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Did we just have a 'YOLO' dropped here on the forum...? Ugh...

I'll take my chances.

Which is one of the many reasons the loss of Paddlewheel Excursions is so truly sad.

Nothing against selective, I have no idea who he is and if his offer is legit, but a gold pass can be purchased on line for $100.50 right now (including tax, i don't know?) that's a $20 savings. While that may be a significant price to some, its most definently not worth buying a pass for $80 from someone you don't know unless there is a way to absolutely verify and confirm that it will work for you. Its what some people like to call, penny wise, pound foolish. One should never assume all the risk on an $80 investment for a $20 savings.

Not everybody rode The Racer on its opening day, Terpy! (I'm so jealous of you for that.)

I'm disappointed in the end of FunPerks. I've said numerous times on here that my in-park spending increased last year due to two reasons: Hank's Burrito Shack & FunPerks. In my experience, most of the time the cashiers asked if I had a gold pass, or if they didn't I had it right there to hand it to them. I only had one problem all year when the cashier at IS Skyline swiped my pass after the transaction was complete, but it was quickly resolved by the associate at the FunPerks booth. I liked the instant rewards that I got for free cotton candy (of course, I think GatorGirl liked it even better), and the burger meal deals in Soak City, which we used on several occasions (note, I said used, not re-used... they were separate offers). I know that there was abuse of the system by others, and I hope that that didn't contribute to FP's demise. Because of FP, we did things we normally wouldn't do... we had a free game, so we used it to play the squirt gun game in Coney... and of course I had to pay to play against GatorGirl so they could get a race going. We had a free rider on Skyflyer, and we paid for the 2nd person to ride. I especially loved the FP discount on our season passes that we earned & used on closing day. 10% off food is a good start... I got 20% off at Dollywood with my DW gold pass last year. Whether 10% will be enough to keep me buying food in the park or go back to doing our parking lot picnics is yet to be determined. I'll have to see what the prices with the discount are compared to what we would spend down the street and bringing it back to eat in the nice grassy strip in the middle of the parking lot.

sorry for the quote, then failure to put my thoughts after that quote, can't get it to work right, anyhoo: I can't speak for everyone else, but I assume their dissapointment is similar to mine. Its a dissapointment not so much for what fun perks was last season, but for what fun perks had the potential to be going forward. I think most of us understood and accepted that KI was the test market and were willing to put up w/ the kinks in the system for something that only added benefit to us if we used it and cost us no more money than we had originally agreed upon w/ the purchase of our season pass. with that said, he was my vision of what funperks could have been. We'd typically come to the park on a tuesday or wednesday evening. We'd get there around 5:30, head over to Planet Snoopy, my son always wanted to ride boo blasters first. So while one parent took him on boo blasters, the other wheeled our then infant daughter over to the snack line, bought a soda to split, a water for the boy and a couple of pretzles for all 3 us to split. Fun Perks had the potential to track that we bought a couple of pretzels on about 75% or more of our visits. Rather than offering us a cotton candy perk (which was both one of the perks and one of the instant rewards last season), they could have offered a soft preztel perk knowing that we'd get definent benefit out of it and consider out gold passes to be that much more valuable. Now that is our family, another family may have stopped by and got ice cream on 75% of their visits and perhaps one of their rewards would have been tweaked to fit their spending habits. And that is just a small sample of what they could have offered, not only to enhance our experience, but to also encourage us to spend more money in one of their perks. As time marched forward, I could have envisioned a "few tickets w/ a night's stay at breaker's hotel" being one of the potential rewards for a gold pass holder that visited KI as their main park. They also could have further enhanced it, and allowed people to scan their pass each time they got on a ride, perhaps they'd get instant rewards for a front of the line pass. They could have used by combining it with text updates, and perhaps sending text messages to people they know are in the park that they can have an instant "front of the line pass" on a ride in a part of the park were traffic is light, or perhaps a discounted slice of pizza at the festhause if they notice the lines there a bit shorter than they'd like, etc... There was a ton of potential for the system, that would benefit both the park and the end user.

I can't even touch that first thing you said. About the same? How old were you when you visited? How much time did you spend? Disneyland Park and Magic Kingdom are lightyears apart (and that's without calling one better or worse). And beyond those two parks, the rest of the resorts are incomparable with each other, so there's hardly any sense to calling them "about the same." To name one thing: VERSUS Besides the fact that both are called "Tomorrowland," they have little in common. Different stories, different styles, different attractions, different layouts, different moods, different music, different atmospheres... And, "wild net rumors?" Ask the Imagineers laid off when Beastly Kingdom was set aside as "phase 2" for Animal Kingdom. They happily took their services next door to Universal's Islands of Adventure. Look up the blueprints for Epcot - Project Gemini. Look at the official press releases about new countries coming to World Showcase. Look at the state of Disney's Hollywood Studios - whether or not you can find registered blueprints, you'd be kidding yourself to make the case that nothing's been considered for that park. Some may be rumors, but they're hardly wild or inconceivable!

Universal suffers the same problems that Disney does when it comes to deteriorating attractions. Prior to Harry Potter's debut, many of the "islands" at IOA had faded paint schemes, malfunctioning and/or non-working effects, etc. Also, the last rides that were added to the park prior to Harry Potter were Flying Unicorn (now Hippogriff) and Storm Force Accelatron in 2000. As for the debate on budget cuts between D-Land and D-World, remember that D-World only put budget cuts on single attractions or themed lands...they never had budget cuts on an entire PARK. California Adventure is the grandaddy of all Disney budget cuts - the massive refurbishment (Cars Land, Buena Vista Street, Paradise Pier remodel, etc.) was something that should have been done from the get-go - but during the 90s, three entire theme parks were sketched up and almost made a reality. The first was to be an almost entire cloned version of EPCOT for the West Coast: WestCOT would have been the first Disney park to feature a hotel within the theme park itself. The second was PortDisney, a multifaceted project containing a theme park, DisneySeas, a hotel, and a marina, and would have been built in Long Beach, California. Both projects were shelved after financial problems arose with Disneyland Paris; the former, WestCOT, was reported to be close to $3 billion to create (by comparison, California Adventure was built for only $650 million). However, the concept of DisneySeas was later given to the Oriental Land Company who owns Tokyo Disneyland and reworked as Tokyo DisneySea, arguably the most heavily-themed park ever created, and the hotel-within-a-park concept from WestCOT was later implemented as the Hotel MiraCosta at TDS (Disneyland Hotel in Paris would be the first to feature the concept, however). The third park was Disney's America, set to be in Haymarket, Virginia: Themed as a mixture of American history and culture, the park was drawn up in 1993, but Haymarket's citizens weren't swayed by the prospect of the Disney Corporation building a park in their town, so the project was scrapped around the same time as WestCOT and Port Disney. Several rides and areas of the park were later added to California Adventure, such as the California Screamin' coaster, Grizzly River Run, Condor Flats, and Bountiful Family Farm. Fun fact: DA was at one point reworked to be a conversion of Knott's Berry Farm when it went up for bid. The Knott family, however, didn't like the idea of the Disney Corporation coming in and changing almost everything up, so they politely declined and instead went with Cedar Fair...who went ahead and changed almost everything up.

Hah. Compare it to 1972. Some of us don't need a map to do that.

I admit to doing that once, years ago. There was a gentleman that wanted to get rid of two extra tickets and asked if we wanted them for 20.00 each. We agreed, as he offered to let us get through the turnstiles and pay him inside. Nice fellow!

Has it really been 15 years since Pirates demise? I remember a time where that serpent thing popped out of the treasure chest on that ride scared me

Understood, but it's STILL a Disney park. Your local McDonald's is a franchise, but it's a McDonald's, not a piano bar.

Picture 398 by ki_faerie_wench, on Flickr Yes, the baby in the pic is me. Most senior citizens I know are not interested in riding coasters (one sweet lady who is a regular at KI comes to mind as a rare exception), that's why my grandparents fell in love with CP when they did. We all go in as a family beginning of the day to ride either train or Paddlewheel Excursions or both before everyone went their separate ways for the afternoon. I know grandpa loved to get his usual beer and a sandwich while watching shows at Red Garter.

And also no overuse of punctuation. See the Terms of Service. Besides, I thought only dueling or racing coasters could be racist. Terp, exiting quickly, stage right.

And Son of Beast. There's that, too.

Thanks for the input. I hope I can talk them into using scooters. I finally convinced my mother to look into wheelchair rental for the ballpark. I wish the train had the old scenery and show, my dad loved that. The focus on the thrill ride in the past has kind of left older people in the dust.

That next office potluck is going to be so awkward... ;-)

^ To get the previous price for the passes. They cost more now.

And then the Knott family, along with Q, put the kibosh on Dick Kinzel's attempted sellout of the unitholders to Apollo Global. Karma. It's a beautiful thing.

Your trip to Carowinds leads you to think of things like that, doesn't it. What I'm confused by is this - Why would someone buy passes for the same price the park sells them from someone that they have never met? I can understand it when there's money to be saved, but why set up a meeting place and buy passes with the hope they'll work when you can just buy them from the park?

But what are we going to do now that Ronny's picture isn't there? Plus...I miss the water tower. Not to mention, when did Racer get pointy? (Can you tell how much I love change?) Even if they did jiggle around FD, it looks better that way than with a gaping hole in it where SOB should be. Here's something fun - compare this years map with an 03 park map and scare the hell out of yourself with how many things have changed in ten years. Then think about what it might look like in another ten.

The Architect is always thinking!

Leave Vortex alone and appreciate the lack of downtime. We've got a coaster we can ride in that spot.

Since you guys seemed rather interested in the Bier Garten... It looks awesome! Also, Action Zone got new, non-faded banners!

^^You better keep an eye on your son, he's been wrecking havoc on this site since he joined.

Racer, without a doubt... Time to put some Red, White and Blue on it like the old days!!! (and bring back the backwards car while you're at it)

I thought they were both hot. Then again, I was an odd kid.

The 2013 map is nothing to be that excited about- they were giving them out at season pass processing over the weekend. Doesn't matter, I still am really excited to see it. Spoiler alert.

Me and my family went to Walt Disney World over spring break, as most of you already know. I apologize for some of the pictures, I really just pulled out my iPod from time-to-time and snapped a quick pic. But I have a few good ones. Let me know which one you like best. We usually fly, but my moms boyfriend gets free gas and has a company car, so, why not? I actually managed to keep track of most of the stuff we did in my notes, so here we go... On march 28th, I believe, the first day on break we left for Cincinnati in the afternoon around 6-ish. We were heading to Cincy because our new house that we are moving into is down there that we can stay in, plus there was a few things we had to do in the morning. It was a short drive (four hours) as much as we make that trip it didn't bother me at all. Plus the company car was more of a van. We folded down the front-back seats (if that makes sense..) and me and my brother sat in the back-back seats. Therefore this gave us lots of room to stretch our legs and have all our stuff to keep us busy during the drive. And it had a in-built dvd player so that was cool. We arrived at the house, and went to bed. The next day we got a late start because there was some things we had to do so we didn't get out onto the road until around 12:40. At 1:30 we hit Kentucky. The drove all the way down to mid-Georgia and arrived at the hotel around 10:25. The next day we ate breakfast, and then we went to go see this place called Stone Mountain. Apparently its the largest exposed granite rock in the world, if I remembered that correctly. We got there around 11:30, we walked around and we saw the rock. P3303562 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr P3303586 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr In front of the rock P3303599 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr P3303598 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr We walked around some more and found a glass shop. If I could have a dream job I would love to do that, make the class objects. We watched a tutorial on it at 12:30. P3303609 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr After that we got into the van at 1:00 and headed the rest of the way to Florida. We crossed the border around 5:20. Later on we got to Disney P3303631 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr We drove around, we passed Downtown Disney, it looked like Las Vegas in a way haha. We found our hotel, we were staying at the Port Orleans French Quarter Hotel. I thought it was pretty neat, I liked it. I found this on one of the beds, haha. P3303644 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr After we got our stuff in we walked around the hotel. We went to go see the pool, I knew what it looked like, but I was excited to see it. It was cute. This is half of it. P3303653 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr After that we got onto a boat, form of Disney transportation, lol. It was really neat at night, it took you to Downtown Disney. P3303662 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr P3303669 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr P3303671 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr ^We ate there on our last day. We walked around for awhile, it was just mostly shops and restaurants. We went back to the boat, but we missed it. So we went to go catch a bus. It was really easy to find, nice organization Disney. We went back to the hotel and headed to bed The Next day was March 31st, Easter. Apparently, the hotel had organized some type of Easter candy hunt. I went outside and found a huge arrangement of candy. We went down, it was really neat. It was the in the shape of a mask, because the hotel was themed as mardi graw (or however you spell it....). IMG_5283 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr ^That's the mask, they had it divided into sections of age, again, nice organization Disney. I saw that I had some very stiff competition. Haha IMG_5288 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Some of the people there, I thought it was really nice of Disney to do this, they had the Easter bunny there too, and mickey an Minnie. IMG_5284 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr I finally had some time to take some pictures I wanted. IMG_5285 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5296 by I finally had some time to take some pictures I wanted. IMG_5285 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5296 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr At 9 they started going through the age levels. There was way more then enough candy to go around. After that, my mom had bought her own Easter stuff for us so she went out and hid some of the eggs with the gold coins in them. Family tradition. IMG_5310 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5311 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr After that we got on a bus to magic Kingdom because they had a church service at a hotel. There was a lot of people in thee, im going to say at least a thousand. Around 11:40 that ended and we went back to the hotel to change. Then we got on a bus to animal kingdom. We got there at 2:00, my mom wanted to see the Lion King show, so wwe headed straight there, that started at 2:30. The show was cute. It was kinda weird though because as I watched it, it all was coming back to me. I started to renember it. After the show my mom said it was exactly the same way it was 7 years ago. haha Sorry these are especially bad quality IMG_5340 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5365 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5351 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5358 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr After that we went to go get a good spot for the parade. That started at 3. Once again as I watched this I started to remember it. Its a weird feeling. IMG_5372 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5375 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr When that was over we went on to a safari type ride. I also remembered that too. We took a train, and then headed into Asia, where we found Expedition Everest. IMG_5417 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5417 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr My mom hates roller coasters, so she was more than happy to stay behind. They put a lot of theme into the rides. The ride was really neat, it was really just kind of like an upgraded Adventure Express to me. At one point they make it look like the tracks are broke and you head backwards into the dark. When that was over, my mom texted us saying she was at a Nemo play. We dashed over there to see it. I'm not one much for shows/plays, but this was quite neat. They used puppets, and they were on harnesses and they did flips, and all kinds of stuff. They had jellyfish kites, bubbles, animatronics, it was quite neat. I was able to follow along with the movie really well. We found my mom as we headed out of the play. Right then my voice really started to get bad. I didn't sound so well all day but then it was really bad, I sounded like an old dying woman haha. The weird thing was it didn't hurt to talk at all, it was just hard to (you could barley hear me), and my face was really congested. We sat down and tried to find a show on the internet. My mom couldn't remember the name of it, I mean I wouldn't of either after 7 years haha. Me and her bf tried to find it, and we did. It was called fantasmic, which rang a bell, it was at Hollywood studios so we headed out of Animal Kingdom and caught a bus We got there around 7:30, there was a little bit of a sunset. IMG_5433 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5441 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5435 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5446 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr At that moment it hit us that we had not eaten at all yet today. xD Im not sure how, I guess we were just to busy to notice. So we grabbed some stuff to eat. I just had a turkey sandwich, at this point you could not even really hear me speak and I just didn't feel like eating. While they ate they made several announcements that if you were going to see fantasmic, they suggested that you go to find seats 45 minutes before the show. I didn't know what to expect. We went in like 15 minutes before the show, and it was packed...xD IMG_5455 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr And that was just half of the stadium xD. So we found some seats, you couldn't see anything. Haha, my mom and brother attempted to watch it while me and her bf browsed the internet. After the show we were extremely tired, but it looked pretty cool from what we could see, and we didn't think we would have the time to come back so we stuck it out, exited, and got in line for the last show. They made you exit so they could clean the stadium, health requirements. We got much better seats. Dead center, a and about 6 rows up (on purpose). IMG_5458 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5458 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr They had water spray and then had a projector put scenes from movies on it. IMG_5467 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5469 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr It was a really neat. Afterwards we were really tired now, so we caught a bus to the hotel. I was happy to because my moms bf has allergies and he had some stuff that we were going to try to see if it helped me. I don't have allergies, but maybe there was like a specific plant I was allergic to. Or maybe I was just allergic to Florida, that's probably it haha. xD The next day we got a really late start we went and swam at the pool, my brother met a kid his age. He was from Ireland, I think.... Heres part of the pool again P4013706 by KIC-Original, on Flickr His name was Finland. We also headed out of WDW to get some things we needed. At 1:50 we arrived at Magic Kingdom. I was really happy to finally see the castle again. (Pic from the train station) P4013742 (2) by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr We got on the train at 2. P4013745 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr My brother really likes Jack Sparrow, so we went to go see a 'How to become a pirate with Jack Sparrow' show. It was cute, they taught them how to sword fight and gave them certificates with Jack Sparrow's signature at the bottom. P4013748 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr The guy really looked like Jonny Depp, talked like him too. We went to go see the parade afterwards. IMG_5553 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_5554 by KIC-Original, on Flickr ^^This is the one of the things I didn't get to go that I wanted. If you see any toy story characters walking around the park, if you shout 'ANDYS COMING!!' They will fall to the ground like they do in the movie. Me and my brother were going to do it with them but we never got to. But we did get to see them in the parade. IMG_5556 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_5558 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_5560 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_5565 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_5573 by KIC-Original, on Flickr ^^I love the one step sisters face in that one, haha. IMG_5577 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_5578 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We took a Pirate boat ride after that. IMG_5583 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr It was all animatronics. It broke down at the very end before we reached the station. Jack Sparrow was singing 'A pirates life for me', we were only stuck for about 5 minutes but that song made it feel like an hour lol. We saw the show Enchanted Tiki room. It was animatronic birds singing, cool. We headed into Liberty Square, we went to go see The Hall of Presidents show. IMG_5603 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr It was a video, and then they had animatronics. I swear Abe was a real actor though. lol We took the Liberty Bell Boat ride. IMG_5603 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Good view of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. IMG_5629 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5635 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr We went into Pinocchio's Village house to eat. We got a good seat next to this long window overlooking 'its a small world' ride around 6:30. IMG_5642 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr The food was really good, you get what you pay for. IMG_5651 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr At 7 we rode the ride, it was, um okay. It was my brothers favorite ride as a baby. IMG_5661 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr At 8 we rode The Haunted Mansion ride, one of my brothers favorite movies. IMG_5685 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Main Character's grave. IMG_5694 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr The ride was okay, it was kinda like boo blasters without the blasters, and it had illusions in it. At 9 we went to go get seats for the Electric Parade. They had a couple marching bands from high schools start it out. IMG_5724 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5733 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5740 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5770 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5774 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr We went to go see wishes after that. Like a firework/projection show on the castle. IMG_5789 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Sorry these aren't very good, the images wouldn't stop moving. IMG_5797 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5804 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr These are better, since the colors on the castle were more solid. IMG_5856 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_5889 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Very cool show. Afterwards we went to Jungle Cruise. We were going to go on it earlier but it was a 45 min. wait. We came back and it was a walk on. A pic from earlier in the day. P4013758 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr It was a boat ride, again. You could tell our 'guide' liked her job, but had a lot of time on her hands. She had the corniest jokes for everything. lol Then we went and rode the magic carpet ride, twice. Another one of my brothers favorite movies. IMG_5903 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Big Thunder Alley ( I can't believe I just typed that haha) MOUNTAIN. Big Thunder Mountain. IMG_5911 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr It was fun, again really just like another upgraded Adventure Express. We got on a bus and headed for the hotel. We swam in the morning again. P4033802 by KIC-Original, on Flickr In case you needed to know what I look like underwater... At 1:40 we got at magic kingdom and went to go see mickey. We were in the gift shop for awhile. IMG_5939 by KIC-Original, on Flickr My brother was collecting pins, he had like 12 by the time we left Disney. heres a couple. IMG_6002 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6003 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We went around to some shops, and at 2:40 we were walking under the castle. We walked over to fantasy land where they had 2 new castles. We tried to get reservations to eat at The Beasts castle but they didn't have any but they said you cant make reservations for lunch, so there was a chance we could squeeze in. We walked over, but they were all ready full. So we back to the Pinocchio Village because we really like that place. It was crowded in there but I was able to swipe a seat. Afterwards we went into some more stores then got onto a Ferry Boat to get onto the monorial to epcot. Its more fun than the bus. When we got to the monorail it was closed so we had to take the bus, oh well. We got there at 5:15, I had fun with proportions. IMG_6054 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We rode spaceship earth, and started walking toward this fountain with some really cute ducks. IMG_6072 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Then we went to Test Track. This was my favorite ride. IMG_6079 by KIC-Original, on Flickr They gave you a card and then you got in pairs and designed a car (you got to draw the body, design the engine, the color, all kinds of stuff) . Then you scanned your card before you got into the car and you went through testing to see how well you car did. That was really cool. IMG_6090 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Scanner IMG_6092 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6095 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6097 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Then we went to Mexico one of the many countries they have. Then my brother found some mission thing. They gave you a cell phone and yu went around a country to solve it. We did that for 30 minuites. Then we saw illuminations reflections of earth. A firework show. Then we got on a bus back to the hotel. The next day we went outside of Disney and spent most of the day at Daytona Beach. P4033886 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We went u on the board walk IMG_6251 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We ate French Fries and watch the people surf and tidal ride IMG_6294 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6287 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We took each others photos and I edited them. IMG_6321 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6299 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6299 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Ferris Wheel and Sling Shot^. It was a neat day. The next day we went back to Epcot to see more of the countries and such. We went to a nemo center where they had a ride, and then a lot of aquariums and turtle talk. IMG_6339 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6354 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6375 by KIC-Original, on Flick Turtle talk was really neat crush talked to you and stuff, really neat. We walked out of there and we were going to go do soarin'. IMG_6394 by KIC-Original, on Flickr A couple people ntold us about it, its really neat you feel like your in a hang glider and they have wind, and you can go all over the world. With a 2 hour wait though we didn't do it. We had lunch at seasons, and than rode living with the land boat ride. I remembered that. Than we saw a sign for captin EO. We went in and watched that. IMG_6398 by KIC-Original, on Flickr As we walked out we saw our ducklings from the other day. IMG_6403 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Than we went to all the different countries. Canada, France, Italy, China, Japan, Mexico, India, Norway, and Germany - I think those are all of them.. Oh yes, and the U.K. IMG_6416 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Phone booths from the U.K IMG_6420 by KIC-Original, on Flickr My friend would of been so happy. They had a whole store of Beatles stuff. IMG_6429 by KIC-Original, on Flickr My favorite Disney movie, also the last one Walt Disney helped make.^ We were going into france IMG_6430 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6431 by KIC-Original, on Flickr France^^ What amazed me is that as you went into the different countries, the employees were ALL from which country you were in if you looked at their nametags. It was so realistic, they had stores, and food just like they have there too. Movie IMG_6435 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6440 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6440 by KIC-Original, on Flickr India^ IMG_6463 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Japan^ IMG_6472 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Japan^ IMG_6482 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6483 by KIC-Original, on Flickr IMG_6492 by KIC-Original, on Flickr ^Germany, reminds me of our Oktoberfest Then lastly we went to Norway and rode a boat ride called Maelstrom, it was actually really neat. It was about the Vikings. We then exited epcot onto the monorail to magic kingdom where we wanted to see the castle show again. IMG_6520 by KIC-Original, on Flickr Here's a pic of the monorail from earlier that day IMG_6138 by KIC-Original, on Flickr We deffiantly didn't have as good of seats like the last time we saw it, but the show was just as good as the last. Then we went into fantasy land and rode the teacups, Dumbo, and goofys barn stormer. Then we went into tomorrow land and rode the people mover, starship command, and went to the show The Laugh Floor. The laugh Floor was my favorite show. It was kinda the same concept as Turtle Talk only with monsters inc and it was a comedy show. I really liked it they pick different people to put on camera and such. I didn't think I would like it but it was actuslly my favorite. We then went to some stores, and caught our last bus back to the hotel. The last day we took that boat we did the first day to downtown Disney. We went to once upon a toy, a pin store, and a bunch of other places. We also went to the world of Disney the biggest Disney store in the world (or u.s.a..?). It was huge. lol Then we went to Fulton's Crab House. IMG_6628 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr Best drink I've ever had. Called sunset punch. amazing. IMG_6638 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_6639 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr food IMG_6644 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_6643 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr IMG_6655 by vacationphotos2013, on Flickr We then took the boat back to the hotel, and piled in. I'm really happy I got to do this. It wasn't the most thrill-seeker rides, but it was still fun. Its a bit childish, but I mean that's who I am. haha. The drive didn't bother me at all really, I liked it. We had plenty to do, and lots of room too. I still think the 1 hour drive to Cedar Point is longer xD haha. If you've reached this far congrats, I apologize for its length, its really long, sorry. Oh, and lso as we drove back I got to get a glimpse of carowinds from across the highway. Some trains were running. Thanks for reading.

I'll buy one for $40(I may buy 2 for $80) I'll need Picture of the PRE-season pass form, proving no name is attached to it. Picture of the receipt You can either show me on Skype or Post picture in a private message. Only reason I'm offering 40 is because it is a tad bit sketchy, once you provide that information I can call KI and have them check if the form bar code have been used. Also I live in Indiana, you would have to mail me the forms, and I would have to wire you the $40. Edit: Just got off the phone with a dear friend of mine. She said for you to even purchase the season passes, you would of needed to give your name & phone number & current address to even PAY for them @ the park(maybe its something they're doing in 2013?), Did you do that? What exactly did you do on September 01, 2012.

Trust me,if you spent alot (we did) ,it was well worth having funperks.We used different cards in the family for purchases and got several great deals,half off and free fastlane was the best.The system did have several flaws though.I kept purchasing on my card that had reached level 4 because I didnt know I maxed out my rewards! I could have used a kids card to get more perks! Nobody told me I maxed out my rewards? I also had a upgraded parking reward that didnt work when I tried to use it, the lady asked me if I had already used it! I just looked at her and said"forget it!". She stopped me and apologized stating that people would try re-using the perks all the time. The system was a mess,but done properly could have been great!

OUCH! I also can think of another park that has lots and lots of coasters that seems to have to let other things slip to keep them all open and running. I believe Kat and I referred to it as being like a ghetto Cedar Point. I wouldn't want that to happen to KI. I love how pretty much everything has a nice, well kept appearance.

Opening day is slower when? I somehow do not remember any opening day I've been to as a slow day. Mostly that's because it's a Saturday. Combine that with the opening day kinks that happen frequently - mainly downtime, and it might be a great opening day or a horrible opening day. You just never know, but go with the flow. As for the rain - if it's raining enough in the afternoon to send lots of people home, it's usually because the rides have been down for a long period of time. If the rides aren't down, most people will continue to stay. I'd want the rain in the morning and before noon to keep people from showing up if anything. That said, I'd rather the park be slightly busier and have just an overcast day with maybe a sprinkle or two. Those are always my favorite days.

And out $240. And saved how much versus just buying from the park?

When it's weekends only, Sunday is best. Otherwise, any weekday that is not a "Music in the Park" or "Math and Science Day" or some other kind of educational event should be a go. If possible, shoot for a Tuesday.

That would get you to Action Zone in a way that would be useful, as theoretically they could put more stuff along it. That would be most similar to the areas of Dollywood known as Timber Canyon and Wilderness Pass. Before Thunderhead, none of that existed at all. As things kept getting built up, they connected the two and made it a loop...a BIG loop. I'd agree with you though that it will be YEARS from now, if ever that this happens. Over expansion would not be a good thing.

Well, that's one of us. I'd rather spend two days at Disneyland\California Adventure than a week at the Walt Disney World Resort. Not to mention that the park with the most coasters is just a hop, skip and a jump away.

I TOTALLY agree, Terp. I was going to say, Mr Falfas may very well WANT to go back to His position, now that the dirtbag is gone. That leads back to chugh43's question of, how would CF do that? What would happen to Mr. Zimmerman?

Honestly, Disney World isn't all that great - in my opinion. New Fantasyland, as GYK noted, has only one E-ticket ride, a restaurant, then some meet and greets. I compare Universal to Disney now; look at Universal. Transformers, Harry Potter Phase II, Springfield Expansion, new hotel, etc., etc., while Magic Kingdom has added one ride and a meet and greet, EPCOT has gotten nothing new in years, Hollywood Studios' most recent new ride is Toy Story Mania which came out several years ago, and Animal Kingdom is pretty much at a sit still right now too. Then, while Disney builds new rides, the others deteriorate. Splash Mountain has had broken AA's for a while. EPCOT is getting outdated every second. Hollywood Studios is getting outdated, too. And Animal Kingdom's yeti on Expedition Everest never worked the way it was supposed to. Sorry for the negativity against Disney World; I still love visiting, but I like Universal Studios a lot better. Carry on with the Mystic Manor conversation ...

Is it strange that I'm mega excited about the new banners? I'm weird...

As opposed to the right amount of excessive detail? Terp, who likes to ask questions.

Last season, while at the top of the Eiffel Tower, a guy points to the Son of Beast and asks an employee what ride that was. The employee tells him that it was The Beast and that it was soon to be torn down. The guy asks why, and the employee tells him that it was just old (over 20 years). I do realize that he could have been screwing with the guy. I didn't correct him...just giggled and walked away. Lol

Now? It depends on the situation. Possibly Diamondback or a night ride on The Beast when there's a "new moon". Other than that, probably nothing. However, I have "been there, done that" on two different occasions. First time: The year Flight of Fear opened. The line extended all the way into Coney Mall but my dad and I didn't believe the signs. Then we got inside the building and realized they weren't joking... Second time: The day Firehawk opened. Worth the wait for a "first rider" shirt and riding my first "flying" coaster the day it opened at KI. It's highly unlikely I would ever wait that long for Firehawk again.

Looks more like they borrowed the template from Cedar Point's Fast Lane page....or is this the beginning of a ride swap program? If they can move X-Flight from Geauga Lake to KI, then... Just kidding, please no one take the above statement seriously! Sweet, Millennium Force is coming to KI!!!!!

Stunt Crew hasn't been open at the end of the season for the past 4 years. Instead, a family of butchers commandeer that location and serve meats of more dubious origin! I've heard they may be hiring this September, it seems like a job to die for.

Looks more like they borrowed the template from Cedar Point's Fast Lane page....or is this the beginning of a ride swap program? If they can move X-Flight from Geauga Lake to KI, then... Just kidding, please no one take the above statement seriously!

Stunt Crew hasn't been open at the end of the season for the past 4 years. Instead, a family of butchers commandeer that location and serve meats of more dubious origin!

Magic always comes with a price. Better make sure it's magic!

Not even FOF? Nope. I waited 5 hours for it though once back in the day. My all time fav. ride right now Viper at Six Flags Great America I might wait two hours for.