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They probably have a surplus of cups they are trying to get rid of and are really pushing upsells to increase per cap spending...let's face it with all the plans they need to upsell to increase revenue and these kids just try to upsell everyone regardless of if they already have the cup...they are pushing FunPix print outs too... Ok back to this topic - it sounds like they allowed her to simply crawl back out and get on ride - does anyone else think that should be a temporary closure/e-stop as she did enter a confined space area...

I know someone at another CF park that bought two season passe just so that he could have two meal plans in his name/picture - yep they will sell you two passes. And for another reason....

The retrofit will be the elimination of the bins! The queue gates open in such a way to "force" you into your row, so she had to have fallen through by taking stuff over to the bins and on the way back to her seat she was probably talking with her daughters and not paying attention and simply walked behind the seats her daughters were going to and not realizing she was on the next car and fell through in between them...

It was before the ride...she was probably messing with her phone getting the video ready to record a POV But yeah, she was probably talking to her daughters and not paying attention where she was walking.

There are other devious ways the park is aware of but I will not share the ones I am aware of as it would probably create copycat situations making it worse...and their pass computer system has been discussed elsewhere within this forum and the needs for updating that could correct many of these issues being discussed... The picture popping up for the cashier has been there for years but most cashiers just selected that the picture matched the guest...

They have also ran a certain train empty instead of taking it offline so that they didn't have to wrap the belts around all of the lap bars of empty seats. That train would enter the station and they would say that train is going out empty and you will get on the next one. Leaving the train online allowed them to simply reopen it if they got busy. But yes either running a train empty or blocking of rows is a practice used on Timbers due to the seat belts not being retractable and they have to wrap them around the lap bar. Now why they weren't retractable...

Even after Twisted Timbers accident that started this thread they are still having people stuff their stuff down their shirt - stuff is still flying out for those with large shirt openings...

True but if management isn't making it a priority there is a reason - is it because it is statistically rare someone is injured so they don't enforce; is it they don't want to burden guest services with ticked off people who had their phones taken or being kicked out of park; they don't want the negative reviews, or some combination of these and others. Let's face the reality that more people would go in and complain to guest services about having their phone taken from them for the day or being kicked out of the park than those of us that log a complaint about someone with their phone out. Maybe our resident pollster should start a poll on here lol... I agree though - set the precedent early and go after banning folks that post illegal POV and the problem will be minimized before the industry has to take more extreme measures.

I have posted on this forum in the past that every time someone does something stupid on a ride that results in serious injury or death in the industry, the industry response is an additional measure on rides whether similar in nature or not (adding seatbelts to Diamondback after being in operation how many years, going from buzz bars to lap bars and seat belts, etc.), that it will get to the point that each coaster train will be fully enclosed so that someone can't fall out and if they have loose articles it only hits themselves. Imagine riding Diamondback without getting to feel the wind in your face....now this may be an extreme solution but each time an incident like stitches required for a flying cellphone gets us one step closer to having such overly restrictive ride experience it takes the whole joy out of the experience. If you see these things happen, bring it up to the ride ops - if they don't do anything go to guest services. If we just sit back and wait for industry knee jerk responses to accidents, I assure you that we will not like the over the top solution as it may ruin the ride experience...

In addition to Gold Pass being extended, they added another Bring a friend for Sunday, and added a Wednesday Friends day for rest of June and July...I am guessing attendance on Sunday was below their expectation...

Well once someone is over 48" they can start to ride more rides outside of Planet Snoopy without an adult and that is a distinction...

Exactly!!! What he says Gravity lacks, such as the lack of as daring acts as Cirque du Soleil, where present in Imagine and Origins, and much more so than what we have in Gravity. In fact, many of the performers from previous shows are performing their exact routine (or some variation) right now in Cirque du Soleil shows around the world. In fact, half of the Cirque du Soleil shows currently playing in Vegas have performers from our previous Imagine and Origins seasons... However, he is correct in that these shows are a mini version of a Cirque du Soleil show and KI patrons should recognize the talent and abilities of these true professionals, some of which sign short term Cirque du Soleil contracts so that they can do a regional show like this in the summer. We get to see roughly 25 minutes of a Cirque du Soleil show for the price of KI admission (or entry with a season pass). It is a great deal. They bring to KI a type of show that many patrons will not be able to afford to see as a Cirque du Soleil show.

Because Planet Snoopy has 6 rides that you have to be under 54" to ride - once she reaches 54", she can no longer ride those, but then can ride the 4 rides that you must be over 54" to ride...

^And it is parents like that why some parks or specific rides will not allow a too short person in line with their family. Because of a parent's lack of being a responsible adult now means that rule abiding families have to either split up and one stays behind while the others go in line or they just don't ride. Plus it should be a requirement that anyone shorter than 54" should be required to have a height wrist band so that ride-ops have an easier time assessing this.

I think nothing is done (other than not having staff to do it) because they don't want negative FB reviews of someone saying their pass was revoked because they had their phone out. Personally I think the bad press of a serious injury or death is worse, but until such event happens, countless selfies and videos will continue to be posted from on rides... Metal detectors at each ride will end up being the solution if it isn't got under control by other means...

People suffer from NIMBY syndrome - let's hope the ride op was in error - let's hope that CF would fight that if it were true...

^exactly what I have been saying for years - and the smile on their face is probably because they were being told to put it away when the photo was being taken...oh wait we know people never listen... It would probably never happen, but enough injuries and maybe it will, but anyone posting illegal pics/videos they took should have their pass revoked. Any good attorney will scour CF social media and other posts to prove their argument that CF allows and encourages said behavior...

Surprised this wasn't mentioned yet... http://www.wlwt.com/article/tree-branch-falls-onto-coney-island-ride-injuring-2-children/21527958

Nowhere...yet....he performed at the 3pm show...

And how many times do we hear a ride op over the speaker say "if you are sitting on a handrail please get down". They have to repeat several times because nobody pays attention.

I have said this before, but does a retweet by a CF park like Kings Island of a patron selfie post on a coaster that someone posted imply that CF is okay with cameras out on the ride despite the announcement and postings? Or simply spend 10 minutes next to a lift hill on a coaster and hear the ride op over the speakers inform the patron to put away the cell phone and they do not put it away and the ride is not stopped and the patron continues with the video. I am sure an attorney would make good use of that argument when a suit is filed at some point for a flying camera disfiguring someone. Otherwise why have the rule if it isn't enforced? Now I realize that according to the offender, he claims he forgot to zipper his pocket. Why wasn't policy to keep everyone on that train "captive" for witness statements and stuff. I cannot believe nobody held on to that phone to get offenders name and simply gave it back and let him continue with his day... But as we have seen in the industry, real change only seems to happen after an event and lawsuit. I would expect in the upcoming weeks to see a stronger enforcement of the phone policy. One questions what they will do at rides like Banshee and Mystic where I have seen them physically hand something back to the patron (cell phones, glasses, etc.) to hold in their hand while they ride the ride - that is a recipe for disaster - I suspect we will see those patrons not allowed to ride now.. I have seen plenty of people holding cell phones on Mystic - not taking photos, but holding onto them because they had no place to put it. Do we see metal detectors at ride entrance... Will this be spread to all coasters... Time will tell... And to those that have posted that any object is moving with coaster and won't really hurt anyone riding same train forgets about air resistance and once object leaves person it becomes a projectile - just look at that forehead... Unfortunately, patrons totally tune out ride ops, or any other announcement (looking at you smokers not in designated area as the announcement is made). Spend a few minutes at Twisted Timbers or Steel Vengeance and watch how many people pull down their lap bar despite repeated attempts told not to. Granted for whatever reason that doesn't happen at Steel Vengeance as often as it does on Twisted Timbers.

But the WF schedule is available on the website, although it is subject to change...

^KD and CP have absolutely had internationals working at rides this year...

One would think that would fall under the duties of the area manager of digital marketing....

Well year one cirque imagine cast changes were solely due to injury. Year two cirque imagine we had everyone beginning to end (some did miss a few shows to injury but no replacements). Origins is a different story, especially year one where almost everyone changed, well it seemed like it lol. Year two origins didn't change as much as year one, but certainly had its fair share of change outs not due to injury, as well as an injury change out.