silver2005 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The 2nd and 3rd hills almost resemble top hats with the way they're shaped, loving the look of the outside banked turns. These are probably my favorite trains aesthetically of any RMC has created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 This is going to be a great ride! Wondering what kind of height requirement there will be on this one? My son will be 52" by next summer and he's hoping to get to ride it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 RMC's have a 48" requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xdog42 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 This thing is CRAZY, The ending of this coaster is WILD, it reminds me of Lighting Rod's Quad Down, but on this thing you go over 6 hills. This is likely going to be the best Coaster at CP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Thanks Silver2005! I was wondering if it would be any bigger, with the inversions and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 ^I went through some of the bigger Iron Horse conversions like New Texas Giant and Iron Rattler just to double check, and those are still indeed 48". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstnline Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I have a feeling Coastermania tickets will be in high demand and sell out quickly. Not only that, the entrance gate by Magnum will be jam packed all season next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubJester Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 First off, this thing is an absolute beast. The most airtime in the WORLD! That's one of many things Steel Vengeance will bring to the table. I also really like the logo and the name. The name itself I didn't see coming or hear anyone predict it. Which makes it even more special. I like how they made "Steel" actually steel looking and made Vengeance wood looking. Really representing the fact it is a hybrid coaster. I also really like the intro they did. Intro video: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaestroJr Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 This is going to be a awesome ride that already looks crazy! I look forward to a Cedar Point trip in 2018! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 6 hours ago, firstnline said: I have a feeling Coastermania tickets will be in high demand and sell out quickly. Not only that, the entrance gate by Magnum will be jam packed all season next year. They are already addressing some of that this seasons as you cannot park in the CPS lot until 9:30 as and CPS ERT starts at 10:30. (Of course this won't stop @Malem as he will just sprint from the Marina gate and be front row, first train every time) Ryan and I just got back from CP and two front row rides on Maverick. This has the potential of edging out Maverick as my favorite coaster but has some pretty big shoes to fill. In addition the current restraints on Maverick are the most comfortable (for me) of ANY coaster I have ever been on steel or wood. (Even The Bat/Iron Dragon or Diamondback my second favorite.) They are going to have to rent some barges and park them in the bay to hold the que for this thing next season. Ryan is already asking me to get him a copy of Planet Coaster for his birthday. A little reluctant as I have bought RCT 1-3 for a few bucks on a Steam sale and he hasn't touched them. Great meeting Chris for the first time and seeing Pioanoman again! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubJester Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'm hearing a lot of the general public freaking out that it doesn't have shoulder restraints because it goes upside down. Despite the other coasters that do the exact same thing. "The GP is strong with this one." 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 ^Fantastic! Maybe they will go ride Corkscrew instead. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 TBF, they may have the NTAG incident on their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekidd33 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Steel Vengeance next to Maverick seems unfair to every other park. This looks like a fantastic addition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 My friend sent me an e-mail this morning with an article about Mean Streak Henry, and that got me thinking... I wonder what his thoughts are on Steel Vengeance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I would have reacted to this yesterday, but alas I was busy. However, I will leave my thoughts now... ...HOLY TOLEDO THIS RIDE LOOKS INCREDIBLE. Over 200 feet tall, first coaster with a wooden structure since Son of Beast to go that high (even though it is steel track). Which also- as the marketing clearly said- makes it the tallest and fastest of all steel/wood hybrid coasters. All 4 inversions looks great, and it promises more airtime than any other coaster period, which to me is the biggest selling point. I also love how they made a backstory about Frontier Town and how this ride came to be, and they even included Maverick in the story. In fact I am quite happy Cedar Fair under Ouimet has started doing this for the new coasters- I enjoy it when they have backstories. A lot of awesome new coasters were announced yesterday. 2018 in general already looks stacked, and this- at least for now- looks to sit on top of that stack. Unless Six Flags or someone does something really crazy or something. This will be hard to top, however... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Something to think about, but these hybrid coasters are not indeed a first of their kind. Gemini at Cedar Point has wood supports and steel track. Plus, there are several other examples, i.e just about any Arrow mine train coaster. They are first in a sense of re-tracked wooden coasters with this type of track used, but still... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I would love to see what the cost difference is between using the old structure versus building new. It seems like there is a lot more labor to use the old. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Lumber in general has been getting really expensive and the starting off new I imagine would require new footings and probably removal of all the old ones. MS has a ton of footings. Did they dig up all the old ones for SOB or just bury them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Son of Beast's footings were removed during demolition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubJester Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 13 hours ago, King Ding Dong said: ^Fantastic! Maybe they will go ride Corkscrew instead. Yeah! Well the other day someone said they thought Corkscrew was way smoother than Maverick... (with the new restraints) 13 hours ago, silver2005 said: TBF, they may have the NTAG incident on their minds. That's what I thought at first, but the more they talked the more I realized they thought this was the first roller coaster to ever do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterguy15 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 After watching the POV, I noticed there only seemed to be one train running around the track. This got me wondering whether or not during normal 3 train operation we would see another train while riding throughout the course. So, with assumptions that the Steel Vengeance crew hits their intervals and the POV is real operational speed, I decided to put math to use. CP says 1200 people per hour (pph) with 24 passengers per train. 1200/24=50 trains per hour (cycles). Knowing there are 3600 seconds per hour, 3600/50=72 seconds per cycle. Here's where the POV comes in handy. It takes 45 seconds for the train to leave the station and crest the lift hill. At the 72 second mark, we make our first pass under the lift hill, at which time the next train will be leaving the station. 45 seconds from there, the train behind us will be cresting the lift hill while we are enjoying the frenetic airtime pops before the brake run (next to the first drop). So assumptions in mind, we will hopefully be able to see another train while riding Steel Vengeance (similar to seeing the finishing 'helix' train while going down the first drop on The Beast). It would be a brief interaction though, and I think most people would be too preoccupied with the enormous drop or the face-melting airtime pops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubJester Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 59 minutes ago, coasterguy15 said: After watching the POV, I noticed there only seemed to be one train running around the track. I didn't see any in the station at the end of the POV. I'm assuming that it just had one train in this animation. That would of been cool to see another train. Wonder if there is going to be bins or not? (Screenshot of Cedar Point's POV Video) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaestroJr Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 6 hours ago, King Ding Dong said: Lumber in general has been getting really expensive and the starting off new I imagine would require new footings and probably removal of all the old ones. MS has a ton of footings. Did they dig up all the old ones for SOB or just bury them? There still is many footers under the old Son of Beast station/modern wolf pack maze. Along with the station track as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 5 hours ago, JubJester said: Yeah! Well the other day someone said they thought Corkscrew was way smoother than Maverick... (with the new restraints) More evidence of the ravages of the opioid epidemic in Ohio. 4 hours ago, coasterguy15 said: It would be a brief interaction though, and I think most people would be too preoccupied with the enormous drop or the face-melting airtime pops. Remember all the people last year praising the "interaction" between MT and WWC? Has anyone even noticed WWC exists while riding MT? I sure haven't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 ^heck yes! I love when there is someone actually on one of the rafts going by when I speed past them, so I can wave at them! Although, usually, I ride either during ERT, when WWC hasn't yet started up for the day, or at the end of the night. But it is really cool when I can interact with WWC from MT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 My guess (having not yet ridden White Water Canyon this year) is that White Water Canyon riders are far more likely to notice Mystic Timbers than Mystic Timbers riders are to notice White Water Canyon. So there is interaction, but only from one side for the most part. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If you have a strong sense of smell, you may notice the distinctive aroma of a chlorinated water ride as you pass over the reservoir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Magenta if someone on WWC ever flips you the bird when you wave at them it is probably me expressing my sentiment for having my rafting adventure through the woods ruined by some noisy coaster overhead. /jk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 On 8/17/2017 at 7:55 AM, MDMC01 said: My friend sent me an e-mail this morning with an article about Mean Streak Henry, and that got me thinking... I wonder what his thoughts are on Steel Vengeance? I talked to him at the announcement, he is excited for it, and believes it will be a fun ride. Henry will still use the Mean Streak moniker, as that is what he is known for. On 8/17/2017 at 1:05 PM, JubJester said: Yeah! Well the other day someone said they thought Corkscrew was way smoother than Maverick... (with the new restraints) I find corkscrew smoother and much more comfortable than Maverick. Even with the new restraints I find Maverick uncomfortable and always get off in pain. Corkscrew I can ride with out any issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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