SonofBaconator

Yes, it’s an industry wide thing at the moment. If everything opened on time with exception to us, I’d understand the criticisms. However, like I said earlier, this seems to be an industry wide issue this year.

I love when our park gets something new and people find things to complain about

What exactly would be a missed opportunity?

I don’t know the answer to this question but I do think some slides should be retired. I posted this on another thread but I think Pinapple Pipeline and Tropical Twister should be removed or at the very least relocated. They could allocate the lifeguards to other water attractions and use that area to redo the train station so people aren’t being funneled through the way they currently are.

The main difference is- the royal fountains can be viewed from all around International Street; the same can somewhat be said for the pond in Adventure Port. The old Beast water feature could only really be seen by people who are waiting in line for the ride. That’s a lot of money spent on mosquito control, plumbing, electricity, and etc that could be allocated elsewhere.

I always thought Fastlane was a genius concept because it’s almost pure profit with the only reoccurring expenses being the physical printing of the tickets. If someone wants to spend money to avoid waiting, why stop them?

There’s also a gradient along that stretch of track. I’m not sure where it exactly levels out but I know they open the throttle up when they get towards Mystic Timbers’ turnaround where the back of the barn is. I propose relocating/removing Pineapple Pipeline and Tropical Twister: This would free up space for passengers where an actual shade structure could be built, all while keeping the station closer to the waterpark entrance.

Each owner has contributed a coaster to the kids area of the park except for Cedar Fair. Do you think we’ll see a new kids/family coaster come to Planet Snoopy and if so what kind? I don’t think it’ll happen unless they demolish Peanuts Playhouse and utilize that whole space but even I’m not sure they’d want to have something built right next to Picnic Grove where they host a lot of events. Thoughts? (I said 4th/5th because some people consider Surf Dog a coaster while others do not)

@Tr0y I don’t think the criticism is necessary. Overall I think people prefer “less speedy” rides. From lift hill to hitting the break run, Diamondback gives about 20 seconds of more ride time vs Orion: Orion is a great ride and I’m happy we have it. Many enthusiasts consider Diamondback to be one of the best if not the best hyper coasters of all time so it doesn’t surprise me that people make that their preferred coaster.

I had time to think about this. I’d try to invest into renovation the golf course across I-71 to with the intent to host a pga tournament of some kind. There’s a tournament currently in being played in Columbus so having one in the neighboring region shouldn’t be out of the question.

If you read the article, they state: They don’t say this til the end of the article so it’s a blatant attempt to mislead readers. Using the term “brainless” would’ve been more appropriate. I’ve heard parents say “where’s your head?” when disciplining their children but I’ve never heard the term “headless.”

Here are some of mine: Son of Beast- while impressive in stats, the ride was problematic for a number of reasons and not the best ride to re-market to guests from a PR standpoint. Demolishing Timberwolf- concert venues are ways for parks to make extra money…rip them out and they lose that potential revenue. Leaving them to just sit is far better than outright demolishing them because once they’re gone, it’ll be very hard to bring them back. Getting rid of Backlot- even though it might not look pretty, the ride is popular with families. If you rip it out, you lose another family ride (unless of course you immediately replace it with something similar but what’s the point in that?) Camp Snoopy- I myself have been a proponent of an overhaul to Planet Snoopy but now I’m not too sure it’ll happen on the scale I once thought. I don’t think a retheme would generate a big ROI. Maybe we’ll see something like we did in 2015 where we got a few rides but I don’t think we’ll see a big rebrand. I could be wrong. A hotel- we’re a regional park first and foremost. If Cedar Fair wanted a hotel, they would have built one for us by now. KI benefits off of local hotels because not only do they get revenue from their guests who come to the park, but they don’t have to pay the hotel staff or pay to keep the buildings operating.

I reported their article on Facebook. I typically could care less about attention seeking bloggers but they’re blatantly using incorrect words to generate more views on their website and social media pages which drives me nuts. CP, or any park for that matter, doesn’t need any potential PR issues from misleading articles.

I think they’re over complicating “brainless” “stupid” “foolish” “dumb.” I don’t know where the writer “left their head” considering how bad that article was. I’ve seen ride ops at KI have to climb lift hills at every now and then- not really something you write an article about.

I feel personally attacked

What are some things KI fans beat a dead horse about?

The waterpark closes at 7 so really there’s no reason to keep the train open past 8. When they used to stay open later, there would only be a few people riding it. I’m sure they’d rather have those conductors staffed somewhere else for the remaining 2 hours that the park is open.

I initially thought that not having a media day for Adventure Port was the wrong move but the more I thought of it, the more I figured it was the right thing to do. If things aren’t completed by opening day, it’s probably best not to have any dates set and opt for soft opens.

Something that I think could/should be a project is repurposing haunt buildings. Worlds of Fun debuted an indoor exhibit that showcases the park’s history. We have so many buildings that sit unused for the majority of the year, surely a building like Killmart could be repurposed as a museum. In fact, I think there are a few creative avenues that could be explored as additional attractions that could be accessed via fast line wristband. Two ideas come to mind: Escape rooms Ada accessible fun house So if you make one building a permanent museum and follow the Fast Lane upsell idea, you could sell more fast lanes as it encompasses more than just rides.

Everything you listed is plausible and has enough logic to back them up. However, with that said, I’m not entirely sure Cedar Fair is the type of chain that would physically resurrect an old IP that has seen controversy. Son of Beast sent 26 people to the hospital and was SBNO for 3 years after another person reported experiencing pain a few years later. Using the ride in posters and Easter eggs is one thing but it’s different to reuse the theme on an actual ride. Take Top Thrill Dragster which suffered a similar fate. It’s been rumored and implied that the ride will undergo a rebrand, abandoning the dragster theme altogether. Could we see a 200ft tall wooden coaster return? Anything is possible with how much technology and safety has improved. Heck Son of Beast isn’t really gone if you account for the track sitting in and outside of the station. Nevertheless, if we were to get a massive 200ft wooden or hybrid coaster, I don’t think it would be called “Son of Beast.” Maybe marketing could get creative and call it “Abomination”, “Iron Son” or something more subtle but I think the SOB brand is history.

Something I’d like to get people’s opinion on: Diamondback’s grass never seems to get too long as it’s regularly cut. Would it look “junky” if they let the grass grow and let nature reclaim part of the park? Normally I’d think overgrown grass would look bad but considering Rivertown is in the backwoods area of the park, would it look more natural?

At least the ad has an old timey look to it that makes it blend in more with the area.

I might not be as well educated when it comes to flat rides and their respective manufacturers, but does the average park goer really care where we get our rides from? Is dad going to be watching the ride from the pathway with his son going “you know these are Zamperla models, they must’ve been wanting to save money.” I get people have their preferences, but at the end of the day it’s not going to stop people from riding.

I often felt bad for Dorney Park… they’re in a market where they have to compete with the likes of Hershey and Great Adventure. It’s impossible to invest anything without the fear of being outdone. Hopefully this addition will keep Dorney competitive on some level but with how popular dives are, Hershey and or Great Adventure could follow up with their own versions.

It’s funny to look at old threads that have since came true