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It's in the latest revision to the Prestige+Family pass

^You can have that happen at KI too when they have only been trained for gold pass and you try to redeem a platinum meal plan. On their screen they are trained for the meal plan in the middle of the screen but the platinum is on the right side of the screen (or they were not paying attention during training lol) and they tell you that you don't have a meal plan. This has happened to several people I know after multiple visits to the park they were told they don't have a meal plan. Usually resolved when a super comes over. But I get your point.

Sorry for the double post. You may recognize some people and places....

^Yes it is rare to hear a CEO say the quiet parts out loud, and when they can him within the next six months, that is why CEOs don't say the quiet part out loud!

Plus they caveated it with "+Prestige + Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits" which most would interpret that you get the benefits the other park offers their prestige passholders (if the park has the program as not every park is doing this) as some parks may offer more or less than your home park. Previously, a platinum passholder with KI as their home park would get the same benefits going to CP as the platinum passholder with CP as their home park. So logically one would conclude that if you have a prestige+ pass, then you would get the prestige benefits another park provides. And @BoddaH1994 makes a good point, even for the parks that don't have Prestige, they should be able to print a single use front of the line pass for Prestige+ passholders visiting the park. But even so, one would expect to at least get that at the parks that do have the Prestige program. I am sounding like a broken record LOL, but if the benefits were meant to only be park specific, then this should have been a park-exclusive add-on to the platinum pass instead of this "premium" prestige+ pass that doesn't sound too premium as more attempts to clean up the language seem to devalue this pass offering.

^Some feel we need more bars

The wooded survey stake is literally within 30ish feet of the launchpad, between slingshot and Banshee. The pk-nail is between Slingshot and Hanks. That is simply a control point so they have a known X,Y,Z to go from.

Either way - they can take your photo right at the booth they scan you in if there is no photo attached or they don't like the photo.

The renewal site says the Fast Lane is not Valid on Saturdays or Sunday 9/4. So it will work any day this week except for Saturday. Enjoy FREE PARKING, exclusive perks, discounts, and more with your 2023 Gold Pass. All Passholders: Enjoy FREE visits the rest of this year and UNLIMITED visits in 2023 at Kings Island. Purchase between 8/11-8/14 and get 1 FREE Fall Fast Lane Plus to be used any one public operating day between 8/11-10/30/22. Excludes Saturdays & Sunday, 9/4.

As long as your payments are current, you are good to go. No blackout period. The free Fastlane ticket isn't good on Saturdays, just FYI.

Yep, I think guest services will be fielding lots of buyer remorse over this pass. I think many people bought it thinking it was more value than it is, plus it seems like every iteration of the conditions becomes more restrictive. I know several that bought it based on other's experiences of being able to get a front of the line to CP with a KI Prestige+ pass. My one group of friends went last weekend to to CP and got the front of the line ticket each day and they were turned down this weekend for it. But I also have several friends who they are part of the demographic that this will work well for - the grandparents that take their grandchildren to the park during the weekday and all the teachers out there that take their kids to the park and they now have a somewhat secluded area to work on getting ready for the next school year. I am sure some ride junkies will purchase as well, but I see this pass being more popular with the non-riders of the family. And you are right, on the hot days, there are a lot better AC places to cool down than a VIP lounge that is some tarps and fans LOL.

Fun, Fireworks and Fifty

Only one bar in the area? How about a space themed craft beer festival...

So will they refund those that purchased based on others being able to use at other parks lol (sarcastic rhetorical question)... I, and others, have said before, but it is sounding more and more like this should have been a park specific add-on instead of a new pass. The one-time front of the line perk at other parks with the program is a significant perk that the loss of that makes prestige+ less attractive.

The Prestige pass just good for KI is $299 total (plus fees and taxes). So if the gold pass is $130, the Prestige would be $169 more.

^Good catch - more and more so looking like this would have been better rolled out as a Prestige add-on rather than a new pass... So in the write up CP says it acts like a gold pass at other parks, yet in the write up for Platinum it says: Then, there’s a new “premium version” of the Platinum Pass that adds even more benefits. It’s the… NEW! PRESTIGE PLUS PASS which the gold pass comment obviously contradicts this. Wonder if CP meant to say platinum instead of gold? The roll-out of this and communication inconsistencies has been horrible, yet people are purchasing it even with all these discrepancies and unknowns....

Carowinds, Dominion, and Knotts have longer seasons, so one could assume all things being equal that they would be higher than KI and only Knotts is. Cost of living is higher in Charlotte than Cincinnati so that rules that difference out. CP and Wonderland seem woefully underpriced for the attendance they both get, especially Wonderland given the cost of living adjustments (even with the conversions) that is higher than Cincinnati.

^One could argue that KI gold should be higher than CP as we have Winterfest and our season starts earlier, yet that argument fails as Wonderland is also $99CND ($78USD) and they have Winterfest... The pricing scheme is very inconsistent this year.

Timberwolf returning confirmed

A flat tire

Will a tire driven lift hill suffer from the same problems of tire driven Surf Dog and Viking Fury during the rain?

^so based on this, it sounds like those that had KI Prestige + and went to CP and got the Prestige benefits like single use front of the line were in error and those that decided to purchase Prestige+ based on experiences others have shared about it working at CP are now "screwed"....I am sure some think that the single use front of the line at parks with Prestige found that to be a useful benefit and reason to purchase. I understand that the TOS indicate benefits and stuff can change and that will be the corporate line when people complain, but it really seems like some of this should be basic stuff that should have been nailed down prior to selling them. Was it that hard to decide before it went live if Prestige+ would allow the one time front of the line pass at any park offering such benefit? Or conditions of other benefits like the exclusive entrance? Clear communication seems to be a struggle with CF... And since the language is still not clear, based on CP language the front of the line, dedicated entrance, and preferred parking for those with Prestige+ for those that purchased at CP are only good there, yet if you purchase Prestige+ at KI the current language still says "+Prestige + Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits." and doesn't show the same limitations as the CP site, so does that mean one purchased at KI could give you those benefits at CP as folks have experienced but not the other way around? It really is sounding like they should have made this a season pass add-on instead of a new pass - I think a lot of this would have been clearer and easier that way...then it was either have only one add-on option that only worked at the "home park" OR provide one that extended said benefits to other parks with that program.

^I agree and is why I said in my post that was attacked that "Haunt is assumed and likely will happen" but the wording in the announcement is vague and does give them an out and wiggle room should they decide to go in a different direction. I was simply pointing this out that it can be interpreted different ways... Winterfest and Grand Carnivale is clear which parks are getting it based on the announcement; Haunt and Trick&Treats are assumed since they didn't specifically mention the parks...but the assumption is probably correct....but it isn't clear to a new or potential customer that may not be aware which parks currently have it. But most of us could have assumed the parks getting Winterfest and Grand Carnvale as well... Why be specific for two of the events and not the Fall events? As you said, anything can happen.

^I read it that way because they eliminated Haunt at two parks this year....and depending on how Haunt goes from a security standpoint, it is always possible that a park may decide not to continue with it... If all 10 parks were to have both why wouldn't they use AND instead of OR.... And why didn't they specifically mention the 10 parks for Tricks and Treats or Haunt....They specifically announced the parks getting Winterfest... Your wording above is much better and clearer... But as we have seen with the Prestige pass confusion, wording of statements are not their strong suit

It does seem odd that they are deviating a bit from their previous costing model. Could be a couple of different reasons: KI is a more valuable asset than the other parks so they are reflecting that in the pricing. Adjusting to cost of living/cost of doing business variations across the communities they have parks in. They sold too many gold passes to KI and are trying the Disney approach (that failed lol) at raising costs to better control attendance. Some other reason or no reason at all.