jsus Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Well, they're required to justify the park's subsidies through increased tourism, meaning they need to make it an attractive place for out-of-state visitors*. * This offer only available to targeted residents of Indiana and Tennessee. Some exclusions may apply. See security guard for details. It's a tourism program! 7 Quote
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Some guests are more desirable than others. Perhaps they could bring them in by the busloads, like casinos. 6 Quote
KatieF Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I've never actually read the comments on the KK Facebook until tonight. I'm not sure if I should laugh or feel sorry. There's a lot of emotions, but I guess what stands out the most is disappointment. 6 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Whining and passing the buck? Clearly, management of this park doesn't care to hire competent public relations staff. KK indeed does need better PR. However, it seems if in this situation, they are doomed if they do and doomed if they don't. To make such a bold statement in a public forum; I would imagine it's true. However, it may alienate them in the future, as the Dept. Of Ag is on the polar opposite end of the political spectrum. Regulatory officials rarely are concerned about the timelines of business (in my experience) but more about bureaucracy. But had I been on the Facebook page, I probably would have thought long and hard before posting that. 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I would submit ride inspectors are concerned about ride SAFETY. 8 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 another thought, I would presume, if one intended to open something to the public on Saturday, that it would be prudent to have the mandatory inspections wrapped sooner than the day before. I mean, what if the inspector finds something relatively small, but a required fix that could be re-inspected a day or two later? I don't know how inspections run in the roller coaster industry, but in my line of work, there always almost "something" that the inspector finds that he'd like to see changed or added. Having an inspection on Friday leaves little time to correct any issues that could arise. Oh, and throwing them under the bus publically, even if truthfully (and I'm not going to just assume the park is telling the whole truth), is a **** poor way to handle things. At most, say there was an issue with inspection and you are working to get everything in order as soon as possible. Even better, would be to simply apologize and say you are still testing and completing the final phase of the ride; hope to have it open soon. My interpretation was that the inspector was to show up the Friday before, not the day before. I agree with your second paragraph, but if you take that approach, folks will assume the worse of the park. Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I would submit ride inspectors are concerned about ride SAFETY. In an ideal world, yes. But remember, this is the Commonwealth and the Dept of Ag is being run by a person who ran for the Republican spot in the primary for governor. Also, regulators, regardless of party affiliation, are often more concerned with protecting the status quo than that of businesses. (I am speaking in a generality here, not specific to this instance because in all reality, I only can see KK's side of the story via Facebook.) Quote
malem Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 However, it seems if in this situation, they are doomed if they do and doomed if they don't. To make such a bold statement in a public forum; I would imagine it's true. Ensuring that rides are ready in time (including having completed inspections) is the responsibility of Kentucky Kingdom, not the department of agriculture. Maintaining effective communication and good relationships with agencies they depend on is also their responsibility. If the park wanted to explain the delay, a simple statement that they were still waiting on ride inspections would have sufficed. Whining and blaming others was not necessary or even remotely professional. 10 Quote
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 And people wonder why I say the Kingdom faces VERY high hurdles should the other party take over the state house in November. Remember, Mr. Hart's business partner ran against Mitch McConnell for Senate...and lost. Badly. 7 Quote
Imperial79 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Just read on Screamscrape that T3 is pushed back again and the June 6th opening now says 'Opening Soon'. Here's the link. http://www.screamscape.com/html/kentucky_kingdom.htm 2 Quote
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 The bigger surprise is on that page. Twisted Twins. RMC. Really? 6 Quote
NoChickens Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 The biggest surprise is Screamscape might have something right, without editing later. Though I'm kinda disapointed they didn't announce the exact date. Wich of course will be June 8th, or 9th, or 10th, or what ever day they edit it to be. 4 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Someone asked about T3 again on the park's Facebook page. The current response is that it's "coming soon"... 4 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 My fingers are crossed it will be open on the 7th...breath not held, but fingers crossed. 1 Quote
KIBeast Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 The easier question, Interpreter, may be what's not wrong with KK. It would be a much shorter list 1 Quote
homestar92 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 What's not wrong with Kentucky Kingdom? Well, they have one of the finest wooden coasters ever built, so at least they have that going for them. 7 Quote
WMAJrKY Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 What would really be nice if they had learned the value of under promising and over delivering. i.e. - We said June 6th but really it is opening 6/4 ahead of schedule. I'm just being optimistic, my hart knows the reality will be different. 4 Quote
jsus Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 For anyone still under the belief that June 6th is currently the promised date, it's not. KentuckyKingdom.com now lists "Coming soon" rather than a specific date, likely due to the reactions to their repeated over-promising and under-delivering. 2 Quote
KIBeast Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Well homestar, if customer service sucks as bad as what I've heard in this thread, then I don't care what rides/attractions they have. I'll spend my money elsewhere 3 Quote
RailRider Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 The constant confusion on Facebook regarding the deeply discounted prices for Indiana and Tennessee guests and not locals is raising lots of questions that the park really doesn't answer that well. Basically bring the Indy Star Ad and your picture ID, but they never mention you must be a resident of those 2 states. 2 Quote
KatieF Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 It official says "coming soon" on their website too. No bueno. Can't blame this on an inspector. I guess I'd rather it actually be safe than have it be opened and kill someone. Also, I noticed their notice about Hurricane Bay. Is that normal for a waterpark to rotate attractions because of as school's extended year? That makes no sense to me. 2 Quote
FoF96" Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 It is "normal" for that water park. They did that last season as well except as the season went on and employees quit. The water park then did not have enough employees and this bad habit continued. 3 Quote
Hoeter Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Okay...driving through Lexington yesterday on the way to Myrtle Beach and I heard a radio spot for KK. Cited USA Today that KK has one of the best waterparks in the United States. So much self worth in that ad. I needed a good laugh yesterday and I got it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 So for all their faults are we now knocking them when they do run an ad and in such tout a positive about the park. KK does have a pretty nice water park (even if all the slides are not open at the same time...) No offense man but I just don't how this is a negative. It's one thing to discuss the parks missteps here in hopes that they do certain things better in the future but some of the posts here boggle my mind. If a national newspaper ranked them as one of the best water parks in the US I would expect they run that in an ad and be proud of that. 3 Quote
TheCandyManCan Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 A Great Wolf Lodge that hasn't been updated in several years has everything open and is a more enjoyable waterpark than Kentucky Kingdom. However, I'm a sucker for Proslide Hydromagnetic Coasters 3 Quote
homestar92 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 ^ Which Hartland has one of. Deluge. And it's a great ride. 4 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I have not been to Great Wolf but it does look nice. My point however is how can we bash them for not advertising and then turn around and take another swing when they do? Is this conversation still a reasonable critique or are we just going after KK for every single action/inaction good or bad? The former can be very interesting to read and discuss, the latter not so much. 7 Quote
Gabe Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 The main critique has been how a park that is able to operate thanks in large part to KY taxpayer $$ is then able to turn around and offer a steep discount on admission to residents of Indiana and Tennessee, yet their own home state residents are expected to pay full freight. I'm certain that issue will be raised in the fall elections. As mentioned before, the fate of the park beyond this year does hinge in large part on who becomes Gov. 3 Quote
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