bkroz Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There was something different about Son of Beast. Had there not been, someone other than RCCA (and RCCO in the building) would probably have designed and built it (at least partly...see also Paramount Parks) and it would probably still be amongst us. This was disproven as Son of Beast's loop was removed for some years before it came crashing down. It was more than just the loop that made Son of Beast different. And more than the loop that sealed its fate, obviously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There was something different about Son of Beast. Had there not been, someone other than RCCA (and RCCO in the building) would probably have designed and built it (at least partly...see also Paramount Parks) and it would probably still be amongst us. This was disproven as Son of Beast's loop was removed for some years before it came crashing down. No. It wasn't. The point is, had there been no loop, others would have bid that did not, and lighter trains could have been used, as the makers of preferred trains did not allow their use on the original Son of Beast. See, for example, Philadelphia Toboggan Coasters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI Guy Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It was stubbornness killed the (Son of) Beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Where do yall think the giga is going to be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Carowinds. Helpful Terpy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I hope Kings Island gets a giga 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsislandfan1972 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 How about another classic wooden coaster, Kings Island hasnt got a new one in a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marth555 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I think KI has classic woodies covered 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I agree. Between Racer, Beast, and Woodstock Express we have some good classic woodies. There's many parks that don't have what we do even. Would love to see a hybrid coaster though. Think one could go great back in Rivertown. Would like to see a giga sometime too but think there are other types that would be better first, as many gigas are similar to hypers. But if they did a giga that was more than just a taller Diamondback then yea I'd be all for it. Still rather see some more dark rides and flat rides first though too to give more stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Beast has not only been fully capitalized, it's always capitalized here.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I think KI has classic woodies covered The park may have "classic woodies covered" but we still lack a GCI type wooden roller coaster. I'm not complaining though, I do LOVE all 3 of the woodies at Kings Island, I just wish we had a nice GCI at the park to REALLY draw me. Six Flags St. Louis has a PERFECT example of a quality and diverse wooden coaster lineup, as I've stated on this site before. The Boss. Screamin' Eagle. And last but of course not least..... American Thunder. THAT'S a diverse wooden roller coaster lineup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Just be glad the Hurler planned for the Tiques site didn't materialize. Then again, if it had, would we have Banshee? Hmmmm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I think KI has classic woodies covered The park may have "classic woodies covered" but we still lack a GCI type wooden roller coaster. I'm not complaining though, I do LOVE all 3 of the woodies at Kings Island, I just wish we had a nice GCI at the park to REALLY draw me. Six Flags St. Louis has a PERFECT example of a quality and diverse wooden coaster lineup, as I've stated on this site before. The Boss. Screamin' Eagle. And last but of course not least..... American Thunder. THAT'S a diverse wooden roller coaster lineup. FTW, resident SFStL fanatic and strong believer that that park is severely underappreciated. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I've said it before, but I'll say it again. If it wasn't for Cedar Fairs relations with INTAMIN, and El Toro like coaster would round out the woodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Really? Please explain why Six Flags stopped buying INTAMIN wooden coasters after El Toro. They certainly have had numerous opportunities to buy more, and....haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 ok, SIX, and FUN, lol The point is valid though, an El Toro like coaster would be grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 And Herschend, SeaWorld Entertainment, Parks America, etc. In fact, no North American park has bought an INTAMIN woodie since El Toro. No park anywhere has bought another INTAMIN plug and play woodie since T Express in South Korea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Just to add to the Intamin fun, no North American park has bought an INTAMIN coaster of any sorts since SKYRUSH (Opened in 2012). Now that Planet Snoopy is getting a little love with what appear to be two solid additions and removing one horrendously laid out water thingy (seriously if they would have just demolished Snoopy Splash Dance, or reconfigured it so that kids entered and exited the attraction in a similar location I would have considered it wondrous), makes me wonder what is on tap for next season. Since the installation of Diamondback, they've kind of moved around the park, Coney Mall got some love with the addition of WindSeeker, the water park got some love, obviously Action Zone. So what part of the park hasn't seen any love lately? International street. Upgrade the fountain so they can incorporate some sort of "water show" along with the fireworks, upgrade the front gate to modernize it a bit like other parks have done, a revamp of Boo Blasters and do something with Tower Gardens. A bunch of "little" projects that added together will cost a fair amount, but in the end I think really revamp the first part of the park many people see (perhaps a small flat addition to Oktoberfest while they're at it). That's my prediction, until proven otherwise. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny1388 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 October was my first visit in 15yrs, but the front gate only 'needs' some cosmetic update, IMO. I mean, it's a park entrance. I'm not sure how much different it can be made (granted, it's not changed as far as I can tell since my first visit ~1980). An upgrade to the fountains would be cool...I think a Ballagio-style water show would go over very well with park visitors and add some entertainment for folks grabbing a bite to eat in the area.Why limit it to during fireworks? Let it run every 30min or so. edit: i was half asleep, I think, when I posted the first time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 There is lots they could do with the front gate aside from revamping the aesthetics.. Revamp the restaurant (assuming the Reds HOF grille is performing as expected) to offer that experience during regular park hours, perhaps a premium upgrade to include patio dining/viewing during the fireworks. Bring it up to code for ADA compliance (allegedly an issue I've read on this site?). Perhaps open up on select days prior to the park opening to offer breakfast (or dinner on Fridays during the Haunt). Perhaps make it available for rental during the offseason (or even in season potentially) for holiday parties, large gatherings, weddings, etc... Perhaps even add a food stand on the perimeter of the park to offer guests another option for when they're leaving the park, hopefully freeing up some of the places near the front entrance to start cleaning up a little earlier. offer electronic ticket kiosks, hopefully enabling customers to get into the park a little quicker, add perks to their season pass, purchase future tickets, etc... I usually come mid-week in the evening, so the ticket line is sparsely used at that point, but on the occasions that I've come on a weekend early in the season or during the Haunt, it seems like the line backs up a decent amount. The intent behind the electronic kiosks would be to get people into the park a little quicker, a side benefit would be reducing overhead. Modify the guest services counter. It seemingly meets it needs, but it also feels dated and stale. Overall, I like the experience you get when you pass under the restaurant and all of a sudden are hit with the sound of the fountains, a little breeze and the view of the Tower, so I'd incorporate that experience into any redesign, but as a certain NON expert, I see potential to update the look, make a couple different areas to increase revenue as well as a couple of different areas to reduce costs. With many other CF parks getting new front gates, I think its only a matter of time before KI gets their facelift, to what extent we shall see. As far as the fountains, you could run them on any time clock you wish, I'd agree to keep some version of the show thru the course of the day, but if the intent of the fireworks is to keep patrons in the park until the very end, likely increasing the spending of said visitor inside the park until the end of the day, I'd save the best "water show" until the fireworks, incorporating lighting along with the water effects that would make families want to come back and stay thru the evening every year. How many people watch the fireworks from the parking lot? You can see them just as well from out there, so they hurry back to their car watch them soar into the sky, then get out of the lot before it gets too crowded, perhaps even hitting up McDonalds on the way home for a bite to eat. The changes above could help KI pick up some of that money/time that their patrons are spending outside of the park. Offer a little more seating, particularly in the shade near the front gate for patrons who want to pack their lunch, but prefer not to eat it out by their car. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantisMan Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 If I'm not mistaken......the front gate some updates last season. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekidd33 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think KI has classic woodies covered The park may have "classic woodies covered" but we still lack a GCI type wooden roller coaster. I'm not complaining though, I do LOVE all 3 of the woodies at Kings Island, I just wish we had a nice GCI at the park to REALLY draw me. I would love to see a twisty GCI at KI. (Or CP, or MA.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Be cool to see some fountain upgrade that incorporates some sort of water and light show. And some TLC on Boo Blasters or new dark ride would be welcome too. That said we are getting some work on International Street this year as well as the Planet Snoopy additions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekidd33 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 ^Given recent additions in the chain I think a dark ride might be a safe bet. If only there was some sort of building already constructed to house such a ride... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBlade21 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 ^Given recent additions in the chain I think a dark ride might be a safe bet. If only there was some sort of building already constructed to house such a ride... Agreed. Additionally, a waterpark expansion would be a safe bet seeing as KD, CW, and VF are getting one this year while Carowinds, and DP got one the previous year. Yes, I know we just got Soak City in 2012 but, in my opinion, it was just a fresh coat of paint for everything and the addition of a much needed new wave pool with Tidal Wave Bay. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondyRidesOn Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If the park does do a fountain show in the Royal Fountain, it might go in the order of 10 PM Fireworks first, then fountain show, only because it would not be dark enough before 10 to do it the other way around. Looking at the Canada's Wonderland show, the tectured lighting would probably be a poor choice to use, if a show ever is done at Kings Island, because of the dangers of epileptic seziures caused by flashing bright lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Aren't physical reactions in Canada the same as in the United States of America? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondyRidesOn Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Yes, they are the same. I was just pointing out the major risk it is, at both parks, to use textured lighting in the fountain show, I probably worded it wrong. One person may not be affected by it, however another might. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I would just like to see the wrecking ball come in on the front gate, and build a nice, new, and more efficient one with a restaurant on top. I'm sure the day will come. And maybe sooner than you think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuskin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 That makes me wonder if they would even do that, or if it will be a more open gate like other recent gates they have redesigned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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