Tr0y

I don't have issues with any restraints at Kings Island. i agree with kat that The Racer is rougher than The Beast. Its like stapling a jackhammer to your back turned on while trying to sit down on concrete. I tolerate it (giving the fact its a wooden coaster. ) but The Racer could use some track work and a coat of paint.

Its hard accepting less, i just want the most for Kings Island.

I didn't mean full blown Disney I'm talking like something the crypt used to be

Cedar Fair doesn't have $100 million to blow on one park in a single season. 24 million for 2014 plus 6-7 million for 2015 equals 100 million.. Dang operating cost this 2015 attraction must be a intamin.

Any coaster that's not built by Intamin is a disappointment for Youngstud.. I on the other hand like all manufacturers it has nothing to deal with it being B&M. A Variety of coaster manufactures and coasters types in a park is great! each manufacture brings something different to the table. B&M offers great reliability, and smoothness.. They wanted to set Banshee at par with Son of Beast as a replacement when they didn't even bring Banshee up to Sob level. One record breaking coaster to replace a coaster that broke and held multiple records? If you pop all four tires do you only replace one of them? Now your all going to give me crap about ride experience matters and stuff.. i get that, and yes it matters but i don't see how being taller and having more loops would be negative at all. They could have spend the extra 3 million for a extra loop and 30ft of more height. and got more out of the coaster, especially for the amount of revenue you would make from people drawn in, it would pay for itself. And they could afford it, Cedar Point got a hefty 30 million dollar Gatekeeper and Canada's wonderland got a 28 million dollar leviathan.

KI also set the bar high for disappointment this year.

With Matt ouimet's background with Disney its a possibility we could see winterfest make a comeback in a couple of years. As long as people want it, and there is money to be made it will happen. With Cedar Fairs recent record breaking profits it wouldn't suprise me if they give winterfest a try.

The 2015 coaster could be the dark ride, Matt Ouimet was talking about, it won't be a very expensive coaster I'd day 6-7 million possibly using the old crypt building i could see a small coaster fit. It could end up being the coaster Matt ouimet was talking about the whole family can enjoy... Maybe this will be the ride that gets Disney like theming.

they have 2 kids areas, behind top thrill dragster and to the left of wicket twister.

really? what explains all the criticism when the name was first to be used for what is now mantis? If we renamed meanstreak to spine buster do you think that more people will like it? If somebody dies on this coaster regardless if it was the rides fault or not there will be outcry because of the name.

i don't think so, its not dick kenzel anymore running Cedar Fairs. Matt Ouimet stated each park was its own brand, the things you see now at holiday world would probably be the same, except more capital being invested into the park, and great ideas from the other Cedar Fair parks transferring over.

Wait so you can see into the future?Witchcraft, burn it, burn it with fire. Don't have to look into the future, it would just explain why there is now a Banshee at Kings Island. Is everyone else just as confused with what seems to be Tr0y's logic as I am, or is it just me?Did you watch the video interview about Banshee in the construction thread that I had with Don? He stated that there would have been a major coaster coming to KI in 2014 regardless of SOB's fate. Wait Logic, that made me Crack up. and it seems as if everyone forgot what a Banshee is. a Banshee appears before death, the coaster itself is a b&m so therefor the next death for b&m will be on Banshee. Son of Beast fate was decided back in 2009 after the incident it went SBNO it was the state inspected it and deemed operating normally that day so why close it? Nothing personal against Don but i don't believe everything he says. he's the PR manager, he's going to tell you what they want you to hear.

Millenium force to KI the future is riding on it...

that's likely but with the amount of money Cedar Fair has been spending on canadas wonderland, ( Canada's wonderland has the highest revenue and attendance in the chain ) I'm curious if matt ouimet is using a system where the parks revenue equates to how much investment is spent for attractions. Cedar Point's Gatekeeper was 25-30 million seems like alot for one coaster but the last coaster built at Cedar Point since Gatekeeper was maverick in 2007.

Kings Island is a few pieces from putting Cedar Point in the backseat, they are neck and neck in terms of revenue and attendance.

Nope here is a picture from when i was there yesterday, it was sunny millennium force was a 15 minute wait.

it won't be able to, the giga coaster's line to the midway will be in the way.

The El toro is a very reliable coaster, it has been operating for 7 years and is just now having a significant mechanical problem, also you got to remember it was the first and only wooden to have a cable lift.. Once Banshee is built and a few years after when Kings Island prepares for its next coaster addition, not many will remember SOB at that point, it will just be another gravestone alongside The Bat, screaming demon, and king cobra...

Kings Island should remove flight deck and build a 215ft el toro in its place.

millenium force, TTD, Gatekeeper, Mantis, iron dragon, and raptor from what i seen later in the day ( about 6pm, 3 hours before close )had train cuts... I was in line for millenium force, and It was painful to watch red train, transfer onto the storage track... From all the times I've been to Kings Island and Cedar Point this year you can tell there is a difference in how things are done.

Running one train reminds me how Cedar Point cut the third train for millennium force and Gatekeeper the other day, is like they want the lines to be an hour wait... My thought was because they are trying to keep in the park longer which is smart business thinking but screwed up if your the one standing in line.

If that were to happen i bet that Cedar Fair will end up buying the park and add a flag over i in holiday, with the addition of a b&m coaster being built that same year.

I don't see why so many people have to be a wussies about wooden coasters, i rode the voyage backseat and i thought it was a awesome ride, its in my top 5 coasters.. It would take holiday world 1 offseason, some capital , and a phonecall to have this fixed.. Call intamin for prefab track or get Rocky Mountain construction for toppled track or iron horse replacement.. There just beating around the bush.

Holiday world will never be the same without Will Koch.

uncomfortable ride experience on a B&M coaster!?? What planet are you from?