Rivertown Rider

As others have said, by just removing the 3 point challenge, you could easily put another flat there. In addition, the spot on the other side of the Diner would a great place for a flat as well.

There are plenty of flats that we could add that would be great for the park and are still made. In no particular order: More family type flats: Tilt a whirl, Musik Express, Teacups/Keggers type spinner, a Seastorm type ride, something like Moose on the Loose More extreme flats: Screamin' Swing, Top Scan, Skyroller, Zamperla Hawk 48 Obviously these are just a few, but I think the success of the Antiques shows that there is certainly an audience for flats.

Definitely something like Maverick would be my first choice from Intamin but I figure if we get a multilaunch, it would be a Mack.

^ I definitely can see it going to CGA. With a small footprint it would be a great addition to that park.

I didn't mind the Joker coasters (I've ridden the ones at SFGAdv and SFGAm) and for what they are they have good capacity. If we did get one, it wouldn't be something that I would ride every time I'm at the park though. Now if CF worked out a deal with S&S where KD was getting a free spin and we were getting a Screamin' Swing, I would be quite pleased with that. You could pretty easily make a Screamin' Swing work in Rivertown, Oktoberfest, or AZ.

My prediction on Racer is that they'll paint and go back to the original painting scheme for the 50th. I have no inside info on that, it is just a prediction.

Hopkins is still around in the form of Whitewater West. While they do Shoot the Chutes rides, ala Congo Falls, a Super Flume in Rivertown would bring back that KCKC feel. An existing example of the Super Flume is Daredevil Falls at Dollywood. I unfortunately can't see the park adding a new water ride when they have steadily become less popular over the years though.

Flight Deck at Wonderland is my all time worst. Many of the other ones mentioned in this thread, I would agree are bad as well. Time Warp at CW, Nighthawk and Vortex (both at Carowinds), The Boss at SFSTL, Mean Streak (CP), T3 (KK), and Lost Coaster at IB (it may not the worst coaster I ever rode but it was certainly the weirdest) would all be under consideration as well. As far as KI, I had a love/hate relationship with SOB. In the early years, I was an apologist but objectively it was not a great coaster. SOB is a great example that when enthusiasts always rave about bigger and better that bigger doesn't necessarily mean best. Mystic is a prime example of not the biggest but it is one of the best woodies I've been on. With current day KI, I will happily send them $10 to assist with the removal of Invertigo, but besides Invertigo, I think our coaster lineup is solid.

I could certainly see another S&S wing at a park like WOF or VF or Dorney. I do think it would be smart for CF to look at buying multiple sets of flats from companies though. I think if they are serious about spreading out the coaster installations then they'll probably need to pad out their flats collection at most of their parks. I don't think adding similar flats carries the same stigma anyways since there are very few unique flats anyways.

I would love for them to add something like Time Traveler. Having a ride like that less than 5 hours away would be great. I do expect the hotel piece to be detailed. I also look for them to add a dark ride in the next couple of years as well as a railroad dropoff/pickup at Wildwood Grove. They are also eventually going to have to do something about parking because it seems like Dollywood keeps getting more and more popular.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Camp Snoopy renovation in the next year or two and that would a great time to change out Boo Blasters. I realize that it is considered part of IS, but most people going to the park would consider it to be part of Planet Snoopy.

AE is still a great ride. Sometimes people don't understand that families are more likely to come to park where there are things that the whole family can do just not the teens riding the extreme coasters. KI has enough land to accommodate both. It is also things like AE which are why IMO, CP may have a better overall coaster lineup but KI is a better overall park.

My pick would be a brand new topper track RMC. Something like Outlaw Run or Goliath at SFGAm would be great. I want them to stay away from a launch like Lightning Rod because that ride has always had notorious downtime, said as someone who is at Dollywood 8 or so times a year.

A few thoughts that I have: 1. If those are restrooms to the left in the picture of the Chaos building, hats off to Cedar Fair for putting those in. Time will tell if those get built in 5 and a half weeks or not but this is great news if that is true. 2. The themed food stand appears to be already finished right in front of Chaos. Wonder what type of food that they will have? Will we finally get our season long mac and cheese stand? 3. The old entrance to the FOF queue appears to be leveled out instead of sloped like it was before. I believe part of what was going in there was lockers, but is it possible part of the area will also be a store? I believe the blueprints showed the entire new queue for FOF going around thru part of the old Firehawk queue. 4. Above all, I am most curious what they are doing beside of the exit to FOF. Is it possible we are getting a flat?

That is one of the things I am curious about is to see if they are going to regrade any of the land at all. With The Vortex removal it gives them a great opportunity to redesign that corner of the park.

I am definitely in favor of a Camp Snoopy conversion, the woodsy aesthetic would also result in a much better transition from International Street to Camp Snoopy to Rivertown than what is there presently. As part of the transformation to Camp Snoopy, I would also love to see them move the Eagles/Gliders over across from Shake, Rattle, and Roll in the plot that the original Eagles were on. The 3 point challenge could always be relocated elsewhere in the park.

While I think a re-theme of BLSC would be great, even a name change would be helpful.

Nitro, NJFTP, June 2019

It makes you wonder if they went back to the drawing board with BGW getting two coasters two years in a row. If that is the case maybe KD doesn't get a new coaster until '22.

Winterfest 2019

^ Thanks for putting that together. It wouldn't surprise me if Orion ends up doing even better numbers than Banshee capacity wise as both Leviathan and Fury have been very efficient the times I have ridden them. RMC really needs to figure out how to make their throughput much better. I know there is only so much they can do with their restraints but headliner coasters should be much more efficient than they are.

I'm really saddened by the closure. My wife and I went on the Saturday of Labor Day Weekend in 2018 and had a great time. Indiana Beach was really an engineering marvel in that they packed so much into such a small amount of space. While Cornball Express seems to get more love from people, I actually preferred Hoosier Hurricane because of how it went long and gave a scenic view of the lake. Their swings out by the lake was probably the best set of swings I've ever ridden as well. While I hope someone steps in to buy the park it is probably doubtful, it is kind of in the middle of nowhere and not close enough to a major metro area nor it is a big enough of a park to get the interest of any of the major operators. I do hope Cedar Fair steps in to buy some of the flats. Both the Tilt a Whirl and Music Express would be great additions to KI. The Giant Gondola Wheel and Paratrooper would also be welcome additions. Steel Hawg would also be a good addition to a park like Michigan's Adventure. I hope someone buys Tigg'rr as well.

It doesn't look like there has been much noticeable movement today.

It will be interesting to see if they widen the pathways with Vortex being gone. The area back by WindSeeker has needed some more space but that should be less of an issue this year since Vortex exit traffic won't be happening anymore.

It will be interesting to see what if anything comes from this. I enjoyed Kennywood when I went there back in 2018, but I have read many horror stories from others about ops issues. As far as being for sale, it is almost a park that is too small to be big and too big to be small. Six Flags would completely ruin what charm is left of it and I don't know if Cedar Fair would be interested. From a Cedar Fair standpoint it could be a good option if they could get past the size concerns. It is not directly competing with any of the existing Cedar Fair parks but could certainly add potential Platinum Passes from the people who live in parts of northern Ohio, western Pennsylvania, and West Virginia.