Tera Ryzing Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kenban said: What he said was that the parks recently made presentations to Cedar Fair management about what they want for the next three to four years. Basiclly their wishlist additions. He stated KI asked for a giga. Would kic'ers be upset if we got an intamin giga over b&m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, Tera Ryzing said: Would kic'ers be upset if we got an intamin giga over b&m? I would prefer B&M due to the better reliability, since a ride is no fun if it's down every time you try to ride it (see @King Ding Dong's ongoing battle with WindSeeker), but I'll take the giga either way. After all, we're just begging for a giga, and beggars can't be choosers. That said, Cedar Fair's issues with Intamin are well-known, and their resulting lack of any recent projects with Intamin speaks volumes as to which manufacturer is more likely to be used for a KI giga. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 @Tera Ryzing, you obviously need a bit of a history lesson on why US parks avoid Intamin. http://rec.roller-coaster.narkive.com/wnY2sKrx/bizarre-quote-from-sandor-kernacs-of-intamin-on-the-sros-accident http://www.thebatavian.com/howard-owens/final-sheriffs-office-report-death-dariens-ride-steel-contains-new-details/27870 Rewind a bit to 2011. Darien Lake's Ride of Steel ejected a rider that had a prosthetic leg. Obviously, there was neglect from the ride operators' point of view, but Intamin also released a statement regarding the incident. Sandor Kernacs, then Intamin's US president, said that "accidents can't be avoided" and even went further to ask "the question is, what number is acceptable?" That's a big red flag for any park. It suggests that Intamin goes about its innovations and pushing of the envelope without thinking about safety. Add to that all the incidents such as broken cables, redesigns, and more accidents thereafter, and US parks simply lost Intamin's trust. Intamin hasn't once redacted their statement and instead of trying to get back into the US market, they stick with their line of thought and are focused on overseas projects. Would I like to see Intamin make a comeback? Sure. They have some cool things in their ride designs. I certainly like a lot of the coasters from them that I've ridden. But, only with a new focus on safety in addition to whatever innovations they come up with. If CF goes with another Intamin, it hopefully means Intamin has turned that corner and I would be excited for what they bring to the table. Competition is a good thing in the industry. If not, well, they only have themselves to blame. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagoda Gift Shop Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Some other info from the Q&A: Kings Island (maybe Cedar Fair as a whole?) is exploring the idea of all-day locker access anywhere in the park, as well as season pass based locker availability. Attendance at Kings Island in 2017 was the highest since 1998. Mystic Timbers' shed will not receive any changes in the next year or two, but updates in the long term future are possible. Flight of Fear and Shake, Rattle, and Roll will operate during Winterfest. Painting coasters is expensive and can easily hit six figures in cost. The Tomb Raider/Crypt building is still being considered for how it can be used for something during the regular season. There are no plans in the next 4-5 years to create a new section of the park. There is plenty of land though, which may be used for new rides. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I concur with the no plans for a new section of park. There are lots of areas where they can infill new rides and attractions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce1994 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Who else liked FOF tour? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 The Flight of Fear tour was amazing. Getting to see the full spaghetti bowl was great. Hopefully they do it again next year. In regards to utilizing land, there are plenty of areas where flats would fit nicely. When we did the Banshee tour yesterday I thought that would be a great area to add some additional flats and have another pathway to the front of Adventure Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tera Ryzing Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 If they had a new area planned, would they tell a bunch of enthusiasts before they did an announcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagoda Gift Shop Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Probably not, but the park is not under any obligation to do any sort of Q&A at all. I think most answers for future projects can be interpreted as the "current plan", but plans can always change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 3:23 AM, Pagoda Gift Shop said: Some other info from the Q&A: Kings Island (maybe Cedar Fair as a whole?) is exploring the idea of all-day locker access anywhere in the park, as well as season pass based locker availability. Attendance at Kings Island in 2017 was the highest since 1998. Mystic Timbers' shed will not receive any changes in the next year or two, but updates in the long term future are possible. Flight of Fear and Shake, Rattle, and Roll will operate during Winterfest. Painting coasters is expensive and can easily hit six figures in cost. The Tomb Raider/Crypt building is still being considered for how it can be used for something during the regular season. There are no plans in the next 4-5 years to create a new section of the park. There is plenty of land though, which may be used for new rides. They’re not going to make any really noteworthy changes to the shed, especially after the next year or two. Why would they put money into something that has lost its marketability by then? Don’t get your hopes up. Christmas decorations or throwing Halloween garbage in it during Haunt are a possibility, but the core program will never change... until things stop working and aren’t repaired (which is a change, right?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Would kic'ers be upset if we got an intamin giga over b&m? Knowing Kings Island history for getting prototypes and first of their kind rides, I would love to see the first RMC TREX Giga installed at KI.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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