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^ I need some clarification. Is this poll about coaster collection or coaster quality? I have seen comments for both sides. If it is about collection, KI rates an average. Not having an inverted or stand-up hurts in this department. If it is about quality, KI is barely an average. KI only has 3 coasters that I no problem waiting in line for over an hour.

Wow, where the heck is my mind... Yes, it was. Still out of my mind though...

Does this so called "expert" realize that people like John Allen designed and built coasters for years without computers to assist them? When he says that you can't do it without a computer, he really means that HE can't do it without a computer. Makes me wonder if he is capable of adding 2 plus 2 without a calculator! I believe we need to read between the lines with that comment. While the article could have been written clearer, but it did say this: Bold emphasis added: Was it John Allen that suggested where the new supports went, or was it PP engineers with all their years of coaster construction experience? Did JA intend for a certain type of wood to be used, or was a decision made after his portion of the design was completed? And did JA expect PP to take the project over from RCCA? IMO, with this information, it is apparent that SoB was doomed from the start. This article could very well be the final nail in a well sealed coffin.

Exactly. When the Peanut specials are on, Nick gets turned off, and that is my kids' choice. We also have the privledge of having paid TV for Nick, many families do not, so the luster of Peanuts has not worn off as opposed to Sponge Bob which they can see at any time. Even more satisfying is now that my daughter is getting old enough to read on her own, she opens the newspaper to the comics and reads Peanuts (But her favorite is Baby Blues). I would love to see HB come back to KI, but since CF has Peanuts, that will probably never happen. Good question. Why did Paramount purchase KI and destroy the themeing KECO laid out? Rivertown? Gone. Octoberfest? Gone. International Street? Gone. Hanna-Barberaland? Gone. Adventure Village? Gone. I really did not expect CF to bring back those themed areas, they are not in the theme park business. In the video: "Riding History to the Limits" http://www.cetconnect.org/KingsIsland/ you can clearly see the themed areas that were lost during the Paramount years. It is quite apparent that Paramount was more intrested in promoting their own brand as opposed to what the park patrons wanted. With the exception of FoF, you are happy with the 3 other coasters Paramount installed in 13 years? I would rather have FH & DB in the whole 3 full years CF has owned it.

You can sit back and nit-pick everything to death, and it still wouldn't matter. Seriously, you are complaining about a map. Really? It's just a park map. I actually cannot recall the last time I said to my wife: "darn honey, that was one hell of a park map, we are going back tomorrow!" Good riddance Nick. I wasn't happy with their introduction, but I am certainly happy they are leaving. I would also like to see your facts that back up the statement that "Peanuts" are unfamiliar with children today. Seems to me that if "Peanuts" were so "unfamiliar" the seasonal specials would not be on primetime nationwide TV nor would their comics be ran in almost every newspaper nationwide. And how can you possibly blame CF for SoB or Crypt? Both rides were fantastic failures long before CF signed a check to Paramount. Ride names mean absolutely zip. Does the name change the ride? And if you really want to complain about ride names, start with Paramount's decisions to name rides off crappy movies (i.e. Drop Zone, Face Off, Italian Job, Days of Thunder) and destroying The Beast legacy with SoB and Tomb Raider with rides that are rather terrible. I would rather hear you say that you just hate CF as opposed to coming up with weak arguements to bring up.

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^ Sorry, but you are looking to Ryan for a hard date? Mmmmm... Joking aside, it would be interesting to see this happen.

^ All you can really easily see of SoB (unless you are on the Eiffel Tower) is the first hill. And just from an aesthetic standpoint, Vortex is better. You really think the public is going to be ticked off to lose SoB? C'mon. The ride has been nothing but a sob from day 1, and it has only graced the skyline for 10 years. If anything, being able to see the ride just brings up failed memories for many people. And for that piece of land, you could put in 3 quality rides. Just because SoB has a large footprint does not mean the next ride has to equal it.

You guys are both on crack. Just from a numbers standpoint, in order, at CP in 2008: *numbers denote total ridership* Magnum: 1,789,387 MF: 1,683,845 Raptor: 1,609,503 ID: 1,563,269 Gemini: 1,549,768 TTD: 1,210,327 Maverick: 1,131,319 CS:1,109,256 Mantis: 1,016,505 WT: 971,470 DT: 944,853 MS: 849,746 CCMR: 842,087 BS: 791,655 Now, if you divide the total ridership by the estimated capacity per hour you get, again in order: *hrs. denote total hours with full capacity* MF: 1052 hrs. Maverick: 942 hrs. Magnum: 894 hrs. Raptor: 894 hrs. TTD: 806 hrs. WT: 802 hrs. ID: 781 hrs. CS: 616 hrs. BS: 608 hrs. Mantis: 564 hrs. MS: 531 hrs. DT: 524 hrs. Gemini: 469 hrs. CCMR: 350 hrs. First, these are VERY rough numbers that DO NOT take: weather, downtime, ERT, CoasterMania etc. or if the ride operates during Halloweekends. So don't split hairs. This is the information given, so this is what we have to use. If we believed that total ridership equaled popularity, Magnum is # 1. That also means Gemini & ID are more popular than Maverick & TTD. I'm sorry, but that is laughable, because there is NO WAY either of those rides are more popular than Maverick & TTD. Next does bigger mean better? Well TTD is the highest, and only reaches #6 in rides and #5 in capacity/ hr. Maverick @ 105' is #2 above the much larger TTD, Magnum, & Raptor. Now if you added where each coaster ranked for both catagories, lower the number being the more popular for my little experiment: 1. MF 2. Magnum 3. Raptor 4. Maverick 5. ID 6. TTD 7. CS 8. WT 9. Gemini 10. Mantis 11. BS 12. DT 13. MS 14. CCMR And just for those that believe a long line means the ride is popular: ID is usually a 15 minute wait. TTD usually has about an hour wait, but here you can see the compared ridership & capacity- ID is equaled in popularity. Again, laughable. *Disclaimer* There was absolutely no science used here.

Yes there something wrong with Drop Zone. The drops are not thrilling. The action is lacking. It's really not long enough. It feels too "fake". The people associated with Drop Zone do not seem to act out the part. There is no storyline. It's too predictable. And Wesley Snipes is a poor lead.

If the decision for SoB to be dismantled come during the 2009-2010 offseason, I expect the actual work to start after the 2010 season. That gives the park a good 4 years to decide what to do with the land, if anything at all. Normally, there is a 3-5 year window of planning a major ride like a coaster for any park. No? Then what did you mean by this: Added BOLD emphasis: Eiffel Tower is about 350' Drop Tower is 315' SoB is 218' How do you possibly believe that SoB is the tallest ride? And even then, the most impressive thing with the KI skyline is the Eiffel Tower. SoB isn't even close.

A coaster does not have to be REAL record breaking to be a great ride (i.e. El Toro, Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Maverick, DB, etc.) And if SoB is taken down, do not expect anything to take it's place til 2015 at the earliest.

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While I do agree that CF lacks on overall theming (but, they are also not in the theme park business), the theming for Planet Snoopy & Camp Snoopy at CP is quite fantastic. I would expect at least the same results for KI.

I admit, technically that that would solve THAT problem...but then there is always the "But my kids don't LIKE The Peanuts" hurdle. For those parents: when have you given your kids the opportunity to actually see/ read Peanuts?

I find it impossible for her to have been injured if she was the only one on the train to have an alleged injury.

^ Do you have the link? Great move. Let's drink, bring a gun to an event that is not dangerous (at least till he pulled the gun), and completely overreact. Given his position, and the responsibilities that go with it, he should be handed termination papers. Another link: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/21430106/detail.html

Those magnets are not adjustable unless they are removed. Chances are, the track was damp/ wet which made the train faster and you didn't notice the magnets as much.

^ Oh, so they learned from their mistake. Isn't that what we are looking for?

"If you take care of the small things, the big things take care of themselves." - Emily Dickinson "Don't sweat the small stuff"- Richard Carlson I am not quite sure what you mean. According to this thread, it was announced on the website that KI was going to be closed down due to weather: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19949

They removed the magnets? Intresting...

Saturdays during Halloweekends are actually busier than most Saturdays in July and August. It is nuts. Now Sundays during Halloweekends, that is the time to go, with the exception of Columbus Day weekend.

Who besides a KI fanatic is really going to notice wrong pictures or vague descriptions? Minor web site innaccuracies will not take away from the overall park experience. Now the radio ad and URL, that does need to be taken care of. Why not leave the shows on the site so when people visit the site in the off-season, they understand that the park does have shows?

I suggest that the park just open the doors and let everyone in for free, that way they can't squeeze anyone anymore. The lines will be unbearable, and we won't be able to enjoy it like we do now. But hey, it will be free! Nope. No sarcasm here.

^ Not necessarily. Settling out of court does not admit any type of guilt. And once a case is settled, it cannot be re-filed. And in this particular case, KI did not deny her injury; they questioned the severity of it. So to answer your question, no, the outcome of this case will not have bering on future cases.