shark6495

That is correct. Usually a name of said person. But if that would get the person fired, then well maybe the information shouldnt be shared. EDIT: See below VVVVVVV

You all make me laugh with the I won't ride if it's named..... Stuff.

YEa I really was hoping Test Track could become a Cars type ride. Gives me more reasons to make a trip to the Land at some point!

Now that you mention it. That building does look like the corner of the first aid area. Were the planters always there next to the Elephant/Snoopy Statue? If not I think you may have figured it out. Thanks!

1. Well according to many articles on the interwebs and posted on here, Norway has not paid for anything since 2002. I think GYK even said that if they would have kept funding the area, they could probably have a say in it. Its like being upset that a car you used to own was repainted. Yes Disney did offer them the opportunity to re-up advertising in an area of the park that will be the most popular. 2. Disney has stated through its moves and press releases that they wanted to move the big crowds for Elsa and Anna out of MK by putting a meet and greet in another place. So I dont think this is a rush decision to put the ride in a part of Epcot that the movie was supposed to be based in. 3. Aladdin and Jasmine can be found in Morocco https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/entertainment/epcot/character-meet-aladdin-jasmine/ 4. I feel you may be on your own with that one. Many people visit WDW and DL to see things that are up to Disney standards. I loved seeing Tom Morrow, walking through the Haunted Mansion, or even walking Main Street because of the Disney magic. Seeing below average Disney rides is not what many find entertaining. Side Note here are a listing of Disney Cartoon CHaracters you can meet in Epcot Lands Aladdin and Jasmine: Morocco Belle: France Donald DUCK : Mexico Snow White: Germany Whinnie the Pooh, Tiger, Mary Poppins, Alice (from Wonderland): United Kingdom Mulan: China The point is, WDW Epcot is about learning about the countries, but to pretend this is the first time Disney is putting a cartoon character in the land is absurd.

Except Peanuts 500 has never been moved. Just changed names.....

Could it be because Atlantis was a major flop? http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_chief1/b/jim_hill/archive/2003/08/11/165.aspx You may enjoy and watch Atlantis, but I could not tell you anything more about that movie other than Michael J Fox (maybe?) was the voice of the guy who somehow was leading an expedition to find the lost city, or something. I think people have a tendency to hate things that are popular in a proportionate amount. If Frozen did poorly, it would get the kind of hate it is getting. But because its so wildly popular with people of all ages, has catchy music, has influenced pop culture, and has found a way to really get that sweet spot of taking over, more people hate it. We will take a look at Atlantis vs Frozen Box Office: Frozen: 400 Million Atlantis: 84 Million (to date) I think we could look at CD sales, merchandise sales, etc. But its all Frozen. Disney didnt force this on us. It was a solid film that hit people in the right way. Similar to Lion King, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Etc.

A simple question that's not always simple. If we are talking about sidewalks it's pretty simple. You lower the curb to a ramp so all people are able to safely make it out of the street. At a restaurant it's so everyone has an opportunity to order and eat food (Braille, picture menus, have someone read it, etc). AAC devices for the non-verbal, chairs for the non-mobile, etc. But when it comes to an entertainment company that advertises thrill rides..... What's reasonable to you and I may not be reasonable to someone else. Heck not all paraplegics are the same so that even muddies the water some more

Not sure where this convo is going. It's a very difficult line to walk. We fight for the rights of all people abled and disabled to experience the same events in similar or the same way. At the same time we accept that there are limits about what can or cannot be possible. Boiling this down to a one liner about lawyers or forged documents or he said / she said does a great disservice to the conversation that needs to be happening. It's easy to say nope can't ride sorry we can doctor the experience or vice versa if you just change this part.....

This message board, like the rest of the internet, is a big echo chamber. We hear/read the info that we like to see/believe and it makes our opinions grow deeper. If we are to look at it purely from an economic side, the ride is aging and the company needs a fresh way to bring people to that park. This move is no different than putting Aladdin and Jasmine in their land in Epcot. From an artistic point, yes it's sad but it's not a museum piece. One day all rides will give their last rides to be replaced by something that some will say is a shoddy replacement. There are a few of us who despise that Stunt Coaster replaced the Antique Cars. But we tend to ignore the price of gas, and maintenance of those vehicles. When SC leaves there will be a generation or 3 that will mourn its loss and hate it's replacement. Movies like Frozen do not happen all the time. If Disney wanted to put this in New Fantasyland that would be great, but they have a land that is in need of an influx of new blood and energy. If the Norway Tourism board was concerned about the way they are being represented in Disney then I would have expected them to be making monetary donations or payments to help upkeep that land. Odds are this will be a great ride experience that many will enjoy.

^ yup can't agree more.

Yea when we go to Disney next year baby shark will be wearing a leash backpack but that's more incase he let's go of my hand and tries to run off or if someone tries to snatch him.

I saw a parent with a leash back lead him like a dog, he jerked him left or right etc. versus keepin the kid from running away... That type of control is what I was speaking of

That's the ride I was talking about in another thread^. Where was that ride located? Also the old vintage photo looks different with out the season pass booths built

I wonder if preventative Maintenon would have helped keep the effects longer or if it just really tore up the track

It looks like it says "Intern"

^ depends on the kids. When I was 10 or so my mom would trust for my sister and I (she was 9ish) to stand on the midway while she rode a ride or I could stay home by myself at that age. But I was also very aware of my surroundings and very mature. I have friends who wouldnt have been able to be left alone for minutes at the age of 15. I get what you are saying though. No way would I leave my kid alone just so I can have fun. sort of like the people who use the leash backpacks to control their kids versus keep them safe.

I have told this story before. I worked in the clown room at the Dent School House (probably 10 or so years ago), when a young couple came in. The girl looked frightened right away. The clowns (there were 3 of us) swarmed the couple in different ways. Each time, the girl (16-18 ish) would scream, jump, and hide in her BFs shoulder. Well as they were nearing the end, I jumped from below to scare the girl one more time. she screamed, started crying, and her BF punch me in the shoulder. He yelled something along the lines of "get out of the way." Well you cant just punch an actor. Our security team rushed into the room and escorted them out of the house to chit chat with the officer on duty. Moral of the story: Dont come/bring kiddos if you or they cant handle everything.

I may be the only one (or not) but if Disney would have bought Kings Island, I know one family with its extended family would have been super beyond happy to ride The Beast and hang with Mickey.

Exactly^. I am a huge Haunt person. But I would not take a 5-8 year old kiddo to Universal haunt events, or even Dent School House. When you work in a haunted house, as a scare-actor you go for the person who gives you the most reaction. You dont "pick on" anyone. But if someone is crying or scared you continue to pick on them, because you assume they are there because they enjoy it. If a parent makes the very bad decision to take their kid into something thats way too young for them, then its the fault of the parent not the actors.

I would disagree with you by saying 16 months (even though, admittedly I have not the slightest idea how long it takes to build and test a ride) is about the right amount for Disney to perfect everything (with some time to open early if needed?) Even in a perfect world to rewire/repaint/refurnish the ride (with just adding the Frozen story line to the current layout) would take maybe 9-12 months? So maybe the 16 month is a way for official opening while soft openings happen at 12? I honestly have no idea, how long it would take to change over a ride. How long did it take for Phantom Theater to become Scooby Doo?

Why would a parent take a kid through events like this? If you are wondering your kids is too young then they are.

I'm sort of surprised that people are calling Frozen a fad or a money grab. As others have said it's the highest grossing animated film. The movie is a good one. People loved the Incredibles, Wall-E, and Tangled, but none of those movies stayed in the collective thoughts as much as Frozen did. Did you know the Frozen soundtrack was the #7 top sold CD last month? That's a year after it came out. It's till a top 10 CD sold, at a time when many people own the Blue Ray. Little Mermaid and the likes didn't get rides immediately. But that's not a reason to not put in a current ride or area. The Land has an entire area themed to Cars. Lightning McQueen and Elsa are probably bigger than Mickey for most Disney aged kids. I think we have a tendency to forget the main reasons WDW and DL along with all the other Disney Parks are in operating for. 1. Make money 2. Let families create shared experiences and bonds 3. Let children of all ages meet the characters they enjoy. Someone mentioned the movie the Rescuers. Yes that was a good film but 1-2 years after it was out most forgot or didn't mention them at all. And yes Disney will and has slapped Olaf on lunch boxes because kids want him. You can spend your days upset that the past is the past or you can make the most from today. Plus if Maelstorm was a super popular ride, it wouldn't be changing. Tower of Terror isn't being changed anytime soon.

Well SOB station would have been torn down if it wasn't for Haunt. And the old Holiday Horror was always built then taken down, same with the old slaughter house. Screws can be removed.

Holy edit of the original post. I guess you read into what you want to see while ignoring facts. Sccard really believes he is the only one who believes in and wants the park to survive.