Tr0y Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 SKYRUSH is the closest thing to a mega lite in the US. Skyrush is awsome and a engineering marvel on a 4 abreast train being able to navigate tight radii. skyrush seats are staggered v formation like Diamondback, wouldn't that technically make it 2 rows of seats for one train? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Trains are still the same width as a 4 a breast b&m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'm with YoungStud... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyk Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 skyrush is amazing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 That looks rather comfortable....what were the complaints about the restraints earlier this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 The restraints pushed down into your thighs. If Intamins had floater air they could use a t-bar no seatbelt, but their rides have so much ejector air they have to make up for operator error and desiign a restraint that works on a wider range of people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I was just about to ask the same question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 They aren't making up for operator error...They're making a restraint that is safe according to ASTM standards.. I don't think the company makes stuff like that because the parks have operator errors...if that was the case they wouldn't sell them to the same parks with the same operator errors 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxedoman52 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 When I rode Gatekeeper this summer (not once but 9 times), The OTSR were not a bother at all. Just be thankful that the restraints aren't going to be like Vortex's restraints or FoF's restraints from 96'-01'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 All you have to do to alleviate any issues on GK with the restraints is ride it like you are supposed to. The seats are inclined back a bit so keep your back on the backrest and NOT lean forward (I know that is hard to do because I lean forward on almost every roller coaster I ride). If you sit back in seat the restraints will restrain your chest and not your collarbones. Try it next time you ride GK and let us know how it went! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I for one cannot stand Gatekeeper or Wild Eagle's restraint system, by the end of the ride I was miserable with pain, not to say I didn't enjoy the ride though. I am sure B&M will eventually figure out a way to prevent these restraints from absolutely killing your collar bone and lats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Cedar Point is currently operating Gatekeeper with modified restraints. I do not have first-hand experience, but from what I have heard and read there is no longer an issue. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Ill have to agree with the collar bone problem, I may have sat in the seat the wrong way like joncars05 said, but it was awful. I had red marks from them afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 They aren't making up for operator error...They're making a restraint that is safe according to ASTM standards.. I don't think the company makes stuff like that because the parks have operator errors...if that was the case they wouldn't sell them to the same parks with the same operator errors Operator error meaning allowinv someone to ride with insane unusual body proportions, riders with no legs, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieninja Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Operator error wasn't why someone on The Beast this summer stapled my legs down so tight my right leg went numb. That was the most uncomfortable ride I ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Operator error wasn't why someone on The Beast this summer stapled my legs down so tight my right leg went numb. That was the most uncomfortable ride I ever had. Really? If it wasn't operator error, either one or both of the following applies: * The operator was SUPPOSED to staple you like that. * it wasn't an error, it was on purpose. I think you meant to say it WAS operator error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 This is what I picture when I read this topic 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieninja Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Really? If it wasn't operator error, either one or both of the following applies: * The operator was SUPPOSED to staple you like that. * it wasn't an error, it was on purpose. I think you meant to say it WAS operator error. So is that saying when someone pushes their weight into my lap bar, it is unintentional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 It's not what they are supposed to be doing. So, as viewed from a standard operating procedure perspective, it is indeed operator error. It certainly is not the ride manufacturer's or designer's fault. An error can certainly be intentional. Not just negligence, it can be willful and intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Munson Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Will there be a " fat guy" row. My last trip to Cedar Point was a bummer stupid fat thighs. Couldn't ride millenium or dragster. Or wicked twisted. Stupid beer gut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantisMan Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 A healthy diet and exercise. Has advantages besides the obvious health reasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Will there be a " fat guy" row. My last trip to Cedar Point was a bummer stupid fat thighs. Couldn't ride millenium or dragster. Or wicked twisted. Stupid beer gutIt was stated at the press release row four will have larger seats. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I don't like OSTRs occasionally, a pain to my shoulders they can bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Munson Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Rode Gatekeeper five times in 20 minutes yesterday...no pain in the restraint, just got done with the ride and wanted something else... I don't see where this pain and everything comes from... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainard Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Rode Gatekeeper five times in 20 minutes yesterday...no pain in the restraint, just got done with the ride and wanted something else... I don't see where this pain and everything comes from... Glad I'm not the only one. I actually found the vests to be more comfortable than the majority of OSR's that do not use them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Rode Gatekeeper five times in 20 minutes yesterday...no pain in the restraint, just got done with the ride and wanted something else... I don't see where this pain and everything comes from... The vests have been changed and the issue has been supposedly resolved. It's good to hear that there are no issues any longer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yup, I went last week and reported it a day before Tony posted... I honestly didn't have any problems before the fix, the only thing I like is now there is freedom of movement, which to me means movement=airtime. I floated alot through a few of those turns. I love Gatekeeper, but if I had to choose a ride to marathon...I'm going Maggie or Maverick 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XjoshhyX Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think Gatekeepers problems are solely based on size differences of patrons, which is obvious. I like the idea of the restraints, but personally I had an issue with them hurting my collar bone. With that being said, I trust that B&M is woking on the issue before Banshee's cars ship. As for the "fat row", I had a pretty hard time getting on Wicked Twister at CP, yet I fit comfortably on every ride other than it at the park. I am a huskier guy, 5'11 235lbs. I know its the seat design/train design, but at the same time, the placement of the buckle on that ride is terrible. I got my 2 clicks comfortably, but couldn't get the buckle, so I ended up stapling myself. Just had to throw this in since it was discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The restraints pushed down into your thighs. If Intamins had floater air they could use a t-bar no seatbelt, but their rides have so much ejector air they have to make up for operator error and desiign a restraint that works on a wider range of people. I really don't want to get into another Intamin discussion, but which Intamins have "so much ejector air?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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