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I work 3rd shift.

^ Ah. That explains it. I hardly ever go into BB. I was really hoping it did not stand for Days UF Thunder.

^ What is DUT? It is probably the easiest thing to figure out, but, I'm stumped.

^ There has been many opinions thrown around about online petitions and how pointless they are. This is one that is worth it.

The thing is; GL's closing was not unexpected. That rumor has been flying around since Steel Venom & X-Flight were being taken down.

History clearly shows that it is not a factor when it comes down to a park's plan for new rides. Especially now with Paramount out of the picture and the park being under CF's ownership for over one year now.

Being depressed and losing sleep because of a park is closing? Especially a park that has been rumored to close for the last year.... I seriously wish that my life would be so easy that a issue of this magnitude is the reason I would lose sleep.

There is not a whole lot different from your theory and what actually happened in 2007. CF built Maverick, Renegade, and Sierra Sidewinder new for 2008. They spent big bucks on all the work done for SoB, including new trains. They also removed two rides from GL, relocating one of them with the other ride to be reconstructed in 2008. Not to mention, CF has not given a timetable of when they are going to remove, transport, and reconstruct rides from GL. It could drag out for up to five years. Or CF could put some rides for sale and put the cost of taking the rides out onto the buyer.

^ I guess I'm confused on how you are getting ripped off. You paid a flat rate to enjoy the park as many times as you wish, and that rate is actually paid off in 3 visits. HH is a special event that includes attractions that are not at the park all summer. And you think that you should not have to pay an extra fee? When you buy a car, do you expect the car with the standard 3.0 engine and the 2.7 twin turbo to be the same price? Of course not. One is normal, one is special. Wow. We don't even know of how HH will go this year, but from all the early reports it is going to be a huge hit. And you are already comparing it to Winterfest? How is that even possible? There were many TR the last few years, after Paramount stopped making FF an upcharge event, that there were too many people in the park and that you could not enjoy all the haunts in one night and it wasn't worth the money that was paid. Then this year the rumor that HH will be an upcharge event, and that pi$$ed everyone off because they were not notified when they purchased their pass. But it turned out to be just a rumor and HH is still free this year. Now the park has already told everyone that HH in '08 will be an upcharge, and people are still pi$$ed. Can't some people ever be satisfied?

At least not in 2008. But in the next 5 years? Sure it is possible.

This is not like the difference between fire engine red and brick red, so it is not a gray area of discussion. The difference between blue and grey is not a matter of opinion. And if you didn't care, why even mention that you thought it was blue?

It really seems that some are letting their emotions get the most of them. While it is sad that the park has to close, there also has to be some understanding as to the decision that it was closed. Nobody was going. The park was losing money. CF gave it 4 years of changes, and unfortunately, people still did not come. How long do you expect a business to continue to fund something that is failing? Try to remember the park the way it used to be, anf try and forget the last 10 years. If you really want to experience old Geauga, take a trip to Kennywood or Hershey (especially around Comet). It will bring a smile, and a tear, to your face.

It would seem that each park is trying to communicate to the public that these particular drop rides are different than the ride at SFKK. I'm not sure if this is the best way, but, I'm also not sure of another way of communicating it. This is very disturbing.

There is nothing at that site stating that CP was at the brink of becoming a housing development. Sure, that may have been a plan, but it certainly was not a "last second change of mind".

I would like to see some information on that fact.

For those who loved GL... Sorry, it is gone. It would take a miracle to save it now. This was not an easy decision for CF to make (even though conspiracy theorists will argue with that). You can take the time to sign the petition, but it will only be a waste of time. CF is currently balencing their 2008 budget, which does not include GL. Now some can try and make the arguement that they will not go to a CF park anymore; and CF's response will be a quick "sorry to hear that, but, you didn't visit GL anyway. That is why it is closing."

Sad, but not exactly surprising. It is funny though to listen to other people and how they blame CF for ruining the park and they cannot believe that it is coming to this.

Lets just agree to disagree and call it a day.

The land for the majority of Vortex is much higher than the land for Beast. That entire area slopes down toward the Little Miami River. Where is there a river on highland, where the lower land is dry? And please don't say New Orleans. And if you are going to show pictures, show the whole ride and land. Not just a small part of the ride to try and save your arguement.

While it may appear that the land is lower, it is not. After being on many behind the scenes tours of both rides, it is clear the total land that Vortex is on is higher than Beast station. Perhaps part of the land (lift hill) would be below Beast station, but for this particular discussion of Vortex sinking (which is rather foolish) a majority of the land is well above the station.

Vortex does not sit below Beast. Not even close. From the outside... .. looking in. AGAIN!

Well the story is now (take it for what it's worth) that the whole video was staged per request of the young boy's parents and the lady that stopped Pluto was actually a third party not understanding what was going on. Again, this is just another story out there. But after watching the video, I would have to think that if Pluto (costume and all) really wanted to get the kid, he could have. It also explains on why it appears that there is no supporting cast member with Pluto; they were just not in the video. Eh, who knows...

Sundays in September & October are traditionally slow, with the exception of Columbus Day weekend. I would avoid the park that entire weekend unless I was with a travel group. But still, you never know. The weather forcast has looked good all week, so there could be many people planning on going as well.

The park flies South for the winter.

The only way that I can see the heartline roll come back is if they make it a very gradual roll as opposed to the quick roll (or compact) that it was.