silver2005

B&M has done duel stations before, but more along the lines of Firehawk's station. Its only on a few of their flying coasters, though, I can't imagine they'd not utilize it on other models. With the capacity B&M hypers offer, I don't really think 2 stations or a duel station is necessary. B&M flyers have the excuse of lengthy loading times at least. Also, you can't really say what B&M can and can't do with a giga since they've only built 2. Two is not a trend. Also also- I remember a time before Leviathan that everyone was saying B&M would never go over 250 ft. They've also been delving into different inversion and element types and shaping as well (ex. notice newer B&M's don't have the pre-drop after the lift anymore). They're certainly changing, just in more subtle ways than everyone wants them to.

Concerning food- I wish Kings Island had somewhere with an actual decent burger. Juke Box's are really sub par, Reds HOFG aren't that much better.

I want to keep Invertigo, I think every park should have a shuttle coaster in their lineup, and its easily the most intense coaster in the park despite its stature. I am about 50/50 on riding it and getting a rough ride out of it.

Yes, I only rode it once a visit if the line was only so far, mainly due to the original OTSR's. The launch made it worth the wait though. I do miss when the video in the queue was more immersive with the hangar and the room would react to the video more. I was too short in 1996 to ride it, but got above 54" by the next season. And thank heavens Premier switched it to lap bars. One of my friends on the baseball team I was in each summer had a dad (who's since passed away) that helped build it back in the winter of '95-'96. I have the news article somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it up.

I'm doing the opposite of @Oldiesmann and doing my first Holiwood Nights in place of Coasterstock. I may show up that weekend to hang with KICers though, may indulge in a Fast Lane to pass the time.

@MonteCristo As for clubs, just go to their respective websites and see what each of them have to offer. A lot of members here are members of various clubs and can vouch for them respectively (including yours truly as a member of ACE), but its ultimately up to what you want out of a club.

Fun fact- the US Navy and NASA also looked in on those 2 coasters opening in hopes to utilize LIM tech for the things they do.

I would like to see Cedar Fair branch out to different ride manufacturers like Six Flags has. Sure B&M's are reliable, but there's plenty else out there that would make good additions to CF's ride list. I almost think CF is a bit too traditional and would like to see a more modernized approach to ride additions.

Just a heads up- I heard on the local news that KI is cancelling the job fair at the park this weekend due to weather. I believe there is still something going on online though. I forgot what website was brought up.

So when does the guide rail go on top? Is it embedded into the concrete as it dries or is it bolted down? I also didn't realize the track was that thick.

Bring back the bakeries!

In response to extremely specific fact checking, sometimes skewing the conversation-

KI is in Ohio and BGW is in Virginia. Different states have different laws. HP has to deal with similar laws, hence why Great Bear has it's funky supports.

I'm just rattling off cool elements. If CF and KI are going to drop $30 milllion+, I wanna see how much bang for the buck we can get and make it look awesome.

I think the hype worked out well regardless. Most of my GP friends I've talked to about this are pretty pleased Racer is getting some TLC, even if the retracking isn't as much as initially thought. I think the public wants Racer to be good and understand it'll take more than one off-season to get it back to being more comfortable despite the media leaving that out. Though, as I've stated before, I thought Racer was running pretty well this past season.

I have one last element request out of a giga- A Stengel dive.

Here's another kind of turnaround element I'd like to see- something like PortAventura's Shambhala. Just imagine that awesome figure 8 looking hill towering over the entrance to the parking lot. I wonder how much banking B&M would do before they consider an element an inversion... EDIT: Could someone PM me a good overhead map of Kings Island that includes (and focuses on) the area between X-Base and the parking lot entrance (updated to include Banshee). I think I may concoct some layout predictions.

^To give you perspective, Millennium Force's next tallest element is the hill going over to the island, which clocks in at around 190 ft. Fury's tallest element is also at 190. I want to see that speed put to use. Of course, I want longer stretches to cruise at 80+ mph, but having some awesome airtime at those heights would be awesome as well. A reason I like Storm Runner so much is the airtime it has with a 191 ft drop, and with the speed you get from a giga, not to mention the sustained momentum from those 4 across B&M trains, which hold speed better than the V-seating with Diamondback, I think it would still be great. I really, really don't want something like I-305 or Skyrush.

For those not in the know about coaster elements- Non-Inverted Loop http://rollercoaster.wikia.com/wiki/Non-Inverted_Loop Non-inverted corkscrew See most of the hills near the end of Superman: The Ride in SFNE (the 3 hills starting around the 1:38 mark)

Here are some other elements I hope to be part of a giga at Kings Island- - A 200 ft camel back hill (or some element topping 200 ft) - Non-inverted loop - Some sort of turn around similar to Fury 325's - Non-inverting corkscrew - If its in X-base, a hill going over the Flight of Fear building or a helix wrapping around the spaghetti bowl building - Maybe something that threads through one or more of Banshee's inversions (a giga should have the momentum to get over to The Bat from X-Base) -90 degree angle first drop - Enough height to reach 100 mph

@SonofBaconator At the same time, you have to give credit where it is due. If Intamin has made strides to be more reliable, they deserve credit. They are building quite a lot overseas including the 367 ft Red Force (0-111.9 mph in 5 seconds on LSM's, more reliable than the hydraulic launches), Energylandia's Hyperion (chain lift, no cables), and BGW's 2020 coaster is a confirmed Intamin along with SWSA's newest coaster. I haven't heard much of any major problems from them lately as well.

You Intamin fanboys might be in luck as they are making a comeback in the US thanks to the Busch/Sea World parks. You better hope they do well if they want any chance to work with FUN and SIX again.

^Or the long awaited B&M 4D coaster...

This feels reminiscent of the Shapiro maneuver SIX did in the early 2000s that led them to bankruptcy in dumping all this money into big rides. Granted, SEAS has less parks and a bit more wiggle room in terms of their markets, but this does seem a bit much in such a short time span.

Almost every B&M I've ridden is more forceful than Millennium Force (sans Valravn and Superman Ultimate Flight).