like “The World Famous Beast is waiting for you this weekend.” Instead of saying “Carpenters are spending the offseason replacing the wood on The Racer” say “Carpenters are spending the offseason replacing the wood on the Historic Racer.” “Guests enjoy their ride on the Record Breaking Banshee.” This is done here and there with social media posts but I think they should try and capitalize on anything they can to market themselves a little more. Including a few extra words could make all the difference. The World Famous Beast The Historic Racer The Record Breaking Banshee The Mile Long Diamondback The Award Winning Orion/Mystic Timbers

I didn’t know where else to put this: go to 54:00 and watch for about a minute and you’ll see where the owner talks about parts of Phantom Theater being in the Dent Schoolhouse (also at the beginning I think an old spinning cauldron from KI though he says Coney Island).

A single rider line would help that but I know that’s been unpopular with people in years past during Winterfest.

This might get me tarred and feathered but I think Monster should be dismantled and stored in favor of something that offers better capacity. I know it would never happen but I wonder how long people spend on that ride from the que, to loading, to riding, to waiting to be unloaded.

Launched wood to launched hybrid to chainlift hybrid

Safety would be a concern but Torture Tower seemed super unique: (2:12)

I don’t personally mind, I just don’t agree with the overall concept

That’s not always the case. I’ve seen actors avoid certain groups altogether because one of the people was wearing a necklace. If there’s a group of say 5 people and one of them is wearing a “no-boo” necklace, I don’t know how an actor can do their job properly in scaring the other 4 without indirectly scaring the one with the necklace that they’ve been instructed to avoid.

Also more food for thought: If I’m part of the park’s front office, I’m looking at where the dollars are going. Look at ride ops: you know you need a certain amount of people to operate a ride and you know the operating cost to staff it. You can calculate ROI based off of the number of riders per hour. You can’t really calculate the ROI of a roaming scareactor. If I’m Dent Schoolhouse, I know I’m getting my money’s worth with my staff….if I’m employing roaming scareactors in an amusement park setting with “no boo necklaces”, I don’t know if I’m getting all that I can out of them. If you put them in a maze or scare zone, you know they’re being used as effectively as possible. The no-boo necklaces certainly invite a more family atmosphere that I don’t see going away. More and more parents are taking their kids to Haunt because they see it as a less scary alternative to Dent Schoolhouse, USS Nightmare, Land of Illusion, etc. Also, with Haunt being open for late hours, enthusiasts are able to catch night rides on their favorite coasters later than they would during the regular summer season. The event is certainly evolving but I personally don’t think they’re making as much money off of employing scareactors as they should be.

I decided to make this it’s own thread because I think is needs attention. I’ve shared this before but I’m not a huge fan of the idea of roaming scareactors. I think the practice is an inefficient use of labor and therefore should be eliminated from Halloween Haunt. It’s been stated on here that there will be less scareactors this season. This could lead to less immersive mazes/scare zones. Why not simply pull these employees from the pathways and put them in the mazes and scare zones where they could be better utilized? I argue there’d be more value for guests if the mazes and scare zones were more immersive as opposed to spreading the staffing so thin around the park. Regarding value, I think guests should be allowed to choose whether or not they want to get scared. If people want to get scared, then they should go to the mazes/scare zones. I don’t agree with the idea that you should have to pay more to not be scared via the “no boo” necklaces. It comes off as an unnecessary cash grab. I don’t think I’m alone in this but I’m not confident that this will ever become a reality unless attendance drops to the point where they would need to take action.

I think eliminating the roaming aspect and restructuring actors/actresses into the mazes would help with the staffing problems. On any given night, the pathways are jam packed with guests and it seems like scareactors can’t be as efficient at doing their jobs; I’ve heard from multiple people that they never needed to get “no-boo” necklaces because they were never approached by any monsters. TL;DR- eliminate the roaming effect and relocate all scareactors into the mazes

Ideally the ride would’ve been initially designed to where all arms could lower at once but they would require a lot of hydrologics which probably weren’t available decades ago- heck current models still resemble the old designs

Wait what?

Somewhere in Coney Mall

Not to sound like a critic but I personally wouldn’t mind if they closed the Action Zone portion of Winterfest and dispersed its activities around different parts of the park. I guess I say this because the 2005 Winterfest seemed a lot “tighter” where as the Cedar Fair version seems more spread out. The kids area has expanded since ‘05 as well as the addition of Coney Mall and Area 72. I think if they left out Action Zone, they could refocus their attention on other parts of the park.

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