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Nice pics! When did you get the new camera? Keep up the good work!

There has to be more to the story than what is reported: http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/man-injures-leg-at-tokyo-disneysea-park http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20120529p2a00m0na005000c.html

It was already broke; which is why it hit the ground! Seriously though, these rides are engineered & built to withstand enormous amounts of pressure & not just "break". This is why it is funny for some to claim SoB is currently "falling" apart.

Be very sad. What year did you experience SoB?

^ great. What will you do when it is torn down?

I cannot imagine why CF would even think of purchasing The Beach.

It's a good thing most of America does not feel this way. As our country has grown and succeeded globally with entrepreneurs and small business. Where one has failed, another has ideas that could be great.

Pat Koch has no ego, has lived her dream, vocally supports her children in their ventures- good or bad, and (most notably) is well over 70. Interpreting that she is not part of BB due to what some want to predict as failure is simply grasping at straws to voice a personal agenda.

Chances are, you both are referring to the same thing.

I can remember all queues full & the line reached the Eiffel Tower.

^ Do you have a season pass?

^ It's not the cost many are upset with, but because the program allows people to jump ahead of others. I would like to see the price increased to at least $75.

Just numbers from the outside looking in: 8800 season passes sold for 2012 = $792,000 The debts have to be much more than this or the doors would have stayed open. They owners may just let the park go w/o filing bankruptcy. I only say this because, typically, in Chaper 7 a trustee sells all of its assets, and then distributes the proceeds to its creditors (including season ticket holders). Any residual amount is returned to the owners of the company. It must have been REALLY bad though; at least Chapter 11 allows the doors to stay open- which is always more attractive to potential suitors. Unless like Gordon mentioned, a potential suitor is looking into a purchase. Can anyone tell if minor maintenance is being done? (i.e. lawn mowed?) If so, it is very possible it is being looked at.

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^ Yeah, I've seen that. I just really remember the lake being there much longer than 8 years. I believe when the exit ramp modification was done is when the lake was removed.

Business don't close their doors unless they can't pay bills. Given The Beach was forced to close, it is safe to assume all money owed is probably in the millions of dollars- and I am not over exaggerating at all. The Beach issue did not just happen overnight. Vendors NEVER want to cease service to a customer, unless there is no choice, because once service is stopped (in this case, the water was turned off) it is unlikely to recover 100%, if any, money owed. Think about that for a second- the water was turned off at a waterpark. If they cannot pay for the # 1 reason we go there, they have to be behind on everything else. Sure, a liquidation sale will probably take place. But the items, including land, is only as valuable as what someone is willing to pay. For $hits & giggles, let's say there will be money left for the season pass holders. When will they see it? Maybe a year? I'll bet at least 2 years because everything has to be finalized. They would be better served with the current offers. A bird in the had is better than two in a bush.

That will absolutely be the judge's goal. Like I mentioned, you can't squeeze blood out of a turnip. If the money is gone, and there is no income. The customer is SOL. The patrons did give money to pay utility bills which then leads to delivering services. It REALLY sucks for those people, but it is what it is.

^^Very true. I'm sure The Beach was an S-Corp. meaning the owner(s) cannot have personal assets taken away. Any assets on park property or on park records are open season to be liquidated. EDIT: Unfortunately, the larger bills due will be paid 1st (i.e.: taxes-land & payroll, water, outstanding loans, services rendered and items purchased) and the season pass holders will be last to see anything. The money collected for season pass sales probably went to other bills due. While the AG may be attempting to soothe the season pass holders, he also has to keep other viable businesses in mind. Having someone lose a couple hundred is bad, having a business lose a few thousand is worse (which goes back to the "headline theory"- those reading the story will be able to personally relate to those that lost $$ vs. a business owner). As long as The Beach can accurately prove where the Season Pass income was allocated, those screwed out of their hard earned money will get the short end of the stick. It maybe a bitter pill to swallow, but they should take up KI's offer- it's better than nothing.

^ it probably is for show. I wonder if the AG is up for re-election soon.

Good luck. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.

It is not a big deal, but..... I still have questions when the lake was removed as I can remember vividly in the mid 90's the lake still being present. I brought my then g/f to KI for her first trip and remeber her getting sprayed in the front train queue near the paddle wheel (it was something about her hair ).

Sounds like a personal experience. An icky yes. I also don't believe to be alone in this experience.

fact/fakt/ Noun: A thing that is indisputably the case. Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article. Synonyms: reailty- deed - actuality - truth - case - circumstance This seems more appropriate: hear·say/ˈhi(ə)rˌsā/ Noun: Information received from other people that cannot be adequately substantiated; rumor. The report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law. Synonyms: rumour - rumor - report - gossip - whisper - scuttlebutt Although if fact, how can it be a rumor? Just sayin'.

Probably about the same amount that have quit going to other parks that have, for years, had the same system.

Round. Round. Round. Round. Stop. 11 year old next to you pukes. Restroom. Water. Push soap. Scrub. Air dryer. Rinse. Repeat.