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@kimv1972 do you know when they officially did away with the actors/actresses? Also what of the props? I saw some props like a horse and carriage in some videos from the early 90s but I grew up with the remnants of the old western town in the late 90s.

Even if the concept layout shown wasn't truly accurate, it would've still been interesting to see how this coaster would've changed the landscape of Rivertown and the park as a whole. Would we have gotten a hyper? More than likely yes but put in a different spot- either further back in Rivertown or somewhere else. Would we have gotten Mystic Timbers? I would have to say no. I think if it was built it would've eventually been given the Iron Horse treatment. With that being said I'm kinda happy this never happened

I agree! It'll bring the camper market back to KI which will definatly bring in more guests. Having a luxury rv site near your park is a win-win because you don't have to pay to operate it but you're still able to get their guests to come to your park. It might also become more of a destination location for people across the country. I would talk to guests who stayed at CP's campground and the majority of them said they'd be more willing to go to KI and stay a few days if there was a higher quality rv park near the park.

It might've also helped it tackle the grade a little bit better with a full train. There's been a few instances even recently where the train couldn't make it up the grade and had to reverse and start over to rebuild momentum. Weather conditions can be huge factor in this. Fun fact, the Walt Disney Railroad has a 2% grade which was the maximum permitted grade allowed on the American Transcontinental Railroad. 2% isn't a lot for us as humans but for a multi ton locomotive hauling tons of weight behind it, its a struggle.

The T-bar is one of my personal favorite restrains second to B&M clamshells because of the openness. I don't know of a lot of cases where switching to OTSRs would be a benefit, typically going from OTSRs to lapbars are a more welcomed change.

If you follow the amusement park industry you can usually have a good guess as to what parks are going to get certain coasters. For example you're a Six Flags fan you know your park is probably gonna get a freespin, rmc conversion, etc. Though on occasion there have been coasters that have completely come out of left field. Here's some of mine: Wonder Mountain's Guardian Cobra's Curse West Coast Racers These are by no means bad rides, but I don't think they were what people had in mind prior to the coasters being reviled.

@DiamondBeast I wouldn't mind their flats, its their coasters I'm hesitant on. There are people who think that Cedar Fair will work with Intamin again and I don't think it's going to be for a while. I think they're more than content with seeing how newer Intamins like Pantheon, Hagrid and others do at other US based parks. I think we'll see something from Mack, B&M, Gerstlauer, or even S&S before Intamin is brought up. Its just too soon in my opinion.

If Millenium Force gets OTSRs I'll be super upset. I love the T-bar and how open you feel

I think he was referring to Racer being retracked

They did a lot of work on the blue side and last season it ran better than it had in years in my opinion. One day I rode both sides to get a good comparrison and you could really feel the difference. I think the red side got work done as well this paat offseason.

I mean this year is Millennium Force's 20th anniversary, maybe Tony is sharing some never before seen concept art, blueprints, and renderings. There's some speculating it'll run backwards for some reason

If BLSC ever bites the dust in the future, I'd love to see us get a Mack spinner like but more family oriented, maybe something like this or Time Traveler with no inversions.

So far throughout Cedar Fair's ownership they blessed us with 5 coasters which is more than the other Paramount parks. No addition was bad in my opinion but which coaster stands out as their best? I'm looking for personal preference but also an open mind. I included Firehawk because it was a new coaster install for KI and we theoretically could've gotten any other coaster from Geauga Lake. I chose Diamondback for a number of reasons- It put KI back on the map, it still holds up today as one of the best hypers ever built, it dominates the skyline, has a unique splashdown, and stood as a fan favorite for years. Firehawk, Banshee, Mystic Timbers, and Orion were awesome additions but I believe Diamondback was overall the most influential.

Maverick at CP has 6 trains, but with their size, dispatches allowing two trains in a station at a time its almost equivalent to 3 train operations if you think about it. Also something Maverick, Fury, and Leviathan have in common is the pre break run between the stations and the lift hill which can help avoid stacking as well as the longer final breaks

I prefer 2 train ops on Flight of Fear for one reason- the ride is indoors. I don't mind if there's a longer line when I know I'm going to be inside in a cool building vs standing out in the sun or possibly the rain. The show features like the lights, the tvs, the little easter eggs, and the overall scenery make the wait worth it. Honestly, I'd rather wait 15 minutes vs having a walk on just so I can appreciate the theming.

Personally, I don't think breaking records is the goal anymore. I'd like to think that they're focusing more on providing a thrilling experience.

It was one of the original locomotives on the CP&LERR. It bore the #3 and was called "Albert". I can't recall when it retired but it was arguably the longest engine on the roster with the 2-6-0 wheel arrangement.

I've always heard it was the less popular of the 3 they installed to between '08-'10. It doesn't look as appealing to be because you have those 3 trim hills then that weird double helix after the MCBR but then again I've never ridden it to get the full experience. I still think Diamondback is one of the best hypers ever built because of where they placed the MCBR. To me, a break run can kill the experience but I don't feel that way on Diamondback. The MCBR is high enough to where it doesn't kill the momentum and the rest of the ride delivers good airtime and an awesome helix before hitting the splashdown. I'm not a fan of hypers that have that high 90 degree turn like what your see on Intimidator, Mako, and Nitro.

Be lucky we're not Canada's Wonderland. Behemoth has trim brakes from the hammerhead turn all the way to the MCBR

I don't know if Cedar Fair would bless us with more than 8 inversions on a coaster but it would be nice if it ever happened. If we got at least 10 then we'd beat Steel Curtain's record and gain back a majority of the inversions we've lost these past few years

I think an S&S coaster like Steel Curtain would look nice. I'd want it to be more drawn out though and not as compact so it wouldn't look just like the Steel Curtain but still have about the same amount of inversions (maybe more).

That's what I was thinking. It got a repaint in 2012 and with speculation that its the next coaster to bite the dust down the road I don't see a need to touch it. Diamondback on the other hand needs its lift and drop supports repainted. I don't know if the park would repaint them yellow or just paint them an off-white to match the rest of the supports.

Its not accurate. When you're on Google Maps, Bing, or whatever you have to take a screen shot of the plot of land then screenshot the desired coaster from the same distance. The pictures above look like they were zoomed to take up space. There's no way Hangtime is that big. I took Dominator from KD and moved it to fill Vortex's space. I didn't zoom the coaster to fill the space but rather kept it its actual size and didn't try to fill the untouched land. It may look slightly off because of the angle of the coaster doesn't match up with the angle of the other rides. Not trying to sound narcissistic but the picture below is more accurate in terms of size. @TOPGUN1993 used to post really good swap pics if I recall.

I want this.