Shman Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Most likely track for Sea World Orlando's newest coaster Manta. Rumored to be a B&M Flying coaster
Vortex Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) It could very well be new track wonder what park is going to get it? Its not a flying coaster track, is the first time this has been posted on this site? Edited May 5, 2008 by Vortex
TheKlockster Posted May 5, 2008 Author Posted May 5, 2008 That's definitely not a flyer. The piece is there that goes at the very top of the lift hill. The chain runs on top of the track for sure. I couldn't tell if it's just a real steep B&M sit down, or a dive machine. The size of the spine doesn't seem big enough to be a dive machine. I remember seeing SheiKra's track and it was enormous. Look at the second photo real close. If you blow it up, right in front of that gray door is the piece I'm talking about.
PKIVortex Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Knowing how Cedar Fair loves to use red track, you can never tell if that's for our new in 2009 coaster or not. Time will tell.
Shman Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 I did not notice the piece of the lift hill the first time throught.....you do seem to be right though, seems like a standard side coaster and not an invert like the flyer would need.....interesting.
teenageninja Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 This is probably going to "disappear" soon, but it seems as though this is some sort of hyper track. I agree it looks to small to be Dive Machine track, and doesn't seem to fit a flyer, especially with that top of the lift section. Hopefully this is heading around the 275 loop.
TheKlockster Posted May 5, 2008 Author Posted May 5, 2008 Hopefully it won't disappear. I put it in the rumors forum. And the track is clearly visible to anyone driving down old 32 behind the old Ford plant, where all the B&Ms are made. Alot of the screamscape rumors say B&M hyper around 225 feet tall, and here's some red B&M track for you. Seems they usually do 4 or 5 a year so who knows.
SonofBeast07 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 ya, i saw these same pictures in another post about Manta, but you didn't include the pics with the guy who took them in it
TheKlockster Posted May 5, 2008 Author Posted May 5, 2008 They couldn't have been the same pictures, because I actually took these myself. Very possible that other people have taken pictures of it though, because as I said it is clearly visible to thousands of people every day. Also Manta is supposed to be a Flyer, and this is not flyer track.
PKIDelirium Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 And these photos were taken from the public road, unlike the others where the photographer had trespassed.
The Interpreter Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Perhaps you all are on the right track. Or, not. Terpy, who just HAD to
beastrider97 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Watch this video, it is a coaster in no limits which is rumered to come to Kings Island. The video is no longer available to be used on this site so go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtg3qm0Wiy8 for it.
Browntggrr Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 This track could still be for the new 2009 B & M being constructed at Mirabilandia in Italy.
Ki Man Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 It's too early for KI. Dude, they are still pouring concrete for the FOOTERS. There's not going to be vertical construction until late in the season. Why can't people just be patient?
Captain Picard Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 I can't tell from the pic the angle of the safety catch part to tell if that piece that is there goes at the very top of the lift hill or not. I need a better look at it before I would say that it's the top.
welchce Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Watch this video, it is a coaster in no limits which is rumered to come to Kings Island. The video is no longer available to be used on this site so go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtg3qm0Wiy8 for it. Very nice. I doubt B&M would put a turn right at the top of a hill instead of making it a curved drop, but that's just me.
flightoffear1996 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 I'm confused, where were these tracks seen at? At the steel B&M plant in Bativa OH
iChase Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Wow, a nice find indeed! Who knows if they're too early? Why not have the track ready to roll (so to speak)? The NoLimits mockup of the coaster seems pretty cool. A good guess at the least.
Gordon Bombay Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Because apparently everyone is an expert on how and who B&M makes their track for. Btw, it is not a B&M plant, the place is called Clermont Steel Fabrications, they are not owned by B&M but are a separate company that B&M contracts out. In the past they also made the support structures for Arrow coasters as well.
Browntggrr Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Wow, a nice find indeed! Who knows if they're too early? Why not have the track ready to roll (so to speak)? I believe what they meant by too early is that track construction is still a ways away and the chances of already having track ready for KI's 2009 project is unlikely. On top of that, we still have no way of knowing if the 2009 project is even going to be a B & M. My opinion is that the only evidence that this could be for KI is that the track is red.
welchce Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Because apparently everyone is an expert on how and who B&M makes their track for. Actually in order to find proof for my claim that B&M doesn't put turns at the top of hills but has hill curved, I found a few pictures in favor of both... Turn Kraken Chang Curved hill Montu Dominator I wonder if people at the Clermont Steel Plant are told what/where the track is for.
Browntggrr Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 I would have to say Raptor has a rather severe left turn before it's initial descent.
firehawkboy Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Most likely track for Sea World Orlando's newest coaster Manta. Rumored to be a B&M Flying coaster But Manta is Blue. I'm thinking positive and saying, "That is our track pieces for our new B&M. =]
Captain Nemo Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Does anyone here know how long it takes to create an entire set of track for a roller coaster?
CoastersRZ Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 In addition to the track and supports for B&M coasters, Clermont Steel has done a number of other amusement park related jobs. As Ronny mentioned, when Arrow was around, they manufactured the supports for Arrow`s rides (including Flight Deck [Top Gun] and The Vortex). Additionally, they manufactured the steel for the Eiffel Tower at Kings Island. Clermont Steel also manufactures structural steel for various building projects. In fact, the Rec Center at UC designed by Thom Mayne and Morphosis used steel that was fabricated by Clermont Steel. Clermont Steel used to be called Southern Ohio Fabrication Co. (SOFCo). It was renamed to Clermont Steel Fabricators, LLC in July of 2004 when Ken Miller and investors bought the company.
SOB_TOM Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 I would think its VERY unlikely that the track is not made this far in advanced. I'm not going to speculate where the track is going, however the last time I heard, it take roughly 18 months from conception to opening.
The Interpreter Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Whatever it is that is under construction at Kings Island has been in planning for a lot longer than eighteen months, already.
Hank Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 I would think its VERY unlikely that the track is not made this far in advanced. I'm not going to speculate where the track is going, however the last time I heard, it take roughly 18 months from conception to opening. I would think the track should almost be done by now! (if that track is for KI)
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