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Is KI's SINKING???

^ Is it really?

Enthusiasts may not like cookie-cutter stuff, but it works for big companies. The same Big Mac you get around the corner is the same Big Mac you get in Tokyo. Or in our terminology- the same Eiffel Tower you see in Mason is the same Eiffel Tower you see in Doswell.

^ Lemme guess, you are the only one allowed to claim to have inside information.

^^ No, and the reason being everything would change. What is known as the "TG Treatment" literally made an entire new coaster minus the name. For this to be done on SoB, the cost would be so tremendous, it isn't worth it given SoB's dark history. TG cost= $10 million for a 4920' coaster with a 153' hill. SoB was 7032' with a 218' hill & additional drops of 164' & 150'. Rough numbers= Initial SoB cost was reported near $15 million. Renovations & modifications were reported around $10 million. It would be safe to say a "TG Treatment" would be $15 million+ making SoB one one the most expensive non-themed wood coasters on the planet. All this, plus, would the company that did the "TG Treatment" be willing to be associated with SoB and it's history? One incident could take everyone associated with SoB down- and it could be some moron that decided to break a rule. It's just not worth it.

meh, it does not bother me either way. The gate is dated. IR is dated, and cannot be used for public events. Something new, fresh, & open would be nice. Although, walking onto the bright midway to see IS & the fountain from the present gate is always breathtaking.

Nice pics. I laugh at the negative FB comments; some are upset about getting wet.

Strike that. It's down again. We need a breaking news section for KIC!

It would be a great laugh if SS posted the original article!

Honestly, flip a coin. I have seen both extremes at a few parks. There is no rhyme or reason. Using CP as an example- usually not too busy on Memorial Day because it is far away enough from major cities that people don't leave the traditional picnics for a quick trip to the park. Saturday & Sunday are a different story- especially this year with the fantasic weather forecast.

^ A fellow KIC member has confirmed DB is running.

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Given that 4 years ago the meeting was near Knott's, why is this news significant?

Ah, memories....

No, I highly doubt that they actually wanted it closed on opening day. I am, however, suggesting that someone dropped the ball on this big time. Whether that someone is at CF or Mondial is beyond my capability to speculate. Both sides are professionals and know what work needs to be done for a ride to operate on opening day.Since we know the fix is out there, and by all appearances the fix is working, it comes down to scheduling. SNAFUs happen, and I have had to take off my enthusiast hat to understand that (especially in 2000). KI is just on the short end of the stick and will be w/o WS for a couple weeks until the work can be completed.

I highly doubt many know what the real issue is, but we can narrow it down: - It is not a track issue since trains have been seen cycling - It is not a transfer track issue (same above reason) - It is not a specific train issue (ditto) It has to be a continuous operation issue. My guess that is it a sensor issue that cannot be overridden- perhaps a safety sensor?? Continuously overriding a safety sensor defeats the reason for the sensor.

^So you are suggesting KI/ CF did not want WS operating for opening day?

Due to their obession with themselves and the members tendency to all think like robots, I tend to take information on TPR about as valuable as info found on SS. Like I mentioned, even if the updated dampeners were on Knott's WS, there is only so much time in the day, and physical resources, to get all the necessary work accomplished.

My understanding is that 2012 WS shock absorbers were not used or tested prior to Carowind's 2012 version. Even if they were on Knott's WS, there still is limited time to build and install two new WS as well as modify 4 others.

^ Did the seats come close/ danger of hitting each other like last year?

How often do you go to the park per year?

^ You can pick and choose all you want. Paying more for a perk, is paying more for a perk..... Just like those with ERT perks are paying to step ahead of you before the park opens at 10:00am and are already in line/ riding even if you get to the park at 8:00am. That is, unless you paid extra for a pass with perks.....

Rumor has it (and it wasn't on SS?? ) hydraulics were failing, and the ride needed to be taken apart/ reassembled a few different times to properly troubleshoot.

dang fat fingers....

Not trying to be argumentative, but did we? - I don't recall any info being shared about it not opening with the park for the season - After it didn't open, I heard Knotts was also down - New ones and Cedar Point all opened on time Maybe I missed something, but it caught me by surprise. Carowinds opened their new (2012) WindSeeker the end of March with the new shock absorbers and it was known (but perhaps not here- other sites- namely CB: http://coasterbuzz.c...-its-WindSeeker http://coasterbuzz.c...-fun-than-scary http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25538-is-WindSeeker-running-yet/page__fromsearch__1 that discussed it) about all the WindSeekers being updated. There is just not enough days to properly test the two new WS (as well as test the new shock absorbers), make the decision to use the new shock absorbers on the older models, manufacture the new shock absorbers, and then update the 2011 models- KI just happens to be last on the list.