silver2005 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As much as I wouldn't trust Intamin currently, I do hope they're at least trying to do better in that area. They do have some interesting concepts. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Goddard Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I really want Taron to be reliable for Intamin's sake, maybe it can spark some interest from NA parks. I just don't know why people would go to Intamin anymore when B&M can basically do anything they can but more reliably. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Taron looks amazing; it's almost like Maverick on steroids (and that's saying something as Maverick is my favorite roller coaster anywhere!)! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Intamin wooden at KI? I'll take the risk and pay for the opportunity. As Tool says...'push the envelope...watch it bend.'. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce1994 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 And for pretty much definitive proof, its a GCI: Thats the motor block foundation plan that Kenban posted here: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/31913-decoding-episode-ii-rivertown-2017-and-the-falling-trees/?p=737049 And a picture of the lift on Heidi from rcdb here: http://rcdb.com/7645.htm#p=68515 They match. Heidi is a GCI being built in Belgium now. I hate to burst your bubble, but RMCs use a similar motor block. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I hate to burst your bubble, but RMCs use a similar motor block. Find a pic. And find a pic of an RMC footer with the ties shown in the KI plans while you are at it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I hate to agree...but everything to me feels GCI. And that is completely fine here. I wish for an RMC...but will more than welcome the other. Phenomenal setting for a wooden or hybrid. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As much as I wouldn't trust Intamin currently, I do hope they're at least trying to do better in that area. They do have some interesting concepts. B&M can do anything, forceless that is... Rhyano, an Intamin fanboy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As much as I wouldn't trust Intamin currently, I do hope they're at least trying to do better in that area. They do have some interesting concepts. B&M can do anything, forceless that is... Rhyano, an Intamin fanboy Says you. I don't find B&M's forceless. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayzayd13 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 B&M Forceless? Have you never ridden Banshee? In the back? on the edges? Not to mention the old school inverts such as the batman clones and Raptor. And let me not forget Rougarou. Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 They aren't forceless, they just don't whip you around like Intamin's tend to 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethancoaster Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As much as I wouldn't trust Intamin currently, I do hope they're at least trying to do better in that area. They do have some interesting concepts.B&M can do anything, forceless that is... Rhyano, an Intamin fanboy Something tells me you haven't made it to my neck of the woods yet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I've ridden Banshee, Diamondback, and Fury, I love those rides, but every other B&M is just ehhhh, I have my opinions, you have yours 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien6221 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Accidents don't seem to matter to Intamin based on their track record i'm sure there has been an "acceptable" number of incidents Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk Do they even have a track "record"?Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback FOF Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 That's the question tho: do they? Obviously, they need to have the complete schematic to actually build the coaster, but I'm not so certain that the entire plans need to be submitted to the city. Try to build something in the city of Mason and tell the city you are just going to submit a footer plan. Or just part of a footer plan. They have to submit complete plans to get a building permit. Now those plans may be sealed and hidden from the public, but they do have to be submitted and approved before the first shovel of dirt is turned over. Actually, the only plans (in terms of vertical construction) that were required for Banshee were foundation plans (location, type, size, and test data after doing the cylinder breaks post-pouring). Anything above the foundations (i.e. ride supports and track) did NOT have to be submitted; Mason did not have to review and approve that. Now, other parts of the design plans like grading, environmental (drainage, SWPPP), etc. may have been required, but most people here don't care about that (and don't give info regarding the actual ride. Could there be different requirements for a wooden coaster? Maybe, but doubtful. It wouldn't make sense. If I could actually review the full set... Edit: Accidents don't seem to matter to Intamin based on their track record i'm sure there has been an "acceptable" number of incidents Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk Do they even have a track "record"?Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk There can be a record for anything haha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejdumm Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I've ridden Banshee, Diamondback, and Fury, I love those rides, but every other B&M is just ehhhh, I have my opinions, you have yours I rode Gatekeeper a few weeks ago and was surprised how good of a ride it is. I think it's way better than Valravn and almost as good as Banshee. Just seems under rated IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucgrady Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 At the very least the plans for the station, queue, maintenance building etc would need to be submitted for a building permit. Ensuring these adhere to building codes, accessibility codes etc would all be required. Also I'm not sure about the ride itself, but being wood makes it more flammable and therefore might require more stringent codes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejdumm Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I rode Gatekeeper a few weeks ago and was surprised how good of a ride it is. I think it's way better than Valravn and almost as good as Banshee. Just seems under rated IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I'm definitely one to recommend meetups (here's a FAQ I posted awhile back), but some members have reasons for staying anonymous - which is completely fine. Members who make respectful posts & consistently follow the rules generally don't get accused of trolling. It's not necessarily that they want to remain anonymous, they are just scared you'll run them to death. Yeah, you're never going to let me live that down. I'll admit to it being my suggestion, but you agreed! (When it's night ERT with 23 minutes remaining, and you're at Beast having yet to partake in a Banshee night ride, desperate times can call for desperate measures. We made the 0.5mi trek in 6 minutes, so we technically could have been power walking.) Seriously, though, more people should post in the meetups forum. Anymore, it seems that ~80% of the threads are mine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavPenn Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 In this section of WWC where the coaster could possibly cross, Would you rather... GCI Or RMC 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AintNutinElse2Do Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^Would be nice for the latter. That's one thing I love about how RMC constructs their coasters. Generally no cat-walks beyond the lifts/launch and the ability to have a more "open" experience with the surroundings. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Goddard Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^^ It isn't a matter of what I want more but what is the reality of the situation. I would love to see an RMC coaster being put in, but I don't think it is going to happen. Another key thing here is that the past 3 roller coasters put in have been "high intensity" which leaves a hole for the target guests, families. Do I think this ride is going to be a kiddie coaster No, but I think it is going to be a nice inbetweener coaster, based on what we have available. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I'm definitely one to recommend meetups (here's a FAQ I posted awhile back), but some members have reasons for staying anonymous - which is completely fine. Members who make respectful posts & consistently follow the rules generally don't get accused of trolling.It's not necessarily that they want to remain anonymous, they are just scared you'll run them to death. Yeah, you're never going to let me live that down. I'll admit to it being my suggestion, but you agreed! (When it's night ERT with 23 minutes remaining, and you're at Beast having yet to partake in a Banshee night ride, desperate times can call for desperate measures. We made the 0.5mi trek in 6 minutes, so we technically could have been power walking.) Seriously, though, more people should post in the meetups forum. Anymore, it seems that ~80% of the threads are mine. Yes I did. And had a great time doing it. I hope to be in better shape next time. And not a round shape. I am hoping to make at least one more meet up before the season is over with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium2018 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 At this point I don't really care what we get. I prefer a RMC, but wouldn't care if we got a GCI. I read something on this form about GCI being able to do inversions, honestly I will be fine with whatever we get as long as it barrel rolls over the reservoir (If it does indeed go over the reservoir) I just think that would be an incredible element to have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP Maverick Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^Would be nice for the latter. That's one thing I love about how RMC constructs their coasters. Generally no cat-walks beyond the lifts/launch and the ability to have a more "open" experience with the surroundings.That's almost exactly why I wouldn't choose RMC over GCI. I love the look of traditional wooden coasters. I also don't rate inversions very highly, so that wouldn't be a selling point for me.Accessibility plans only need to be submitted for the loading station. They can probably wait to get those done. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikkinixx99 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I love the look of a wooden coaster. But didn't those guys on YouTube who broke down the prints they had say steel structure or did I missunderstand them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Goddard Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^ They said that it is likely that it will have a white steel structure, but others like Oldschool have said that the term "girder truss" in the plans is for the bridge. I think a steel structure makes sense with the amount of lateral supports seen on the structure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Gal Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^ They said that it is likely that it will have a white steel structure, but others like Oldschool have said that the term "girder truss" in the plans is for the bridge. I think a steel structure makes sense with the amount of lateral supports seen on the structure. I am not putting much stock in 2 guys doing a coaster special out of their parents' basements. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^Odd since you put all your stock in someone on here with no sources whatsoever Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^^ I take it you know them and their folks? Freaks, who kids. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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