disco2000

How many times do you need to be told.... A policy against race is discrimination and illegal. A policy prohibiting minors is not discrimination and is not illegal. In fact, employer law says age discrimination is only for age 40 and over. A policy on age impacts EVERYONE regardless of race or nationality or sex or any other protected class. A policy on race only impacts that race. That is where discrimination comes in. Whether you agree or not is your opinion, but it is the law. Re-read the Knott's policy....Chaperones must accompany their party during entry, remain with their party at all times during their visit to the park, and be available by phone throughout their stay. It is a grey area and poorly worded, but one could argue that available by phone means they just need to be in the park because why else would they need to be available by phone if they are all together? And times have changed, so comparing something x number years ago to now is different....when KI opened they didn't have to worry about flying phones on rides as an example... Laws, policies, regulations come into effect as technology and society behavior change that warrants a need for said policy.

Keep looking...there are some survey markers within the park that showed up in the past week...

The only reason they are typically closed those weekends in September are due to private parties. Usually when a company backs out, the day would be added to the operating calendar. So if GE, P&G, Toyota, etc. decide not to host events for their employees at the park, then yes we could see that happen. But I suspect the park would prefer the guarantee income from the private party and would push for those to continue and not try to force those companies out simply to add public operating days to the schedule. The bigger question will be do we see them extend operating days and offerings in some form or fashion in the historical true "off-season" of January thru April, along with the weekends in November before Winterfest starts....

Did you get back all of your belongings or were things missing?

I totally agree LOL. It is why I worded it the way I did. It could be the spin they are putting on it. One positive comment sent to the park can be used to say they have received positive feedback. Notice their statement said nothing about negative feedback...nor did it mention attendance comparisons or number of security calls for comparable before and after chaperone policy days. But as you correctly pointed out, this is a private business and an amusement park is not a right or a given, so they can implement whatever legally allowed policy they want. As a consumer, you can chose to spend your discretionary income there or elsewhere. The park believes that any lost revenue due to the policy will be offset by increased revenue due to guests coming that are in favor of said policy.

I didn't make the assumption, the park did by implementing the policy... The park obviously has stats that suggest that it is the teens causing the largest percentage of problems. I agree with your statement "maybe it’s time for park security and if need be local police forces to take action rather than the laissez-faire approach seen in the parks. By action, I mean line jumping will get you thrown out, no exceptions, no kidding." In theory it sounds great, but the reality and practicality can prove difficult. The park has decided that security cannot be everywhere at every time, so they decided to implement a chaperone policy to potentially prevent it on the front end...much easier to enforce that policy at the front gate and deny entry and then because of that policy have the ability to stop any group in the park without a chaperone to confirm said chaperone is still on park premises than it is to staff, monitor and enforce no fights, line jumping, etc. policy within 300+ acres... Regarding the driving age, there have been talks about raising the age to 18 due to very things you outline... My point on the murders were that everyone involved (victim and perps) were 21 or under....so in all likelihood they were probably there in groups of people that would not have been present with a chaperone policy in place... But even if not, I was being a little sarcastic that given they were under 21, maybe the parks should go with no minors since they serve alcohol...thus my LOL on the end of my statement. Are there totally behaving minors in the park - absolutely. Are their mis-behaving adults in the park - absolutely. Rule-breakers come in all ages. But when the park analyzes that data and the majority of security calls are with minors, that is how and why they are targeted for policy and enforcement....

Laws and rules and policies are almost always the result of someone doing something they shouldn't...it has been that way since the beginning of society.... Contrary to your opinion, the park has indicated the policy has been so well received that they have extended the policy to additional days... And your argument about being old enough to drive is kinda weak...In the states a child is considered a minor until their 18th birthday, so Knott's saying no minors is an acceptable policy. Your argument has tried to be used regarding at what age one can buy a pack of smokes and alcohol...At 16 they can drive alone to a store to purchase those, so does that mean they should be allowed to purchase smokes and beer? I am sure the metrics are showing a park full of families makes more money than unruly teens...Parks have been catering more to family events and some have even got rid of their respective Haunt events in favor of family-friendly events....You go where the money is... Now you want to add the murders at Wonderland into the mix - those arrested in both incidents were under 21, so maybe the policy should be adjusted to age 21 following your logic? Hey they serve alcohol, so no minors allowed LOL. And keep in mind, the security and polices put in place since these incidents should greatly reduce the risk of a gun or knife within the park itself. We get it, no place is 100% safe and stuff can always happen, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have some law and order either. The best a business can do is adjust and evaluate and develop additional policies to try to prevent/minimize it the next time. Probably the biggest complainers are those that were the unruly ones anyway. If parents would actually parent their child and have discipline and consequences, then maybe this stuff wouldn't happen (well it still would because there is always that bad apple)... Here is a thread where some mom went to the news media saying "not my child" and her montage of images of her child at KI were rule breaking images (not of the incident in question, but did provide self-incriminating evidence alone that would be worthy of a ban)....

This happens all the time. Like daily. People don't use lockers and then wonder why their stuff was stolen. But we have even seen stuff stolen from lockers where someone was able to see the code or they fall for the person saying "Hey I just used this locker and it still has over an hour on it if you wanna use it" routine... Usually what happens is they search thru it and take what they can and throw the remains in the trash. Some will discard it where the leftovers can be found. My friend found hers in a trash can in the nearest bathroom to where her stuff was stolen. But the trash would be long gone now, so unless they ditched it in the landscaping, you probably won't see it again.

And not just any burger, but the worlds best burger!

And not just any burger, but the worlds best burger!

I learned today that Invertigo used to be Screamin Demon by one guest and later heard from another that Invertigo used to be King Cobra. I also learned today that Vortex was removed because someone died on it. Just for the record, none of this is true LOL.

It is awesome seeing these twin boys in-between shows or after the last show of the day bouncing and flipping around on the trampolines learning new stuff and just living their best life!

Meanwhile, I got a rock

Similar to past Cirque shows, KI will be having a few sensory-friendly performances of Phantom Theater Encore this week

+1 above! I have said it before and will say it again LOL: People can say all they want about Kentucky Kingdom, but when they put out a statement like this and gets media attention, it stops or the incident rate drops off tremendously...Will we ever see CF post a pic of a banned person and say don't be like him LOL... https://www.wave3.com/story/35658459/kentucky-kingdom-shares-photo-of-now-banned-coaster-rider-with-his-phone/ And they also need to improve their accountability. A ban is useless if they allow anyone to purchase a pass and use a fake name... https://www.wlwt.com/article/fake-name-on-gold-pass-leads-to-charges-being-dropped-in-kings-island-brawl/36623191# Now granted the KK incident above is from 2017 and you can find incidents there in 20 and 21, so of course there is always a bad apple that doesn't care - look how many laws are broken daily! Despite how stringent rules or laws or regulations are, there will always be that person that doesn't care. But It took 3 years for a serious enough incident to happen to make the news.... and most of us would file that under the results of the COVID shutdown and most of the population forgetting how to interact in public. But as long as there are ZERO consequences, whether it be line jumping, smoking, fighting, it will continue to get worse. Publicly announced consequences will be a deterrent to all but the worse offenders. Who knows how many more instances KK would have had without public shaming.... And yet we get a couple news stories a season about fights and fair amount of other issues like vaping in line and line jumping on social media at KI and the stories never conclude as to what the outcome was (ban, etc.). Until a large percentage of the park going population see that there are consequences, it will continue.

If that makes you feel better, continue to think that LOL. But those seats are molded in the color of choice LOL.

Inquiring minds wanna know LOL. Get us in the Haunt mood

Picture for those that do not remember or where not around when the seats were orange and had "human grease" LOL:

^will moving CORNered to a new place again count as a new attraction

Episode 6 has been uploaded.

I have seen instances where the ride ops have called a person out for line jumping by climbing thru the railings and made them go back to the entrance and start again. Then there is the safety issue of guests jumping/climbing thru the railings. Then there is the additional cleaning and trash removal at the end of the night for more queue being open. The goal is only open enough queue as is necessary to keep line from overflowing the entrance to minimize disruption, trash, accidents, etc., all that happen when more queue than is necessary is open.

Hopefully the rules violators don't come to appreciate his saying....

It will be a one-third replica of something LOL....maybe a 1/3 replica of a 1/3 replica of a 1/3 replica of the ride Towers in Tower Gardens.

Not even "The Most Magical Place on Earth" is exempt from fighting. https://wdwnt.com/2022/07/update-guest-involved-in-magic-kingdom-brawl-reveals-story-more-footage/

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