Rivertown Rider

^ Who knows if that even means anything but that would be a great spot for a flat. That spot is tailor made for a Musik Express.

I've always wondered how much of the comparitive popularity of WWC and RFYLCB is due to the proximity to Soak City. I agree that Congo Falls would be much more popular if it were in Rivertown. Ideally KI would call up Whitewater West and put in something like Dollywood's Daredevil Falls which is a better themed KCKC.

An Action Zone revamp is at the top of my list. Putting some more family flats in that area along with another flagship coaster in that area. I can't see Invertigo and Congo surviving another 10 years. I would also give Planet Snoopy the Camp Snoopy overlay and move the Flyers over by Backlot where the original Flyers were.

I agree that they need to take a page out of Canada's Wonderland Frontier Canada section and take a few years and gradually build up that area. When I look at the whole area the only rides in the current Action Zone that I feel are not in danger of getting removed are Banshee, Delirium, and probably Drop Tower. I hope they are able to keep The Bat but from a chain standpoint if it comes to saving Vortex at Wonderland or saving The Bat (they are clones), they are going to save Vortex at CW because it is probably the fourth most popular ride there. I do think The Bat's ridership would improve if they found a way to shorten the queue. Long range if they got rid of Timberwolf they could do a more direct route to the ride. The park of course did something similar when they rerouted White Water Canyon's queue line to prepare for Mystic. Like others have said I would say Invertigo and Congo are probably both in danger. The interesting thing would be if the park kept Congo but just removed Invertigo. If they put some family flats in there like a Tilt-a-Whirl and Musik Express it might actually help Congo's ridership. I still think Congo goes at some point though. I do like either going with a Black Forest theme or just combining it with Oktoberfest. As far as the next coaster, I actually like something like Copperhead Strike in that area. Since it only has a 48" height requirement it would be something that more people could do. If they did reroute The Bat entrance with a Timberwolf removal, they could build the entrance to the new coaster on part of the Timberwolf plot and then go down in part of the old Bat path over to some of the empty SOB area.

I agree that it is probably Racer retracking. It would make sense to finish the retracking and then go back to Racer's original paint scheme for the 50th.

I was impressed by how quickly the Dark Knight coaster at Six Flags Great Adventure and Six Flags Great America seemed to roll thru the line. I would be happy with something like that in the TRTR spot.

I would say Dollywood/Pigeon Forge and Silver Dollar City/Branson.

At first glance I thought the PR team was in SWAT gear.

^ Yeah I know it was a prototype. I think the problems that Dollywood has had with Lightning Rod and some other parks have had with other RMCs may make chains think that they aren't worth the headaches even as great as their coasters are.

Hopefully they can get it working consistently. At this point, I do think they need to look at a standard chain lift. For a coaster to be having this many problems 5 seasons in is crazy. For coasters like TTD it is a little more understandable because of the force of the launch and height. With Lightning Rod, I have noticed from being at the park the last couple of years that they seem to be promoting it less and less and not even having as much merchandise. For a ride that is supposed to be a headliner that is a little strange. I think that tells you that Dollywood has lost faith in it. When they add their next coaster it needs to be something extremely reliable.

2021: Action Zone retheme (A Dark Forest theme), Timberwolf removed, New Der Spinning Keggers and Musik Express on the former Timberwolf, relocated path to The Bat. 2022: 50th Anniversary Celebration, Planet Snoopy gets Camp Snoopy overall with a couple family rides and the return of a new Phantom Theater in place of Boo Blasters. 2023: Water park improvements. 2024: A Gerstlauer Infinity or B&M dive goes on the old Vortex plot. 2025: A Screamin' Swing is placed in Rivertown.

^ I rode Tempesto at BGW and it is a really good filler coaster. I do agree that it would be a great addition for Dorney or WOF.

During their last quarterly conference call, CF said that they would announce their capital plans for 21 later in the year. It still would not surprise me to see some family flats come to KI. If you look at the success of the return of the Antiques and the Eagles it makes sense to think about adding more flats especially since family flats like the Keggers could run during Winterfest.

With the success of Winterfest, fleshing out the park with more flats that can run during Winterfest would be a smart idea. Adding a new Der Spinning Keggers (Teacups) and a Musik Express to Action Zone or Oktoberfest would really add a lot to those respective areas. After they do that adding some additional family flats to a revamped Camp Snoopy overlay of Planet Snoopy would be great as well.

I didn't go on it much but it was a good site to look at to prepare for my first Carowinds trip back in 2018. It is sad to see a park specific site close. While things like Facebook and Twitter are good for immediate information, they are not as good at archiving information that you can go back and look at historical posts (like threads and comments).

Something like Goliath at Six Flags Great America would be great in that spot.

The large amount of barrels is interesting. Could we be seeing a hint of the return of Spinning Barrels?

The hard part is so many of the ones that would be good fits are already spoken for by other chains. Going to Palace Entertainment and trying to purchase Kennywood and Lake Compounce would make a ton of sense. CF would do a good job taking care of the woodies and would help operationally as well (especially in Kennywood's case, I've not been to Lake Compounce so I can't speak for them). Wild Adventures is owned by Herschend but it would a good location. The trouble is CF wouldn't want to deal with the animals but it would be an area that they could keep open nearly year round.

I would like to see the Red, White, and Blue repaint of Racer. I would also like to see Woodstock Express renamed back to The Beastie.

I think that if many of the parks are not able to open next year that some parks won't survive. I think the bigger chains will have to make some hard decisions if that is the case.

Like others have said it is definitely a giga coaster. Yes I would have preferred it to have another element or two and have been a little taller but it is still a great coaster.

If they are getting rid of the SOB station there is opportunity to redesign the plaza going to The Bat. If they open that area up with a couple of flats, it could help The Bat's ridership.

^ I agree with all of your points. One thing I think CF could take away from SIX is that they give higher merchandise discounts based upon the membership tier. CF upping the merchandise discount on platinum passes up to 15 or 20% versus the current 10% would be a nice perk for platinum pass holders.

I agree with the Herschend and Busch level of themeing and landscaping. One of the things that amazed me about BGW is that in a lot of cases you can't really see other areas of the park until you are in them. I also like the amount of varied merchandise like blacksmith shops, candle shops, and wood crafts.

What do you think would be the best flat that Wonderland has that KI doesn't based on lack of downtime and GP popularity?