HTCO Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 That arm will not come loose. Something tells me that they can not say that to an insurance company. You always prepare for something like that with a backup. It wont happen it does. That ride in China where the car came off and went flying...... Also, do you think this ride will be the full 3 minutes. I have watched the CW version testing and it was a 2 min video and I do agree it might be a little more in time but not much. This will have a very long slow line since it is single threaded. So 3 min ride, 1 minute load, 1 min unload...... not sure aboui that. If you want to compare, its equal to if Diamondback had one train running all the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Just curious about the 4th WindSeeker at Knotts. We have heard a lot about the other 3 but how iis that one doing? It just went vertical recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Just curious about the 4th WindSeeker at Knotts. We have heard a lot about the other 3 but how iis that one doing? The last I heard it's started vertical construction and yes it's purple. Edit: Jackson you beat me too it. Here's a pic provided from Knott's Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 That arm will not come loose. Something tells me that they can not say that to an insurance company. You always prepare for something like that with a backup. It wont happen it does. That ride in China where the car came off and went flying...... Also, do you think this ride will be the full 3 minutes. I have watched the CW version testing and it was a 2 min video and I do agree it might be a little more in time but not much. This will have a very long slow line since it is single threaded. So 3 min ride, 1 minute load, 1 min unload...... not sure aboui that. If you want to compare, its equal to if Diamondback had one train running all the time... Except that WindSeeker can take twice as many people per cycle than Diamondback. WindSeeker can take 64 people per cycle, Diamondback 32 per train. So essentially, it's like Diamondback with two trains running. I think that's what a lot of people overlook when considering WindSeeker's true capacity (as opposed to advertised capacity, which would require a load/unload time of zero) is that it can take more people per cycle than any other ride at KI except KI&MVRR. It won't be super-fast, but it won't be as slow as some people think, either. If you calculate an average unload/load time of 2 minutes per cycle, that equals 12 cycles per hour, which equals 768 riders per hour. If they move faster and can complete unloading and loading in one minute (which may not be realistic), that would be 960 riders per hour. All in all, even the 768 figure isn't too bad for a flat ride. Also, keep in mind that when I was there on the 13th, IIRC I saw numbers on each seat, suggesting that seats may be assigned in a similar fashion to Drop Tower or Delirium, which would speed up the loading process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 That arm will not come loose. Something tells me that they can not say that to an insurance company. You always prepare for something like that with a backup. It wont happen it does. That ride in China where the car came off and went flying...... Also, do you think this ride will be the full 3 minutes. I have watched the CW version testing and it was a 2 min video and I do agree it might be a little more in time but not much. This will have a very long slow line since it is single threaded. So 3 min ride, 1 minute load, 1 min unload...... not sure aboui that. If you want to compare, its equal to if Diamondback had one train running all the time... Why would it take a full minute to unload the ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-lo775 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why would it take a full minute to unload the ride? They're called the general public and they always find a way to make things take 3 times as long as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 That arm will not come loose. Something tells me that they can not say that to an insurance company. You always prepare for something like that with a backup. It wont happen it does. That ride in China where the car came off and went flying...... Also, do you think this ride will be the full 3 minutes. I have watched the CW version testing and it was a 2 min video and I do agree it might be a little more in time but not much. This will have a very long slow line since it is single threaded. So 3 min ride, 1 minute load, 1 min unload...... not sure aboui that. If you want to compare, its equal to if Diamondback had one train running all the time... Except that WindSeeker can take twice as many people per cycle than Diamondback. WindSeeker can take 64 people per cycle, Diamondback 32 per train. So essentially, it's like Diamondback with two trains running. I think that's what a lot of people overlook when considering WindSeeker's true capacity (as opposed to advertised capacity, which would require a load/unload time of zero) is that it can take more people per cycle than any other ride at KI except KI&MVRR. It won't be super-fast, but it won't be as slow as some people think, either. If you calculate an average unload/load time of 2 minutes per cycle, that equals 12 cycles per hour, which equals 768 riders per hour. If they move faster and can complete unloading and loading in one minute (which may not be realistic), that would be 960 riders per hour. All in all, even the 768 figure isn't too bad for a flat ride. Also, keep in mind that when I was there on the 13th, IIRC I saw numbers on each seat, suggesting that seats may be assigned in a similar fashion to Drop Tower or Delirium, which would speed up the loading process. Think of it as every time WindSeeker cycles, a Diamondback train leaves the station. The ride has been advertised to have a 3 minute cycle, roughly the same time it takes a Diamondback train to complete the ride. I don't know if seats will be assigned, many seats on roller coasters and flats have numbers but they aren't assigned. They number seats because the ride system will let the operators know if a restraint is unlocked/locked and whether or not there is an issue with a seat. I personally do not see that they would assign seats on WindSeeker like they do for Delirium and Drop Tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejenkins1 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I just saw pictures of the WindSeeker in Canada and they recently added dampers to the arms. Ideas are to keep it from excessive swaying. Any idea if those will be on any of the other ones? Do they have higher winds there and would CP not be one that would need it if it is an issue due to the location there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why are we comparing the ride timing of WindSeeker to Diamondback, when there is a similar ride in capacity sitting in Rivertown? TRTR was built with the idea of 12 cycles per hour, averaged 7(not because of downtime, but because companies just divide the ride time + 2-3 minutes and there is your cycle time,) and while it had a slightly higher capacity, you are looking at about the same on the timing side. To back this up, Flight Deck is supposed to have a capacity of over 1200/hr, however 800 is a good hour in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Oh yeah...I bet CP's WindSeeker will cycle riders faster 'cause it's gonna hold TWICE as many riders as KI's WindSeeker! I actually heard while in line for Delirium a couple of weeks ago that maXair in CP holds 75 riders versus Delirium's 50. Banging.... Head..... On.....Que..... Rail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagoda Gift Shop Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Do you think they will move the Dinosaurs Alive camera again? I kinda feel like we are looking at...well, nothing. Then again, I'm not really sure what we should be trying to see from an attraction like that. Personally, I preferred the close up WindSeeker cam. I thought there was a good possibility that you might see someone puking at some point this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisbeefan Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 These two videos are from Canada's Wonderland: EDIT: I tried to embed the videos but it wouldn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 These two videos are from Canada's Wonderland: EDIT: I tried to embed the videos but it wouldn't work. If you want to use the embed code from Youtube, go to the full reply box, click "Click to configure post options" and choose "HTML On - Auto Linebreak Mode" from the dropdown list. Alternately you can just paste the URL and the forum will automatically embed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I thought there was a good possibility that you might see someone puking at some point this summer. Nasty, not really something that I want to see to be honest. KI made a comment on Facebook yesterday saying that the weather is still to blame for the delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Wow I just watch the night one and the lighting on this ride looks well, simply amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisbeefan Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 If you want to use the embed code from Youtube, go to the full reply box, click "Click to configure post options" and choose "HTML On - Auto Linebreak Mode" from the dropdown list. Alternately you can just paste the URL and the forum will automatically embed it for you. Thanks, I will try that next time. I've had it work before using the 'Insert Media' button, but I obviously did something different this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 It has been unusually rainy still. But it sure doesn`t seem like there has been much visual progress so far, at least in terms of testing the ride yet. I know I was down at Coney last night trying to paint the rides office, and our progress was hampered by the weather. Its hard to paint in a room that has no windows and the power goes out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagoda Gift Shop Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Saw on the webcam today that they took off some of the WindSeeker seats and then re-attached them. They have water dummies loaded on the inside of each of the cars, but I have yet to see them do a cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterKrazy Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 For those who are interested, you may want to check out Screamscape for some photos of additional hardware on WindSeeker up at Canada's Wonderland. It looks like they may have another Bat on their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 The hydraulic parts added seem pretty obvious in hindsight... They help stabilize the individual arms. Not that I had thought of it beforehand, but I feel like the engineering company should have... With giant metallic poles instead of chains, there should be a way to make sure they don't blow forward or backward or anything. Otherwise that would have to be a very strong attachment from arm to carriage. I don't know. Hindsight is 20/20. Source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGatorHead 8904 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 These two videos are from Canada's Wonderland: EDIT: I tried to embed the videos but it wouldn't work. I just watched the WindSeeker at night video. Wow, there are some trippy lighting sequences on that thing! I love it! I can't wait to see it on KI's in person. Thanks for posting that, frisbeefan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagoda Gift Shop Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Unbelievable. From the dino webcam, it looks like they have been using an elevator lift all around WindSeeker today. It's possible they are installing these right now at KI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Seeing those lights from underneath on CW's is very cool Can't wait to see them at KI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 KI made a comment on Facebook yesterday saying that the weather is still to blame for the delay. Weather..... Stabilizers.......Tomato.....Potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standbyme Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Wow I just watch the night one and the lighting on this ride looks well, simply amazing! Yes they are! Its hard to paint in a room that has no windows and the power goes out... I would have thought that would make it easier... Robbie: "You see anywhere I missed?" Assistant: "No...it looks good to me". Time to go home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Looks like Canada's Wonderland WindSeeker is open! CW Facebook Canada's WonderlandThe wait is over. WindSeeker is open! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejenkins1 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 On the webcam at 8:45 and there is a fire in the woods behind FOF and maintenance bldg. Putting up a lot of black smoke and not a very small fire. Anyone heard what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaterboy22101 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 When I was walking out of work, I didn't notice it, but as I was driving out, that's when I first noticed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFreak45 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Holy cow that was a big fire! I imagine they accidently did it while working on DA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 That is probably where they are putting in the new Dino Legs stand and are firing up the outside BBQ pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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