The Interpreter Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 To debate that point to me is mute. I capitalize things because it is proper English and if I don't it's an honest typo. I have no horse in this race; I've never been to the KK park, I don't work for them, I don't claim any level of ownership to the KIC site. I am a frequent visitor, lurker, and reader... my only comment is be careful what you post if you, in fact, do have have first hand experience. Proper English? You mean moot--which means hypothetical, not mute, which means silent. Oh, the irony that post have have! 5 Quote
jsus Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Maybe the point is just shy, so it doesn't talk a lot. Who are you to judge? 5 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 But the subject was a gerund, to debate. Not the point. Sigh. 2 Quote
Outdoor Man Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Tabbed under the 'Honest Mistake' and part joke clause to back a point. Dry humor doesn't translate well on a computer screen. 1 Quote
jsus Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 It translates better with one of these: In real life, that translates to "creepy". 3 Quote
silver2005 Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Have there been any reports of the new trains being on site yet? Pictures, anything? I've been to several coaster fan sites as well as anything else KK related and there is absolutely nothing yet concerning the whereabouts of T3's trains. I seem to recall Vekoma having quite a hard time installing new trains on Goliath at SFNE... 2 Quote
FutureThrills Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Speaking of translations, If Ed Hart could only translate guest complaints, criticisms, and meaningful suggestions. Kentucky Kingdom may be a better place. 3 Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Have there been any reports of the new trains being on site yet? Pictures, anything? I've been to several coaster fan sites as well as anything else KK related and there is absolutely nothing yet concerning the whereabouts of T3's trains. I seem to recall Vekoma having quite a hard time installing new trains on Goliath at SFNE... Those new trains were from Premier, as I understand it. Still doesn't explain why Kentucky Kingdom's keeping so quiet about T3. 1 Quote
RollerNut Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Cash Flow..... Sweet Cash Flow..... I want some! 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 It's better coming in than going out... 4 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I just saw a KK commercial on the local CBS affiliate. It was advertising the season pass for $59.95 at Lexington area Kroger stores. It was actually a pretty decent commercial, piqued my interest away from online bill paying. They featured T3, but it was obviously old footage because the coaster was not painted red. I'm glad to see some advertising somewhere beside social media. 3 Quote
jcgoble3 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I just saw a KK commercial on the local CBS affiliate. "Local" referring to what market? Louisville or somewhere else? 2 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I just saw a KK commercial on the local CBS affiliate. "Local" referring to what market? Louisville or somewhere else? Sorry, it was the Lexington market. Interesting in that, as far as I know, Louisville area Kroger stores sell the season pass for $79.95. 4 Quote
rhyano Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I personally think the Kingdom will be somewhat popular in the end, it just takes time and of course the money. Quote
Hendrick Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I personally think the Kingdom will be somewhat popular in the end, it just takes time and of course the money. 1-2 million a year? 4 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 1.5 million to 2. I think Ed Hart THOUGHT this was the year he was going to sell the park. I don't see that happening now. 2 Quote
RailRider Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 With as bad as cash flow appears to be they may be lucky to make it through the season. Don't worry though Hart will be sure to lay blame on the lack of support and excitement from locals and negative online opinions. He has no fault in the matter. 6 Quote
rhyano Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 no, it just took him a really long time to hit 1 million, its going to take some time, i have heard good things from people saying how they love the park and how they hope it doesn't close, but speaking of Kentucky Kingdom, has anyone heard news on the lawsuit lately? Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 You probably won't. I'd bet money it was quietly settled out of court after Mr. Hart and his attorney friend Mr. Glasscock both apparently defamed the plaintiffs right after saying they don't comment on pending litigation. 6 Quote
PhantomTheater Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I personally think the Kingdom will be somewhat popular in the end, it just takes time and of course the money. Time is a luxury Ed Hart doesn't have. 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 And he got to a million last time by putting in a huge B&M stand-up coaster, something the current level of planned investment doesn't contemplate. Meanwhile, over in Indiana... 5 Quote
rhyano Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 All I am saying is this park could be something, a smaller regional theme park, not like Kings Island where the place is huge. 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 The entire amusement industry had a chance to save Kentucky Kingdom. The Commonwealth put out a request for proposals. It got no responsive proposals. None. It got only one response at all. From Hart & Co. Only after intense negotiations was a deal reached. This park has massive government subsidies. It unfairly competes with Holiday World, Beech Bend, Kings Island. Those parks are not creatures of their states. Ed Hart's main business partner is a high muckety-muck in the Democrat Party. In fact, he once ran against Mitch McConnell. And lost. The sitting Governor is a Democrat. A Louisville councilman supported opening the park to keep kids from breaking into cars. Sometimes I think this park is more of a political stunt than a true business effort. I stated those views here. I go opening day. Denied entry and assisted out of the park by two burley security guards. Which the park now denies. Now, the main so-called new attraction for 2015 will apparently sit idle until after Memorial Day. 9 Quote
IBEW_Sparky Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 Have there been any reports of the new trains being on site yet? Pictures, anything? I've been to several coaster fan sites as well as anything else KK related and there is absolutely nothing yet concerning the whereabouts of T3's trains. I seem to recall Vekoma having quite a hard time installing new trains on Goliath at SFNE... Have you ever gone to an exotic car dealership and looked at a new Ferrari? When you left, did you go on Facebook or fan sites saying you did so? Why not? Its better to not talk about something, you cannot afford to own. 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 There has been a distinct lack of ANY media attention to the park since the post-opening weekend stories (Hundreds Attend Preview Weekend). I can only suspect this is a calculated strategy by the Park's crack PR department. 4 Quote
silver2005 Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 Have there been any reports of the new trains being on site yet? Pictures, anything? I've been to several coaster fan sites as well as anything else KK related and there is absolutely nothing yet concerning the whereabouts of T3's trains. I seem to recall Vekoma having quite a hard time installing new trains on Goliath at SFNE... Have you ever gone to an exotic car dealership and looked at a new Ferrari? When you left, did you go on Facebook or fan sites saying you did so? Why not? Its better to not talk about something, you cannot afford to own. Well I imagine they have some sort of plan. They wouldn't be boasting of a May 30th opening of T3 if ^that is the case. I suspect it will be concerning the future of Twisted Twins though. 1 Quote
shark6495 Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 Does Beach Bend or Kentucky Spash get the same state benefits that KK does? If not, how is that remotely fair? 2 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 They do not. They are eligible to apply for SOME of the benefits Hart & Co. get, but cannot, for example, use state property as collateral for loans. Nor do they lease park land from the state for far less than market value. 3 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 If Hart put the kind of effort, investment and dedication into Kentucky Kingdom that the Joneses have put into Beech Bend the past 10 years, the park would be thriving. (Note that the Joneses have owned the park since the mid to late 80s, but much of the major investment has come in the past 10 years - particularly Kentucky Rumbler, which put the park on the map for many a coaster enthusiast). 5 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Cited without comment: Kentucky Kingdom Prepares For The Largest Season Yet: http://behindthethrills.com/2015/05/kentucky-kingdom-prepares-for-the-largest-season-yet/ 2 Quote
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