BeeastFarmer Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Not that I am privy to any inside information, but my conjecture is AIG was seeking to protect the interest it has in the Biblical presentation of the Ark. Once hired, it might be difficult to fire someone who espouses a contrary view. For example, if an evolutionist is hired, s/he may float the guests on a different boat. I would see the "faith statement" as a litmus test for new hires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Kentucky is an "at will" state. An employer can fire an employee for absolutely no reason whatsoever. "I don't want you anymore" is a valid reason, absent a contract saying otherwise. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 God?Terp, who likes to ask questions. Maybe, but I'm sure he doesn't have a huge interest in Ham's employment models.. not enough to say anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Kentucky is an "at will" state. An employer can fire an employee for absolutely no reason whatsoever. "I don't want you anymore" is a valid reason, absent a contract saying otherwise. Easier said than done. Having employed people in another at-will state, I can say from experience that costly and unnecessary lawsuits can be filed against a business when someone is fired for documented reasons, much less for "I don't want you anymore" reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 What did this "preventative" effort cost Ark Park so far? Incentives? Lawsuits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 It appears to have cost them much. But they press on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Mile High Falls "Glass" Shatters: http://m.wave3.com/wave/db_336805/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=JboQdHnI And where the thunder is PR to say it isn't glass? Sigh. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 oh wow...I took my daughter on MHF for the first time Saturday. She was very proud of herself for riding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoF96" Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Terp, maybe they're in Kansas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 According to Oldschool75 at 11:19 AM EDT here: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/29795-current-wait-times/page-44#entry696448 Kentucky Kingdom had "very little wait" Sunday. With free unlimited soft drinks, glorious weather, and bring a friend day. Not good news. At all. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindingSon Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 And on the same Sunday that KI appeared to be packed to the gills. Hmmm. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Pricing integrity thrown to the wind: http://www.courier-journal.com/story/entertainment/events/2015/09/02/kentucky-kingdoms-labor-day-give-way-weekend/71563246/ Sept 5-7 BOGO Admission: the get one good same day or rest of season. Free unlimited soft drinks. On a holiday weekend. Did someone miss admission targets AGAIN? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Saturday there was little wait on the dry side of the park. It was hot as Hades so the water park was packed. Storms rolled in about supper time so we grabbed a bite to eat and headed out. I don't know if they ever re-opened the rides. Hurricane Bay is by far the big draw for the park at this point. It probably always will be to some extent even as they add more rides. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 So why in thunder was it closed during the Fair? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Staffing issues maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Staffing issues maybe? I'll buy that for the week days but it does not explain the weekend. I bet there are some sort of stipulations with the fair board we are not privy to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yep. And a carnival operator was even less amused this year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 According to Oldschool75 at 11:19 AM EDT here: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/29795-current-wait-times/page-44#entry696448 Kentucky Kingdom had "very little wait" Sunday. With free unlimited soft drinks, glorious weather, and bring a friend day. Not good news. At all. And on the same Sunday that KI appeared to be packed to the gills. Hmmm. And this is with slightly more expensive deals at KI ($1 soft drinks vs. free soft drinks)... Also, I was searching to find info on if KK's bring a friend day was bring a friend free or not (as KI's was/is not), and I saw an ad for Disney in a advert box that said "Searching for Kentucky Kingdom?" I kid you not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Kentucky Kingdom was/is buy a ticket get an admission free--good that day or any day the rest of their very short season. See the 11:59 AM post above yours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Ok, gotcha. I just misunderstood the concept of BOGO for a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Maybe it would be better for all involved if another carnival operator was found that could bring something unique that could draw people through the gates rather than forcing KK to shutdown its biggest draw (which would also bring people through the the fair's gate) The State Fair midway is not what used to be. There used to be rides there that you did not see at smaller county fairs. Now it is more or less a big county fair with two of every ride. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 And the presence of an open Kentucky Kingdom CAUSES that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoF96" Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It was the same with a closed Kingdom. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not really. Since Kentucky Kingdom has been offering $9.95 advance purchase at Kroger unlimited rides during the fair, no carnival operator is going to bring their best rides to the fair. During the time the Kingdom was closed, operators were unwilling to take on the risk that the Kingdom would reopen and compete with it. There are many reasons the Fair Board simply can't get a better carnival, but most of them include Kentucky Kingdom. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 If the carnival operator is unwilling to bring their best stuff, they can boo hoo all they want. It's not like the rides at the Kingdom are a secret. If there is already going to be a Larson Drop Tower at KK, why bring 2 more? Bring something different. If the Kingdom has a Giant Wheel, don't bring your less than giant wheel (how about bring one of those awesome double decker ones they used to have) Give people something different to spend their money on. Bring stuff to complement, not compete. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 There are fewer carnival operators than there are fairs that want them. Consolidation has hit the carnival business bigtime. The fact of the matter is operators now decide what they are willing to bid on and bring, venues are lucky in many cases to get ANY bidder. When the current Fair contract is up, it would not surprise me a bit if NO carnival operator bid on the Kentucky State Fair. Add to all this that the Kentucky Fair is now AFTER most schools are back in session. The Kentucky State Fair has many problems, and the Kingdom being open isn't helping. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The timing really is hurting them. I wonder how difficult it would be logistically to move the fair to an earlier date so they are not dealing with school being in session. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No major carnival operator has any open dates before the current fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Just wacthed the news report for MHF on Wave 3 however, instead of footage of MHF all the footage for the report was from Deep Water Dive. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Mile High Falls "Glass" Shatters: http://m.wave3.com/wave/db_336805/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=JboQdHnI And where the thunder is PR to say it isn't glass? Sigh. You gotta be kidding me: http://m.14news.com/14news/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od%3A1N3Et1Ny Just when I think the PR staff couldn't possibly be any less competent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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