benny1388 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Today I learned I've not been nice and I've been a grumpy sour puss. Oh well, been called worse by people who actually call me a friend. You think the local news couldn't get hold of these plans and post them? They won't, but you better believe they could! The fact that these plans are apparently being shared among "preferred" customers of this site would be a violation in itself if it was illegal. It is not. Someone post what Mason has, already...because this is getting ridonkulous. Yes, they most assuredly can get them. Share them, freely? I am no lawyer, but I believe they could with no legal repercussion. Key word: legal. There's a lot more in play than legality when it comes to how one company (don't be fooled, the press/media are companies) treats another company. Also, it's not just the relationship between the local new company and the park. The news company realizes this is not worth their time. It's not a ratings boost in any way. Only a small portion of their viewers would give more than 2 craps about it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Oldschool, didn't you post another layout pic earlier, with the ride orientation flipped 180°? Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk tee hee heeRemember that layout could very well be fake. As many have said, it looks a lot like Prowler. Seems very easily leaked in the drawings. The plans only specify for that very small section. So the rest of the layout could be a decoy. They are only required to have the section noted for work to be correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just because you can doesn't mean you should. we would get info into our station all of the time about upcoming events or such that we could share but if we did we would lose that contact forever. Like Benny said this little amusement park addition means nothing in the news cycle. Burning a contact and access for something like this would be career suicide. Let's look at the news side of the options: Go to Mason get blue prints, find an expert that can read them, go to the park get some no comment answers from Don, air the piece and get maybe a 30 second story out of it, while also not getting invited to future media days, losing an anonymous source for info when things go bad, and probably upsetting the bosses for this reckless journalism. All to get maybe a few extra clicks or eyeballs. Or... Wait till media day/announcement day, get invited, get high resolution pictures and mock ups, get interview time with Don, being invited to media preview, ride the new ride, get on ride footage, get a good few days of stories, and see more overall clicks as you got multiple stories out of it. See about the new water park slide and Local 12. KIC has been invited to many things. If some sensitive info is spilled here on purpose that relationship can dry up to the detriment of all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 ^That and it must be a slow news day if news outlets are resorting to that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenban Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 tee hee heeRemember that layout could very well be fake. As many have said, it looks a lot like Prowler. Seems very easily leaked in the drawings. I mm the plans only specify for that very small section. So the rest of the layout could be a decoy, and is done on many other things. They are only required to have the section noted at correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wanted to say thank you for the personal message with the information. I responded to your message. But in short I believe the coordinates are not correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsIsland1972 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I believe that the Train House is on a platform and the Miami Valley Rail Road will go under. Entrance will be where the old funnel cake was. It'll have the feel of Banshee. The Coaster Turnaround will stay within the Train Tracks. I am having fun despite "others" saying I have it all wrong. It's who I am, I think I am closer to right than wrong. I tried to give you another perspective. If the tracks are falling on something else, this is just my perspective from what I can see with the trees being full of leaves and can be adjusted later. NEWKIPROJECT2017Revamped by KingsIsland1972, on Flickr 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hope they just don't become Cedar Point south #save the log flume 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsIsland1972 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hope they just don't become Cedar Point south #save the log flume If you are talking about Race For Your Life Charlie Brown, I believe it is safe. There is plenty of room for everything. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I've seen more than one layout taking this right over top of significant portions of WWC. This one takes the track on top of the big round-table? Not saying it isn't possible, but something just doesn't seem right. That's a huge span to deal with via wood construction. Not to mention he has the first lift/drop over the train station. I'm fairly certain the scale is off as well. Not sure if its an intentional diversion or a misreading of something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AintNutinElse2Do Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It would be a long span for wooden construction unless... Credit to L.A. Times via Google image search. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikkinixx99 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Is that a picture of Goliath? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 See also Wildfire in Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Gal Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It has already been determined it's a rocky Mountain coaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikkinixx99 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 The pov for Wildfire is amazing!! The layout and elements in that ride blows me away!! Wish it was in the states somewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny1388 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It has already been determined it's a rocky Mountain coaster. By some, sure. Some of the hints/clues may imply that, sure. Perhaps I've missed it in this thread somewhere (gotta work, eat and sleep, after all), but have we seen anything that is clear-cut evidence that it's RMC? Footings and their design are indicators, but they're not hard evidence. If companies didn't evolve their designs over time...well, I like the Model T for what it is/was, but I'm glad designs have evolved. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 The pov for Wildfire is amazing!! The layout and elements in that ride blows me away!! Wish it was in the states somewhere It is! Just not all in one ride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien6221 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I find it hard to believe that a traditional small wooden coaster would sell lots of season passes.It wouldn't sell YOU a pass, apparently, but as long as a coaster looks fun and interesting enough to ride, people will come. The same amount of people that would come for an RMC would come for a GCI, because they don't care about the manufacturer.So what your saying is if Joe blow is watching the news and they show a traditional wooden coaster that will make him take his family to the park? I believe if Joe blow is watching the news and sees a hybrid doing flips, "top gun stalls", etc he will be more likely to take his family to the park.I agree that most of the GP would much rather have an RMC than a GCI, but the difference between the GP and enthusiasts is that enthusiasts know that both exist. Most of the GP does not know what an RMC is, especially if they do not live around one. Yes there is one at KK, but a lot of people around here have never been there. Heck, many don't even know KK is open again! What I'm trying to say is that, yes, they would enjoy an RMC more, but if they don't know that RMC exists, they would just as happily accept a GCI. To the GP, for the most part, anything new is good. Whether it be GCI or RMC, as Don said, "People will come" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I value your opinion.I understand what your saying but Joe blow has already seen a traditional wood coaster before but wold not have seen a wood coaster with inversions, top gun stalls, etc. A small coaster can work in a smaller market like KC, and valley fair cause the people don't have access or know of anything different. Here everyone knows about CP and the massive rides they get consistently. Once again.....CF, not CP. We are decoding for KI, which is by CF, not for CP, which is by CF.Sent from my N9130 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Wait, so the current leading theory is that it's an RMC? What's the evidence in favor of RMC? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I think the current prevailing theory is that it is probably GCI, with very strong wish-for-RMC overtones. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMaverick Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I thought someone said there were blue prints for the footers and the steel ties proved it was an RMC. Not exactly sure how or if that's true but I think it was a few pages back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Going back to the hype talk for a minute. If you hadn't gone to KI this season and you are not on here you wouldn't know that they were building a new ride at all. To be honest if it's a new ride that helps bridge the gap for our younger/shorter friends and park goers I'm all for it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Sigh (not aimed at anyone). Must.... consult ...the Orb, and absorb the wisdom thereof: 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I thought someone said there were blue prints for the footers and the steel ties proved it was an RMC. Not exactly sure how or if that's true but I think it was a few pages back. Are these included in the plans from city hall? It seems like information of this type would have been confirmed by at least SOMEONE on here...unless we're still hoarding information. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It's pretty obvious some people are hoarding information. They're having fun with us Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haru-Kun Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Shyeah. "having fun" is not the term. lol TB, is that new for the '16 season? is there a height restriction? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 To them it is. Just not to the rest of us! Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Gal Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I thought someone said there were blue prints for the footers and the steel ties proved it was an RMC. Not exactly sure how or if that's true but I think it was a few pages back.Are these included in the plans from city hall? It seems like information of this type would have been confirmed by at least SOMEONE on here...unless we're still hoarding information. Gavpenn confirmed pages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Goddard Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Gavpenn is not a credible source, until he gives evidence. While it could be an RMC I'm not convinced until there is hard proof, like an announcement from the park. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 The fry guy at Potato Works isn't enough evidence? Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I blocked gavpen and beast gal so I don't know what they have posted but I thought Gavpen refused to say why he knew what was happening. So if has given evidence I'm sorry I missed it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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