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On the topic of Cedar Creek Mine Ride, its getting some minor work done on it. https://www.cedarpoint.com/blog/a-mine-r-enhancement?fbclid=IwAR1xrlBozUupASh2m5ut4V8rqGmQIJdTuWoxaHffB-SyC_ErrQPHfzxcclw

Be careful what you wish for...

This is extremely similar to how Cedar Point does their employee dorms. I paid the same amount as KI is charging which is a more than fair price. I got to meet different people from different parts of the country and even different parts of the world that I still talk to on facebook and such. We also had trips to different parts of the country like Niagra Falls and Chicago. I was an intern so I was fortunate enough to stay in an apartment as opposed to a dorm; nothing was wrong with the dorms but the apartments had more room and slightly more amenities. If anyone is considering staying in a dorm, they're extremely fun experience!

To interject, a park usually rethemes an area after they add a new coaster to keep people in that area of the park. Carowinds and Canada's Wonderland are doing a good job bringing some theming to areas that haven't seen much of anything. You could argue KI did this when they built Banshee- they brought back The Bat to add to the spookiness, they added a new seating area, and they repainted Delirium. The only thing I wish they did more of was repaint Drop Tower and rename Invertigo the Demon- but other than that, they did a good job trying to get rid of the Paramount vibe.

I excluded clones and coasters from minor parks.

Steel Vengance plaza is insanely packed, especially when the train gates are down and everyone's like cattle in a pen.

@BeastForever I'd say Mack before Premier Rides. Cedar Fair loves working with the same manufacturers throughout their parks so if Copperhead Strike is a success, I'm sure we'll see a Mack quiet frequently in the coming years.

It baffles me the amount of attendance Kings Island gets every year in relation to other seasonal parks in the continent even though we don't truly have our own resort. When I interned for Cedar Point's campground this summer, you wouldn't believe the number of repeat customers that continued to stay at the resort simply because they accommodated Rvs. I strongly believe that if KI brought back their campground, more people would be willing to come and stay for a couple of days. Just a thought.

There was never really a lot of foot traffic in that part of the park anyway so it might just look cramped at first. I think its better than having the area look so desolate.

I'm no legal expert but I still can't understand how a lawsuit is just now being field. Wouldn't the Fair Board see the plans for the ride before its even announced so they could approve it?

If you look at the plans that @IndyGuy4KI provided, it looks like the old DA path will still lead under The Racer. This might just be for Field of Screams and not for a new ride entrance because it still crosses a maintenance road. Still interesting to look at. https://KICentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/KMAA-Plans.pdf

I like how there's going to be billboards along the route like at Cedar Point. I wonder if they're going to be nostalgic posters, easter eggs, or clues to a bigger attraction to come soon.

The location is less than suberb, I remember looking at old posters and advertisements boasting about their closeness to Washington D.C. which seemed like a stretch considering KD is 85 miles away form DC. I agree that Kings Dominion has become the the victim of poor location and inferiority to other amusement parks. Their greatest competition, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, is only an hour and a half away and is closer to huge populated areas Norfolk- not to mention its close proximity to major tourist spots like Jamestown and Virginia Beach.

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These were also built in a time when gigas just started to make a comeback. I305 was the first giga to be built in 10 years and its only five feet shorter than MF so I don't think it mattered to most people. Leviathan was the first B&M giga built so I doubt Cedar Fair and B&M were trying to break any records on what many consider to be a prototype. I think the success of Leviathan gave B&M the greenlight to work with Cedar Fair on other giga projects allowing them to be more creative and more liberal with their design like what we saw with the debut of Fury 325.

@gforce1994 Location, location, location

I can't speak for other parks but I feel like our WindSeeker is one of the more reliable ones.

They didn't plan ahead and examine the potential hurdles that could have easily been avoided. This reminds me of when Discovery Kingdom added Vertical Velocity and completely went over the city's heighth regulations. They're trying to get on level with the big boys like KI, HW and other major parks but they're still on a level shared by smaller parks like Lake Compounce and so on. It seems like KK is trying to be an enthusiast park but still had a long way to go.

Seems like the whole 2019 addition was a disaster. They had poor marketing, poor concept art, and poor planning. This definable is a defining aspect of their businesses planning that certainly does't bode well for them.

@McSalsa I consider supports part of the ride experience. When I worked at Cedar Point over the summer, I could see the wood in the supports on Steel Vengeance sway in response to the train going throughout certain parts of the ride. Compare that to steel supports on full steel coasters where there is much less swaying. I'm no expert, but I believe that if the supports of the Voyage were magically altered to be wood instead of steel, you'd get a completely different, more traditional, wooden coaster experience. My two cents.

To my understanding, each giga is an evolution of the last- Fury essentially improved on the Leviathan design so I have no doubt that a KI giga would be an improvement of Fury 325. In terms of what they could do, I really want to see a 90 degree drop- Fury 325 is 81 degrees so I don't see how hard it is to increase the vertical angle to 90- then again I'm not an engineer.

I like how parks are constantly trying to improve guest's experience within the park. The entrance looks extremely inviting and gives off a Cedar Fair feel as they have been adding front gate coasters to their parks in the more recent years.

@kingsislandaddict I really love the light package you included in the concept and would make the park truly glow at night.

With Coney Mall getting the Antiques in 2019 and the B&M project in 2020, I suspect the foot traffic will stay in that section of the park. I have no idea if the park is finally going to brand X-Base as its own thing or if it'll stay a subsection of CM.